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Bobby King

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Xmpel, were did you see a Simpsons season 15 episode?


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Gleno

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Spanish Fry....Hilarious from start to finish....I loved everything that happened in this ep....EVERYTHING....Wooooo....!!!

What, you wanted a proper review....? Everything has been said already....

Alright I'll make it a worthwhile bump then....

Benders wooooo's were great

Lurr insulting his wife....(She knew when to SHUT UP....!)

Fry's voice changing when he had no nose

Zoidberg breaking the news to him....(Where your nose is I don't know but on your face it isn't....!) or something....

Aahhhh loved it....

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I set my sails for forever....
Sail the waves of the silent sea
In empty winds under rainbow fire
The forever winds won't let me be
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SlackJawedMoron

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Thss eps just fine. Nat a favourite, byt has some damn good jokes. THe lower horn harvester is the most disturbing thing in the universe (but only if you're a male, I'd imagine). "She also liked to shut up!" Ah, domestics are funny...

The nose! Light of my face!

And in the end they shot you, but you teach us anbout things.

And yes. My postis riddled wuht erroes. But I'm wasted. As I keep saying. So nuts tio the whole damn universe. "I should warn you, I'm a mean drunk!"

EFDIT: Incidently, Gleno, did you finally give in and watch the DVD, cause you know you can't trudst channel seven for shit? If so, good for you. Fught the power! Give me another drink!

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Davey

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I remeber it was the first episode my mum watched of Futurama. Pretty bad impression to let me watch it!


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SlackJawedMoron

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hah! YOur Mum!


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quote:
Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
hah! YOur Mum!

What i'm only young!


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leelaholic

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quote:
Originally posted by Xmpel:
Rated: Simpsons season 14 class episode.

I agree. It was great.


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Mouse On Venus

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I have to admit I'm amazed with the heaps of good reviews this episode got. By Futurama's standards, this has to rank as the Dumbest. Episode. Ever.

For those that haven't heard the Spanish Fry commentary yet, 4ACV17 was originally intended by DXC and co. to be a musical episode featuring Barbados Slim, but after about a week of trying to make it work, they gave up and threw this one together...and it shows. The plot is utter garbage - the Bigfoot stuff, the human horn stuff, the Lrrr & Ndnd fighting stuff and especially the end part where Bigfoot and the Omicronians meet is utter nonsense. Not that there's no room for nonsense in Futurama but when you look at how well the classic episodes of the show are constructed in their storylines and then you look at this crumpled trainwreck of a triviality, it doesn't hold up at all.

But this all fits into the Ron Weiner tradition. Look at his other episodes: The Luck Of The Fryrish, A Pharoah To Remember, Less Than Hero. All these episodes feature poor pacing and a much too mixed bag of gags, both in terms of semantics and quality, and this one is no exception. So whilst you have some top notch gags like the 3D Pipes screensaver parody and The Scary Door (although, out of context, it works less well), mediocre gags are ten-a-penny. Worst of the lot are Bender's lower horn jokes, which would have even been tolerable had Bender not shouted "WOOO!" after all of them like some sort of canned laughter substitute.

It basically just seems like a lot of leftover gags and ideas were shoved into this one just to get them on the air before the show was axed. Hence, the Lrrr & Ndnd story (see Godfellas commentary), The Scary Door (Birdbot deleted scene), Lrrr's "One of these days..." line (Popplers deleted scene) and so on. But all shoehorned into this very loosely themed episode rather than given their own context to flourish in, this episode just becomes a (un)lucky dip of gags.

With all that said, Peter Avanzino typically did a great job with the direction in this episode. The Galactic Bazaar in particular was one heck of a visual feast, and the flying saucer was a sight to behold too. So whilst the writing in this episode was nothing special, at least it was good to look at...well, in some parts anyways.

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Not one of my favourites for some reason. Lrrr was cool as usual, but the whole thing seemed a bit dumb. Hard one to judge, overall.

BTW, does anyone know who did the voice of the park ranger? I've could've sworn I've heard a voice similar to his on the Simpsons.


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Nasty Pasty

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Yeah, he did sound vaguely familiar, but i cant put my finger on it.


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Gleno

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quote:
Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
EFDIT: Incidently, Gleno, did you finally give in and watch the DVD, cause you know you can't trudst channel seven for shit? If so, good for you. Fught the power! Give me another drink!

Yeah I did watch the dvd I thought what the hell....
And I think you've had enough to drink, wait until Edel sees this post....


quote:
Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
It basically just seems like a lot of leftover gags and ideas were shoved into this one just to get them on the air before the show was axed.

Exactly....the show was being cancelled, they wanted to fit in as many ideas as they had before it was too late....as it is there's probably so many things we missed out on....

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Bring my presence out of never
The forever waves of my time to be
I set my sails for forever....
Sail the waves of the silent sea
In empty winds under rainbow fire
The forever winds won't let me be
Wake me up from my forever empire...."


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Mouse On Venus

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quote:
Originally posted by CrazyDoc:
BTW, does anyone know who did the voice of the park ranger? I've could've sworn I've heard a voice similar to his on the Simpsons.

David Herman.


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feralHuman

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Feels like a mish-mash of unrelated scenes. Poor, by Futurama standards.

Cliched penis jokes a little over used in this one. Add a cheesy laugh-track and it could very well pass for a cheap sit-com.

And Lrrr and NdNd getting cutesy and lovey-dovey is frankly, unbearable to watch... Will be my least watched ep. from S4 once the DVDs come.


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I think you a little too hard on it Mouse. there's some good jokes in there its not just penis and domestic jokes, and I cant say I had any problems with the pacing or Bigfoot elements. not a great episode its just a dumb mindless fun episode.
heh You just really dont like Ron Weiner do you.


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Smurfbabe

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I LOVED this episode..probably my favourite from season 4. I find it easy to watch over and over, it's never disapointing. Lrrr and Nndnd are funnier than eva and the big foot movie is a classic. It wasn't that gross either I didn't think, was just funny, 10/10 for me, definately in my top 20eps.


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Mouse On Venus

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I think you a little too hard on it Mouse. there's some good jokes in there its not just penis and domestic jokes...

I never said it was, although you have to admit they do make up a large portion of the end of act 2 and act 3.

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...and I cant say I had any problems with the pacing or Bigfoot elements.

Well, funnily enough, of all Weiner's episodes I think this one actually has the best pacing, although given how weak the plot is there aren't many ways to screw it up in that regard. But the Bigfoot thing was just...daft really. Kind of a bad Simpsons-esque idea. Plus it's, what, the year 3003 and Bigfoot's still a big mystery to everyone?

quote:
not a great episode its just a dumb mindless fun episode.

Yeah, but I'm bored of those. There's enough of that sort of thing on TV at the moment anyways.

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heh You just really dont like Ron Weiner do you.

What gave it away?

No, I'm sure Ron Weiner's a lovely bloke and all, but to me he just seems to be the weakest of the Futurama writers. Had we seen more of Kristin Gore and Mike Rowe, however, he might've had some competition, but who knows.

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Dr. Morberg

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I thought this was a pretty good episode. Not the best, but entertaining. The first half had some really funny gags and great visuals. The second half was pretty funny to. I took Bender's jokes as satire. I thought they were hilarious in thier predictability. To me, they were making fun of the reliance on those kind of jokes in other shows. Though it wasn't great by Futurama standards, it was wholly entertaining. 7.5/10


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I find it really funny that in Spanish Fry, nobody believes that Big Foot is real, but in the episode the Farnsworth Parabox, the newpaper that Leela was reading says on the front page "Big Foot turns 80." I don't get that...

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Nasty Pasty

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quote:
Originally posted by Bender Waffles:
I find it really funny that in Spanish Fry, nobody believes that Big Foot is real, but in the episode the Farnsworth Parabox, the newpaper that Leela was reading says on the front page "Big Foot turns 80." I don't get that...

It might have been a Tabloid. That could explain it.

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Davey

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Cartoons Tend To Have thigns like that, its just a gag that they thought'd be funny.


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quote:
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Had we seen more of Kristin Gore and Mike Rowe, however, he might've had some competition, but who knows.

Not sure about the "competion" thing. Leelaīs homeworld had problems with storyline/axecution,etc. and "Bend Her" was crappy since itīs premise but their scripts were less or more good.

Anyway, "Spanish Fry" was indeed bad. along with "Bend Her" and "Obsoletely Faboulous" it felt terribly uninspired and along with "KGKUAN" and "300 BB" itīs one of biggest lowlight of season


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Mouse On Venus

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhodan:
Not sure about the "competion" thing. Leelaīs homeworld had problems with storyline/axecution,etc. and "Bend Her" was crappy since itīs premise but their scripts were less or more good.

Actually, I've said this before somewhere, but for me "Leela's Homeworld" is one of those rare episodes where nearly all the jokes that were cut from the episode seemed better than the ones that were left in. So at one point it was a good script.


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quote:
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I took Bender's jokes as satire. I thought they were hilarious in thier predictability. To me, they were making fun of the reliance on those kind of jokes in other shows.

You've gotta admit though that labelling cliché jokes as satire is a pretty cheap way of justifying them.


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Don't double post!

Well, now that I'm done flaming, I found Spanish Fry to be an okay episode. Some of the jokes were indeed uninspired and predictable, but I still laughed.


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Mouse On Venus

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Oh, okay Ek. So rather than bump this topic so that people actually see my newest point, I should instead edit the last post I made, which was THIRTEEN DAYS AGO, and leave it so that no-one notices. You're a freakin' genius you idiot!


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leelaholic

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quote:
Originally posted by Ekarderif:
Don't double post!

Well, now that I'm done flaming...


[Sarcasm] Yeah, you really dissed him. [/Sarcasm]

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Mouse On Venus

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Gah, he did, didn't he? I mean, who does he think he is, being too ignorant for dates? I bet he's like that in real life too.


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leelaholic

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Yeah, he should be nice to you pixies. Hee hee, pixies.

"Oh, what a lovely quishe!
I drive a pink Miata!"

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I hate pink pixies! Miatas are crap! Kill all humans!


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You're just bitter...


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Nasty Pasty

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quote:
Originally posted by boxie:
You're just bitter...

na he just has some emotional problems from childhood he needs to work out.

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Spanish fry was sooooooo funny i loved all of benders little "whoooooooooo"s


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quote:
Originally posted by Wuvums:
Spanish fry was sooooooo funny i loved all of benders little "whoooooooooo"s

I have to say, the "wooos" were definitely the highlite of the episode and Bender's comments were absolutely hilarious.

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DrJohnZ

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My fav. part was when Fry had to wear the glasses with the nose!

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Mouse On Venus

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And I have to say they were lowest common denominator fodder from a show that is usually better than that. So there.


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I fond something crazily enjoyable in it in spite of that. and there is a great line something to the effect of
Lrrr: So let me get this straight if we all buy enough candy bars you'll all get to go to some camp.
Bender:Yep thats exactly the line we used to get past your guards.

but yeah the Whooos just seemed to be there to admit to the fact that there just doing a lot of penis jokes.
S4 DVD commentary spoiler
Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read.

(I think Cohen pretty much admits as much in the commentary, although its hard to tell what with the incessant hooting and hollering and suchlike in the background)


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not a great episode its just a dumb mindless fun episode.
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Yeah, but I'm bored of those. There's enough of that sort of thing on TV at the moment anyways.


Yeh they are called Reality shows.

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