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Topic: Thoughts on [4ACV05] - A Taste of Freedom
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Kryten
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posted 12-29-2002 19:46 |
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Don't forget Free Waterfall III in the fifth issue of the comic!
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
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Since: Apr 2002
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posted 12-30-2002 06:52 |
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Originally posted by Teral:
Absolutely LOVED the scene with the Klingon Embassy.
I loved that one too. It looked like a Barbie-house.  ------------------
It is better to have half a proverb, than
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blahness
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posted 12-30-2002 13:15 |
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bender also seems to still want nachos too hehe
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Chump
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posted 12-30-2002 13:51 |
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I got bored of Old Man Waterfall. The "I'm falling apart" jokes got boring, except for:
OMW: ...used my intestines to raise a flag made of my own skin...
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Gocad
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posted 12-31-2002 23:15 |
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Nice episode, did anybody notice that somebody, i am not sure if it was the waterfall guy, says at the end of the credits (thin ice, i know!) "freedom"?Also, Zoidberg dancing on the table was a great sight! [This message has been edited by Gocad (edited 01-01-2003).]
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Ben
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posted 01-01-2003 00:47 |
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Took me a week and a half to get the damn thing and it wasn't really worth it. I love Zoidberg as comic relief, but he begins to sound a bit lame when he's given heaps of dialogue. I agree with what was said earlier about the episode seeming a bit off, it was kind of forced, like the newer Simpsons eps. Not a great episode, in my opinion.
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Bad Mojo
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posted 01-01-2003 11:42 |
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I agree. It wasn't as good as the other ones this season. 3/5------------------
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Chump
Urban Legend
Since: Jun 2001
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posted 01-01-2003 20:41 |
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Originally posted by Gocad:
Nice episode, did anybody notice that somebody, i am not sure if it was the waterfall guy, says at the end of the credits (thin ice, i know!) "freedom"?Also, Zoidberg dancing on the table was a great sight!
I heard it. It was Bender.
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Chump
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posted 01-03-2003 13:27 |
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In the scene where theres the rally against Zoidberg, the shots of the earth flag feature no picture of earth on them... or maybe its just my version?
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Mitsui
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posted 01-03-2003 13:34 |
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Well, I thought this episode was another average one. Interesting enough storyline, but not as full of jokes as I like  .3/5
Oh yeah - also, did anyone notice a guy that looked like the "legalisation of hemp" person in the crowd when that person was singing. [This message has been edited by Mitsui (edited 01-03-2003).]
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Hawk
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posted 01-03-2003 13:58 |
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It was ok, but now one of the best. I liked that it was something about Zoidberg. It wasn't so funny either...... I don't know what to give it.......
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masTers
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Since: Oct 2002
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posted 01-07-2003 20:40 |
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Good to see old Zapp again! The scene with Morbo (excuse spelling) lifting his shirt was hell funny, makes you think.
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HDC
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posted 01-07-2003 21:24 |
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The scene with Morbo (excuse spelling) lifting his shirt was hell funny
Pretty stupid scene, at my taste...
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Bendo
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posted 01-08-2003 11:40 |
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After veiwing this episode again I am beginning to like it even more. The satire in it was great. Old Man Waterfall is/was a great character - much in line with all the previous Waterfall characters in pointing out our conflicting views on freedoms and how we are not really free to persue our own interests. This was shown in both the courtroom scene as well as when he gets crushed by the Oppression Palace - people cheered that he was for freedom but were against him actually practicing it in the forms of poligamy, homosexuality and religion. Great stuff and shows a depth far deeper than him wanting to defend the rights of Zoidbert to eat a flag or limbs falling off.Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that there are 5 Waterfall characters and I think there is another one that people forget. Along with the ones mentioned previously (Popplers, Ice-Catraz, Freedom and Futurama Comics 5) there was also another Waterfall character in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz. After Free Waterfall, Sr., is eaten by the penguins another character comes on and says 'I'll avenge you Pa!' Judging by that I would assume that he is his son and therefore has the Waterfall surname. So that would make a total of 6 Waterfall characters so far.
RM
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Gocad
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posted 01-08-2003 12:12 |
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I think Free Waterfall, Sr. Pa was Old Man Waterfall in Ice-Catraz, of course you could only from a distance, but it looked like him.On a different matter, this episode wasn't shorter than previous episodes. [This message has been edited by Gocad (edited 01-08-2003).]
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MelBee
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posted 01-09-2003 06:37 |
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Well, I found this episode pretty enjoyable, fnny in places, although not outstanding.At least it wasn't heart-wrenchingly heart-wrenchy, like Jurassic Bark...
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Jesus
Delivery Boy
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posted 01-10-2003 11:25 |
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Waterfall?
What are you talking about, i love Zoidberg so i give it 4/5... Thatīs all folks
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Impossible
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posted 01-10-2003 14:48 |
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I actually saw this episode today in school. Some people had downloaded it using Broadband. I liked it, possibly because it was a new-er episode
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Venus
Urban Legend
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posted 01-10-2003 15:12 |
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futurama during class? wow....thats so cool.
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SQFreak
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posted 01-11-2003 15:56 |
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Originally posted by masTers:
Morbo (excuse spelling)
Isn't that correct spelling? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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yokurt
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Since: Feb 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 08:40 |
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yes, it is correct, but what is Morbo hiding under his shirt?
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SQFreak
Professor
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posted 01-12-2003 14:38 |
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Probably...hmm...maybe he's clear. Kinda like Kif's "camoflage reflex". Except you can see inside his body. Eew.
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Sarge
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posted 01-12-2003 20:33 |
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That gag used to have the sound effect of meat squishing but they cut it out.  It was much more gruesome that way. Bad editing call.
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SQFreak
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posted 01-12-2003 21:58 |
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Which, the camoflage reflex or Morbo showing his innards?
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FishyJoe
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posted 01-13-2003 00:32 |
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Hey, I am in a posting mood, and I forgot to review this episode.I thought it was disappointing. Back when That's Lobstertainment aired, everyone started saying "Zoidberg's only good as a secondary character", "all Zoidberg episodes suck", etc. I defended him, saying that just because the one episode misfired, doesn't mean that the character is worthless. I can see a well-written Zoidberg centered episode being great. But this is just another Lobstertainment. Harold Zoid was boring, and now we see that all of Zoidberg's species are boring. Hardcore nudity is good, and there were some funny jokes here and there, but the episode practically put me to sleep. In fact, I'm sleeping now just thinking about it. I hope this isn't the standard for the season.
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Lee Roberts
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Since: Jan 2003
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posted 03-14-2003 13:47 |
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Uk fans, this is on 23/3/03 on Sky One
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Melllvar
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posted 03-19-2003 08:35 |
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Now that I've seen this one, I can say that I actually quite liked it. The better of the Zoidberg-centric episodes, I thought.I liked Zapp's Freedom Day parade exchange with Linda and Linda's subsequent exchange with Morbo, that as well as the opening. Very good, not excellent.
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Lee Roberts
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posted 03-21-2003 15:28 |
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I can't wait to see this episode, it shows this Sunday on Sky One at 7:00pm!
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dazman
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Since: Mar 2003
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posted 03-21-2003 16:16 |
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i think this episode will rock and p.s. leela is hooooooooooot
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Lee Roberts
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posted 03-21-2003 16:18 |
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This is my dude, Dazza Man! Yeah. On eof my best buds!
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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posted 03-21-2003 16:45 |
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Originally posted by me (and mArc in every review thread):
Keep spam and off-topic chit-chat to a minimum
Read and learn! [This message has been edited by Helpy McHelphelp Teral (edited 03-21-2003).]
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payndz
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posted 03-23-2003 14:50 |
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Arooo. We're certainly getting plenty of Nixon this 'season'. Speaking of which, in (I think) three weeks, the UK catches up with the US. Somehow I doubt that Sky will be allowed to show new episodes before Fox.As for the episode: as a one-time American Studies student concentrating on the politics side of things, the whole flag-eating section was a nicely barbed bit of satire against the kind of hard conservatives who genuinely believe that sullying a *bit of patterned cloth* is a crime worthy of imprisonment or worse, and I never expected the Decapodians to actually *win* the war and conquer Earth! Great CGI effects, as well. But a lot of the jokes were of the kind that made me go "Ha, that was clever" rather than actually laugh. And Sarge and others above are right - there should have been more naked hot tub action. 
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PCC Fred
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posted 03-23-2003 15:40 |
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Booooooooooooring!  There were three good moments in the episode: Leela topless, the exchange between Linda and Morbo, and Zapp giving away the planetary defence codes. Other than that it was 21 minutes of tedium. ------------------
"I can't imagine what kind of problem Senna has. I imagine it must be some sort of grip problem."
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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posted 03-23-2003 16:14 |
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"You can crush me, but you can't crush my spirit! ... AHHH; my spirit!""Ambassador Moiven, you killed my lawyer"
"You're welcome." The head of ACLU singing hate-songs. There were some good jokes in there. And some great eye candy.
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Zed 85
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posted 03-23-2003 17:06 |
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Some good minutes, but it definitely tailed off at the end.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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posted 03-23-2003 17:27 |
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I thought it was a pretty solid ep, but I felt it tailed off more around the middle just after the parade. But for me, I felt it redeemed itself when Zoidberg's race invaded Earth, awesome CGI, and some cool plots and twists too 
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Rage Dump
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Since: May 2003
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posted 09-30-2003 09:48 |
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*Bumped for aussies*
Bender + Cowcatcher = ClassicAnyone else pissed off about thier continual cutting off the end?
Also it is played faster than normal which i really don't like.... Anyway, good episode, regardless of Seven's utter shitness.
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alexvilagosh
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Since: Feb 2003
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posted 09-30-2003 09:52 |
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It's played faster???I love the start of this episode
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Rage Dump
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Since: May 2003
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posted 09-30-2003 09:55 |
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Im pretty sure it is played faster... not 100% though.
EDIT : Yeah, im pretty sure that the theme at the end credits was faster...Also "Hugh-Man" = Classic [This message has been edited by Rage Dump (edited 09-30-2003).]
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Gleno
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Since: Jul 2003
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posted 09-30-2003 12:25 |
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My bloody antennae was not co-operating tonight so parts of the ep got cut out as I was fiddling with it, but I got most of it....It was ok not laugh out loud but still watchable....I agree with others who say Zoidberg is better as a secondary character (WMIBACIL being the exception) even his constant "woop woop woop" while running away is annoying in my opinion)
Having said that, it was good to see the Decapodians (sp) again, and the 3D effects near the end were great....
Might be more enjoyable on dvd without the crap reception....Come on Channel 7, 4 weeks until The Why of Fry, and then The Sting in all their glory.... And Alex, I saw the guy who is your avy in this ep....in the crowd near the start....  On second viewing, it was funnier, and here are the jokes I liked.... Bender saying he was hating Zoidberg before it was cool Fry getting a "headache with pictures" (idea) and the Decapodian leader saying "meh"...classic.... [This message has been edited by Gleno (edited 10-01-2003).]
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