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jwso

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« on: 05-26-2000 15:09 »

There's been alot of contrevercy about all the Futurama link sites, and if we should ditch some, or something, so you can discuss about them here. Personaly, when i decided to join the Futurama Oscars (yeah, i work there now) i was thinking of joining Planet Roadmap, since it's the biggest link site around. But i never got a reply and i think that the people working at the Oscars are really determined to build it into a good site, which WILL DEFINATELY be better than Planet Roadmap big grin
Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #1 on: 05-26-2000 19:48 »

I don't see any reason why we should "ditch" some link sites, just because there's too many.  If there are a bunch of them that are unoriginal, boring, etc, then I can see why you'd want to get rid of them.  But GIVE SITES A CHANCE!!!

Planet Futurama, and Roadmap to the Futurama, (which merged to form Planet Roadmap), took a while to get going as well.  I ran Planet Futurama, and for about five months it was what you would now consider a "crappy" site.  After a while it became more and more popular, and so did Roadmap to the Futurama.

When Jason and I merged the 2 sites, it became one of the only links sites that were maintained, and is now fairly popular, and by far the most popular links site.  What am I getting at?  To build a good links site, you must go through a period of being considered a crappy site before it will become popular

What I'm saying is, if you want to get rid of all the "crappy" or "extra" links sites, don't expect there to be any more good links sites.

And you said:

 
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the people working at the Oscars are really determined to build it into a good site, which WILL DEFINATELY be better than Planet Roadmap

I have nothing against Futurama Oscars whatsoever.  But be prepared:  to build a really good links site will take LOTS OF TIME, DEDICATION AND EFFORT.  And don't expect your site to be really popular at first.  Planet Roadmap gets around 300 hits a day, but  thats after about 13 months since it started.

But, if you are truly dedicated, I hope to see Futurama Oscars evolve into an excellent links site as well.



Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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  futuramaguy@hotmail.com
RideTheWalrus

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« Reply #2 on: 05-26-2000 20:25 »

 exactly aaron. every site has had a crappy version of it. AYNIF originally wasn't great, but with a lot of time and patience, it became brilliant. I totally agree with what aaron just said - if you want a good site, make sure you have spare time.

later -
kazeri
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« Reply #3 on: 05-27-2000 02:45 »

That's a weird " i" character, please don't use them it looks like a L-little round cirle-nk and no i, in my default encoding, changing is annoying.

Anytime I get an original idea, it's not original it seems. I had quite a few very original ideas for new futrama/simpsons sites but since I already had two i ditched them. Adding framegrabs (as in futurama oscars) does not make a site original at all, I've got 60 hermes framegrabs on my hard drive which I could very easily plop into my site but it's just confusing and off the point.
slimmyCGEF

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« Reply #4 on: 05-27-2000 05:53 »

hehe, who talks about aynif nowadays... well it was a great website, but the merged form 'cgef' is better
r_hawks

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« Reply #5 on: 05-28-2000 03:08 »

UPDATE  UPDATE  UPDATE     
That's the biggest problem with links sites.  They don't keep their information updated.  If you're going to have a popular site (Futurama Oscars is already popular with me) you have to make sure you take the time to keep everything up to date. And that means EVERYWHERE not just on the main page.
   
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« Reply #6 on: 05-28-2000 03:35 »

The only true linksite is the futurama top 50

Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #7 on: 05-28-2000 14:18 »

 
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Originally posted by r_hawks:
That's the biggest problem with links sites.  They don't keep their information updated.

Now, I'll have to disagree with you there.  While some links sites don't keep their stuff updated, others do.  Look at Planet Roadmap, for example.  Jason Barnabé, the webmaster, links to, and categorizes, virtually every Futurama site in existance.  There's hundreds of them.  And about every 2 months he re-checks every single site, and makes the neccesary changes to their ranking, the list of what they keep updated/not updated, their categories, etc.

And every other section at Planet Roadmap is kept updated as well:

1) All Links are updated
2) Contest is updated
3) ICQ List, Futurama Internet Chronology, Webmasters Around the World, Webmaster Interviews, Spotlight, Viewer Feedback, & FAQ are all updated

That leaves the following sections not-updated: Webmaster Tips, About the Webmasters, that is all.  And those sections don't need updating.

What am I saying?  Not all links sites update all their sections.  But some do.


Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #8 on: 05-28-2000 14:20 »

Oh - Jack - what exactly do you mean that the Top 50 is the only "true" links site???


Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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  futuramaguy@hotmail.com
jbird3000

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« Reply #9 on: 05-28-2000 14:33 »

 
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Originally posted by jwso:
Personaly, when i decided to join the Futurama Oscars (yeah, i work there now) i was thinking of joining Planet Roadmap, since it's the biggest link site around. But i never got a reply and i think that the people working at the Oscars are really determined to build it into a good site, which WILL DEFINATELY be better than Planet Roadmap  big grin

I don't think you realize how much work Planet Roadmap is. It took over a year to get where it is now. If you don't have a way to keep track of the sites, you'll have wayyyy too much work. I, for example, use MS Access to keep track of sites. If I didn't, there'd be too much work. And to be frank, what I saw of Futurama Oscars was just a rip-off of PR. The categories were essentially the same (ranking categories: the same... content categories: the same.... international categories: the same...). Interviews.... "site of the week"-type things. If just seemed like a watered-down version of PR. My advice: be different.
Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #10 on: 05-28-2000 17:01 »

Hey Jason!  I couldn't have said it better myself.  It is an incredible amount of work to maintain a good links site and still keep it original and interesting (no thanks to me in the last 3 months)

Anyway, I hope that Futurama Oscars will open some new, original sections, and not simply copy many of the sections at PR.  From what I have seen, most of their sections are rip offs, so I really hope they have something original too.

And if you really are going to make Futurama Oscars a better site than PR, be prepared to work on it several hours a week for over a year, and open new, creative sections.

Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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HyperLad
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« Reply #11 on: 05-29-2000 13:27 »

HEY HEY HEY
STOP THIS
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE ALL THIS???
U GUYZ ARE NOT FAIR, HOW COME PEOPLE FROM EUROPE ARE WAY KINDER THEN PEOPLE FROM AMERICA. U GUYZ SUCK.

kind regards,
david mcgee

Kind Regards,
David McGee
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Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #12 on: 05-29-2000 18:22 »

I think there is a bit of confusion here.  I don't have anything against the Futurama Oscars, but I am merely stating a fact: Based on what I have seen of the Oscars (as of May 29 (I got a "sneak peak")), some of the sections appear to be rip offs from another links site.

I'm not saying I don't like the Oscars, it looks like a promising site.  I am just saying that when sites take ideas from other sites, it is less original.  Not all of the Futurama Oscars is a rip off, there are sections that are original and creative.

Sorry for the frustration I showed towards the Oscars - I fully support the Oscars, and hope to see the site do well and become a great links site.

[This message has been edited by Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G (edited May 29, 2000).]
JasonCGEF

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« Reply #13 on: 05-29-2000 18:47 »

I'm from America...I'm not nice???? You really shouldn't stereotype things like niceness. Before I discovered the internet, I got the impression that German people weren't nice (I guess that's what all Americans assume because all they think about is Nazis and Hitler, etc..) But I talk to Germans all the time and they are VERY nice. So don't be so stereotypical =)

Jason Peavey
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jbird3000

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« Reply #14 on: 05-29-2000 19:09 »

 
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Originally posted by HyperLad:
HEY HEY HEY
STOP THIS
WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE ALL THIS???
U GUYZ ARE NOT FAIR, HOW COME PEOPLE FROM EUROPE ARE WAY KINDER THEN PEOPLE FROM AMERICA. U GUYZ SUCK.

kind regards,
david mcgee




Last time I checked, me and Aaron weren't from America. It's Canada.

Get some original stuff and prove yourself to be a reliable source, and of course I'll give your site a good rating. You, Elite (which is closing, i hear), and top 50 would all be in Good if you just were more reliable. All 3 of those sites have been closed in recent memory.
jwso

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« Reply #15 on: 05-29-2000 22:50 »

i think my frien David was meaning this... "alot people from from North America aren't as nice towards people from Europe, but instead they just feel like blaming everything on us, casue we live so far away, and there's nothing we can do about it!!! riiight???" anywayz, i completely agree.
(note: Jason (cgef), Josh (cgef)´, and Aaron kick) this shows that there are decent people in North America afterall.
Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #16 on: 05-30-2000 17:05 »

I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with where you live.  I didn't even know that "Hyperlad" was from Ireland till after I posted all these messages.

And it's not like I can do anything about it if someone else from Canada was saying stuff about me.  Where you live has nothing to do with it.

Anyway, I have nothing against any of the webmasters here, no matter where they live.  Unless it's the States. (haha, just kidding.  every webmaster I've met from the States is cool!)

Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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  futuramaguy@hotmail.com
HyperLad
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« Reply #17 on: 05-31-2000 12:22 »

america... canada... whats the difference... lo... no offence to americans or canadians but in europe, we dont really notice much of a difference and dont really give a f**k

kind regards,
david mcgee

Kind Regards,
David McGee
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AOLIM mcgoodave
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jbird3000

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« Reply #18 on: 05-31-2000 18:24 »

 
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Originally posted by HyperLad:
america... canada... whats the difference... lo... no offence to americans or canadians but in europe, we dont really notice much of a difference and dont really give a f**k

kind regards,
david mcgee



And you wonder why some don't like you.

[This message has been edited by jbird3000 (edited May 31, 2000).]
Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #19 on: 05-31-2000 19:17 »

There are many differences between Americans and Canadians.  That'd be like me saying there's no difference between Belgians and Germans, or Irish and English.  And keep in mind, Canada and the United States are like 3 times the size of all of Europe, so there are definitely differences.

And have you been to North America?  I'm assuming no, so how can you say Europeans are nicer than North Americans?  I've been to Europe, and I find that Europeans are no nicer (nor no ruder) than North Americans.

That's a good way to get accepted into the Futurama community - saying you dont give a f**k about 90% of webmasters.

Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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  futuramaguy@hotmail.com
jwso

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« Reply #20 on: 06-01-2000 00:30 »

i have lived in Canada for 4 years, and i definately noticed that people 'ver here are much nicer (europe smile
ChrisPierce
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« Reply #21 on: 06-01-2000 05:49 »

OKAY, OKAY

This topic has gotten way off the topic and turned into a racial argument. You cant just go round saying that people from Amereica (or Canada) are not as nice as people from europe and vice versa. I talk to Aaron on ICQ near enough every day and he is one of the kindest webmasters there is. So lets just end these gay arguments and for god's sake grow up and lets start talking about some REAL topics

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jwso

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« Reply #22 on: 06-01-2000 05:59 »

your completely right, but we have to defend national pride (or continental)  smile
cruncha-muncha
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« Reply #23 on: 06-01-2000 10:57 »

Chris,that was a very kind and nice post!

We in this cool world must be kind to each
other. We must not be enemies!
 

jbird3000

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« Reply #24 on: 06-01-2000 22:42 »

 
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Originally posted by ChrisPierce:
OKAY, OKAY

So lets just end these gay arguments and for god's sake grow up and lets start talking about some REAL topics


Gay???

kidding....
Cherrn

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« Reply #25 on: 06-02-2000 14:14 »

Damn! I gotta start reading this forum.
Jwso! I wanna join in on our shameless self promotion!
Futurama Uncovered
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« Reply #26 on: 06-15-2000 05:23 »

Strange how these topics drift so far away from the point...
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