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Iron Chef
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Originally posted by PCC Fred: I'd tend to agree. The F/L relationship was only really the main theme from "Parasites Lost" onwards. The earlier seasons were mainly about Fry learning to adapt to 31st century life.
This pretty much sums it up for me. The early episodes were mainly focused on Fry's attempt to learn about the world around him. I really don't believe it was about someone being given a new chance, becuase that was only mentioned in the first episode. A lot of the middle episodes were based around the friendship between Fry, Bender and Leela but after 'Parasites Lost' the emphasis moved towards Fry and Leela. And that was the main theme up until the final episode. There was also that constant theme of Fry's history. That issue made an appearance in about 5 episodes amd only got rapped up in TWOF. That was a pretty major thread through the show.
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fryfanSpyOrama
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« Reply #10 on: 04-20-2004 11:18 »
« Last Edit on: 04-20-2004 11:18 »
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Hey, I know that Futurama has to do with starting over. I undrstood where Fry ws coming from as far back to SP3K, which is one of the reasons why I like that episode so much.
Matt and David have said that that one of the main focuses of Futurama is the bulding relationship of Fry and Leela. Let my break it down to certain things that prove this. SP3K- Fry and Leela learn that they have a lot in common since they both are people who are alone. E2TSHL- Fry and Leela spend time on the moon and in the Lunar Lander. MTS- Leela seems to be really concerned about Fry. Fry makes her mad, but she still chooses to help him. Fry cries when he thinks Leela is dead. AFTR- Leela is jealous when Fry and Amy pose as a couple. Fry and Leela say it is good to be alone together that they almost kiss. ISTE- Leela tells Fry she loves him as a friend, making Fry say damn Xmas Story- Fry and Leela say it's good being alone together. They almost kiss. PYHOMS- Leela is jealous of Fry when he's dating Amy. Fry dumps Amy after she likes hanging out with him. Leela tells Fry she likes hanging out with him, but he doesn't seem to mind. ABBFT- Fry saves Leela from marrying a jerk. AOI- Leela is implusive and sleeps with Fry, even though it is from the What if machine you have to wonder if that is what Leela wants. WITH- Leela goes along to help Fry and Bender. PL- Fry tells Leela for the first time he loves her. Leela falls in love with Fry, but dumps him when he loses the worms. Fry still has an interest in Leela, since that is image that pops up in the holophoner when Fry plays it. TDTESS- Leela even though she's stupid is the only PE crew member that follows Fry to the Library. TL- Fry and Leela are both going together to the award ceremony, but spend time in the tar pits TCHR- Fry is the only one who says Leela looks prettier as a cyclops. IITM- Fry and Leela kiss twice. TKOS- They get married, divorced and Fry's Love message is destroyed before Leela can she it. LAR- Leela is flattered by the candy that Fry chokes on and they spend Valentine's together with Zoidberg. LH- Fry is concerned about Leela's saddness and helps Leela find her parents ALOHO- Fry wants to pat her on the butt but is too embarrassed. TMLH- They go on a date as kids and watch carefully at the scene where they are grown at the foundtain of aging. Leela has just finished her speech about loving the life he's lived and she and Fry stare at each other with smiles. TWOF- Fry and Leela kiss for no comical reason. Leela is happy to see Fry that night. TS- Leela is guilt ridden and sad when Fry dies. Fry never left her side when she was in the hospital. TFP- Universe 1 Fry and Leela are married. Leela A decides to go out with Fry A to an ape fight. THBB- Leela is the first person Fry saves in the fire. TDHAIP- Leela is seemly impressed by Fry's holophone playing that when Fry is lousy again, she's the only person willing to listen to the lousy playing.
Another note why do you think Matt David spent a long time teasing us with almost having Fry and Leela kiss, but something pervents them for doing so?
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Nasty Pasty
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Yeah, i think that the Fry/Leela relationship should have been played out exactly how it did. Having them get married or become a steady couple would have impared the show's comedy. It was hilarious seeing them married in Time Keeps on Slipping but i think that for them to get together for good, it should wait for the very end of the series, most likely the finale'.
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Gorky
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I agree that one of the focal points has always been the romance between Fry and Leela. It always amazed me that the writers mixed humor with sci-fi, romance, and drama in such a great way. And, if you look at fryfanSpyOrama's list, you see that almost all of the episodes focus with the romance, even if it is in a subtle way.
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Digital Dragon
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I think a large part of Futurama’s focus centres around a simple premise. Take a fantastical sci-fi world with all the archetypes and clichés of the genre, but make the people real, with the same problems humans have had since the dawn of civilisation; crappy jobs, crappy love lives, boredom, incompetent leaders, laziness, etc. That’s what I love about Futurama, it’s neither a utopia or a distopia, it’s the world as it has always been, pretty crappy, but with those occasional moments of heavenly grace.
As to Fry and Leela, it would be wonderful for them to get together, but only in the very final episode/movie, because the romantic humour and tension would be completely dissipated in any subsequent episodes.
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EvilLunch
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I would say that the main comment Futurama was making.. to me.. is that even after a thousand years, after civilization falls and is rebuilt, robots are built and become sentient and rings come in and go out, human nature never changes.
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spacepilot3000
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: I'm sure no-one would agree with me on this, but I personally wouldn't mind seeing Fry and Leela get together for a while but then split up, only to properly get together again later on when they realise what a mistake they made. Because, let's face it, relationships do go through problems and for Fry and Leela to get together and for that to be it would just be, well, boring, so I'd like to see something less straightforward. No. If anything, there relationship shoud be like the one on "The O.C"(if anyone watches that)with Seth and Summer. Sometimes, they are annoyed with one another, but in the end, they work things out.
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Lurrr
Professor
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I don't think the main theme of Futurama is Fry and Leela's relationship. If it were, it would be more like Friends *shudders*
As corny as it sounds I think Futurama is about friendship. Each one of the main characters has some strange quirk (see Fry's speech in The Cyber House Rules) and works for a crummy delivery service and is usually pretty bad at their job, and yet they all stick together no matter what happens. To me, the series says 'you're weird but at least you've got friends'.
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ArcadeAssassin
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Futurama is based on alot of ideas and genes and Fry's and Leela's romace is probaly the main idea in Futurama.
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David A
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: Or here's an idea: how about they don't get together? I think I could live with a Futurama ending that pissed a lot of people off. How about they do get together, and then Fry gets beaten to death by a radioactive monkey? That way, everyone gets what they want. The shippers get to see Fry and Leela together, and the anti-shippers get to see it all end in tragedy. Everybody wins! Originally posted by Lurrr: As corny as it sounds I think Futurama is about friendship. Each one of the main characters has some strange quirk (see Fry's speech in The Cyber House Rules) and works for a crummy delivery service and is usually pretty bad at their job, and yet they all stick together no matter what happens. To me, the series says 'you're weird but at least you've got friends'. I'd have to agree with that. There are just as many episodes about the friendship between Fry and Bender as there are episodes focusing on Fry and Leela. Even some of the Fry and Leela episodes seem to be more about their friendship than about a possible romance. In many ways, the Planet Express crew is like a surrogate family. Most of the characters (Fry, Leela before Leela's Homeworld, Bender, Zoidberg) don't have a real family, but they all have each other.
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fryfanSpyOrama
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« Reply #37 on: 06-22-2004 02:33 »
« Last Edit on: 06-22-2004 02:33 »
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Matt and David have said that the main story of Futurama is the bulding relationship of Fry and Leela. Let my break it down to certain things that prove this.
SP3K- Fry and Leela learn that they have a lot in common since they both a people who are alone. E2TSHL- Fry and Leela spend time on the moon and in the Lunar Lander. MTS- Leela seems to be really concerned about Fry. Fry makes her mad, but she still chooses to help him. Fry cries when he thinks Leela is dead. AFTR- Leela is jealous when Fry and Amy pose as a couple. Fry and Leela say it is good to be alone together that they almost kiss. ISTE- Leela tells Fry she loves him as a friend, making Fry say damn Xmas Story- Fry and Leela say it's good being alone together. They almost kiss. PYHOMS- Leela is jealous of Fry when he's dating Amy. Fry dumps Amy after she likes hanging out with him. Leela tells Fry she likes hanging out with him, but he doesn't seem to mind. ABBFT- Fry saves Leela from marrying a jerk. AOI- Leela is implusive and sleeps with Fry, even though it is from the What if machine you have to wonder if that is what Leela wants. WITH- Leela goes along to help Fry and Bender. PL- Fry tells Leela for the first time he loves her. Leela falls in love with Fry, but dumps him when he loses the worms. Fry still has an interest in Leela, since that is image that pops up in the holophoner when Fry plays it. TDTESS- Leela even though she's stupid is the only PE crew member that follows Fry to the Library. TL- Fry and Leela are both going together to the award ceremony, but spend time in the tar pits TCHR- Fry is the only one who says Leela looks prettier as a cyclops. IITM- Fry and Leela kiss twice. TKOS- They get married, divorced and Fry's Love message is destroyed before Leela can she it. LAR- Leela is flattered by the candy that Fry chokes on and they spend Valentine's together with Zoidberg. Fry just his oxygen to Leela and Leela does mouth to mouth to Fry/ LH- Fry is concerned about Leela's saddness and helps Leela find her parents. Leela says, she flushed some important things down the toilet and Fry's love note is one of them. ALOHO- Fry wants to pat her on the butt but is too embarrassed. TMLH- They go on a date as kids and watch carefully at the scene where they are grown at the foundtain of aging. Leela has just finished her speech about loving the life he's lived and she and Fry stare at each other with smiles. TWOF- Fry and Leela kiss for no comical reason. Leela is happy to see Fry that night. TS- Leela is guilt ridden and sad when Fry dies. Fry never left her side when she was in the hospital. She has a box with random things from Fry. TFP- Universe 1 Fry and Leela are married. Leela A decides to go out with Fry A to an ape fight. THBB- Leela is the first person Fry saves in the fire. TDHAIP- Leela is seemly impressed by Fry's holophone playing that when Fry is lousy again, she's the only person willing to listen to the lousy playing.
All these scenes tell me why Fry dumped Amy unexpectedly and why Matt and David have said that the main issue about Futurama was the building relationship of Fry and Leela.
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Fridge
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In the last scene of the final episode, leela seems to be happy to listen to frys terrible music. However, didn't she need Calculon's ears? Which i believe are missing at this point. I dare say she took them out. Anyway, Zapp is the only man for Leela!!!
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