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ooy

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« on: 03-26-2004 04:42 »
« Last Edit on: 03-26-2004 04:42 »

 http://www.freewebs.com/ooyofpeel/index.htm
it hasnt got alot of content, but if you wanna submit anything, i'll be happy to put it up,mate!
Rage Dump

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #1 on: 03-26-2004 06:16 »
« Last Edit on: 03-26-2004 06:16 »

Not a bad setup, nice and simple... but please piss that bloody farnsworth/fry/whatever else background off, it looks ugly and makes the writing very hard to see. If you want a background like that (The small one of fry's head for example) fade it until it's almost white, so the pictures are barely visible, then make the writing the opposite colour.

*Start Graphic Program talk*

My PSP is refusing to run on my new OS, so i can't show you what i mean, but if you can use a decent graphics program, or you can get someone to do it for you, just make a new layer on the fry image, make it completely white, and set that layer at about 70% transparency.

*End Graphic Program talk*

Or just set the background a solid colour... either way...

Other than that, you need more content, and some originality, but after 10 posts in here you will have been told that 14 times, so i'll leave it at that.
SixByNine
Starship Captain
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« Reply #2 on: 03-26-2004 07:18 »

AAAAAAAAArrrrrrggghhhh!

Damn that background is annoying. Take a look at other sites and see which ones you like. Then have a go at making a site in that style. I'll bet you none have brightly coloured high contrast tiled backgrounds  wink

Other than that, tables are bad, as is pointless javascript.

Also, what kind of sumbissions are you looking for? (e.g. origanal art, scans, fanart...) I can send you a small amount of stuff to help you off if you like.
Birdbot

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« Reply #3 on: 03-26-2004 07:54 »

You must change the background!!

I would go for solid colour, but you can use these if you really want to:



Besides for that, you should decide what your website will focus on, and get some content on. Good luck with it all  smile
Rage Dump

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #4 on: 03-26-2004 08:01 »
« Last Edit on: 03-26-2004 08:01 »

Probably still too prominant i reckon, but that's the idea.

Oh, and that Farnsworth one won't work at all, don't use it. Finally only pick one of those faded ones and use it for all pages...

Or make it easy on yourself, and just use a solid colour.  tongue
mic

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« Reply #5 on: 03-26-2004 08:31 »
« Last Edit on: 03-26-2004 08:31 »

SixByNine kindly pointed me in the direction of your site.  I think he wanted me to do something.  I'm sorry to ever other new site webmaster out there that I've flammed, you're all much better than this.  To begin, the semi-professional evaluation from the bastard website coder from hell [me]!

Learn HTML 4.01, and CSS, and learn them properly (don't use FrontPage, use a text editor).  It's a very easy to learn document formatting language.  HTMLHelp.com has a HTML 4 Reference.  It's quite obvious you ripped your design from elsewhere, and their design (by coding, the look ain't too bad) really sucks!  And tiling a non-tiling background looks very ugly.

Your date display has the Y2K bug, it's showing as 'March 26, Friday, 19104'.  Browsers aren't supposed to execute code inside script tags that specify an external script in the src value, so you should remove that code.  It looks like a French and broken version of the existing script.  It's traditional that you enclose the script in '<!--' and '// -->' to prevent old browsers from rendering it (if you include scripts in your page, you don't need it if you're referncng something externally.  But most ones are smart enough.  That date shower is also unnessescary, I know what date it is by my computer's clock, I have a clock applet.

Unless your background is grey, or something with a 50% 'Value', you shouldn't have white links with black text.  Otherwise they are hard to read.

It's generally a bad idea to have style attributes set IN the tag, use the 'id' or 'class' attribute (class is used for most things) and put them in your CSS.  Tables are also evil.  Put all your layout and colour information in CSS.  I'll shutup if you do    smile

You should probably put the link to PEEL outside your main site navigation, or it implies you run PEEL.  You should pop it in a separate links section after your site navigation, and probably even use a 88x31px button for PEEL.  I don't know where one is off hand though, but I'm sure someone will hook you up with one in a later post.

Always set the doctype!!!  And the character set (as it is not in the HTTP headers)  And make sure it validates correctly.  73 errors ain't good.

   
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23:29 < SixByNine> oh, mic... coment on the fact that ooy's site looks shit in lynx ;p

Yeah, your site looks shit in lynx.  Not as bad in links though.  At least I can actually read the text, unlike in firefox where I see the background (and thus have trouble reading the text.

 
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00:08 < SixByNine> damn, you quoted me
00:08 < mic> :P
00:08 < SixByNine> you bastard
00:08 < mic> muhahaha :P
00:08 < SixByNine> now it looks like I am an arse

About that....:P

I think I'm done    smile

Would you like to see my warez collection?
ooy

Professor
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« Reply #6 on: 03-27-2004 04:16 »
« Last Edit on: 03-28-2004 00:00 »

ok, i'm gonna ditch this site and make another one

here it is, my new website!
mic

Bending Unit
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« Reply #7 on: 04-02-2004 23:46 »
« Last Edit on: 04-02-2004 23:46 »

Okay, you should have a chat to JavieR about 'borrowing' his artwork.  Though I could be wrong.

Warning, long and IMO important ranting ahead. Approch with caution, and I'm not bashing you... and I'm a linux zealot.  smile

I read in another thread you were planning to host your own site on your DSL link (I'm posting it here as this thread is more appropriate).  This is something I do too (though it [my site] sucks, low traffic, and I still haven't finished rebuilding some of the content after it all died a couple of weeks ago), so heres a couple of helpers:

  • dyndns.dk.  You'll need a dynamic DNS service like this to allow you to have an address that follows you everywhere, as you most probably have a dynamic ip, even if it is like mine and changes about once a week.  You should also check telstra's policies as to wether they let you run servers.  If not, the Node does.  And they're a great ISP   big grin
  • You'll need a static IP if you plan to get a .com, .net, .org, etc.  Which costs lots-a money, as you'll have to goto the business plan.
  • I'd advise against putting your web server on your desktop box.  Go and pick up a Pentium or Pentium II, doesn't have to be terribly fancy, and host your site from there.  You'll have to leave that box on all the time, so if it's in your bedroom, you'll need to be able to sleep while there are computer fans whirring.  I have about 2 or 3 boxes up at any one time in my bedroom, I'm used to it, and in fact I have trouble sleeping without the fans, and it's weird not hearing them in my bedroom.
  • Get an ethernet DSL router, if you haven't already, and have a local area network.  Make sure it has its own inbuilt firewall, and allows you to redirect requests to your web site requests to port 80 on your webserver box.
  • Don't run PWS (Personal Web Server) or IIS (Internet Information Server).  Theres tonnes of worms going around that'll comprimise your server box very quickly, and you'll probably not notice it.  Apache, the most widely used web server on Earth has a version that'll run on Windows.  And don't forget to get php.  Once you've used that you'll never turn back.
  • Though you should go and get something like Debian GNU/Linux - its a really good Linux distro, and it'll run on a pentium box. What the **** I'm talking about.

    If you wanna talk more about it, come to #futuramachat (click the Chatroom link down the bottom), msn: msn@mic.kyed.com, or jabber: micolous@jabber.org.

Would you like to see my warez collection?
DELTAWOLF

Bending Unit
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« Reply #8 on: 04-03-2004 00:08 »

Nice theme ooy!
ooy

Professor
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« Reply #9 on: 04-05-2004 02:13 »

thanks mate!
fry2006

Starship Captain
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« Reply #10 on: 04-05-2004 13:23 »

It's nice, but there's not enough stuff. If you want, I could contribute a whole series of Futurama fanfics(about four) when I'm finished with them.

Overall-ness: Good... but the CF explanation didn't really explain anything.

Final Verdict: 9.5/10
ooy

Professor
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« Reply #11 on: 04-05-2004 18:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-09-2004 00:00 »

i know, i got the cf explaination from the actual site itself. and about those fanfics. gimmie gimmie gimme! and sixbynine, that small package of stuff to get started sounds good.

edit:some of my stuff i draw is on!
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am i the only PEELer who loves costanza falcon..still?
ooy

Professor
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« Reply #12 on: 04-13-2004 00:10 »
« Last Edit on: 04-13-2004 00:10 »

::bumps:: could PEEL please link to my site? as i have unto you?
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