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bart182

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« on: 04-14-2003 19:01 »

just got this today...
Motion Picture Association
Worldwide Internet Enforcement
15503 Ventura Boulevard
Encino, California  91436
USA

Phone: (818) 728 - 8127
Email: MPAA@copyright.org <mailto:MPAA@copyright.org>

Monday, April 14, 2003

Name: slurmman@hotmail.com
Email: slurmman@hotmail.com
ISP: slurmman@hotmail.com

Via Fax/Email


RE:  Unauthorized Distribution of Copyrighted Motion Pictures
MPA Case Name: http://slurmman.tripod.com/
Reference #: 1105138

Date of Infringement: 2003-04-11 16:58:40 GMT

Dear slurmman@hotmail.com:

The Motion Picture Association (MPA) represents the following motion picture
production and distribution companies:

Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
Disney Enterprises, Inc.
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc.
Paramount Pictures Corporation
TriStar Pictures, Inc.
Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
United Artists Pictures, Inc.
United Artists Corporation
Universal City Studios, LLLP
Warner Bros., a Division of Time Warner Entertainment Company, L.P.

We have received information that you are unlawfully offering product at;
 http://slurmman.tripod.com/vcds.shtml

We have notified your ISP of the unlawful nature of this web site and have asked
for its immediate removal.

Please contact us at the above listed address or by replying to this email if
you should have any questions.  Kindly include the above noted Reference # in
the subject line of all email correspondence.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Respectfully,

Thomas Temple
Director
Worldwide Internet Enforcement


Here's my reply email:

Hello,

I think you need to do some more research on the reasons you send C&D letters to, cause those VCDs are 100% legal, and marketed by Fox themselves. I see no reason at all as to why I need to take that page down, considering many Futurama fans don't have DVD players, and these VDCs are legal.  If you think these are pirated VCDs, that show up on websites like ebay.com, you're incorrect.  These are fully authorized VCDs by 20th Century Fox, not bootlegs.

By the way, aren't you suppose to give me time to take down the "unlawful" content before you contact my ISP?

Also, I don't offer these products to anyone, I don't sell one item that is listed on my website, I mearly link to websites that do sell this material.  So shouldn't you be sending THEM C&D letters instead?

take care, and looking forward to a reply,
~Jon


What the fuck is Fox on?  I tried calling their number, since it's in my area code, but they wanted me to leave my name and phone number... I'd rather not give Fox that.

(ps, expect a collectorama update very soon, especially with an announcement on how stupid fox is)

[Jon] - [my winamp statistics]
[CGEF - gotfuturama.com]
[Futurama Collectorama! - enjoyslurm.com]

Margarita

Space Pope
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« Reply #1 on: 04-14-2003 19:13 »
« Last Edit on: 04-14-2003 19:13 »

!!!!!!!!!!
that sucks.
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #2 on: 04-14-2003 19:22 »
« Last Edit on: 04-14-2003 19:22 »

Damn, what weed does FOX put into that pibe of theirs?

Good reply. Go Jon.
Grim

Professor
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« Reply #3 on: 04-14-2003 19:38 »

My definition for stupidity is now: FOX
Allen

Professor
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« Reply #4 on: 04-14-2003 19:48 »

Anyone remember when Fox was a no-name station that gave shows a chance? We need more no-name stations! wink Sorry to hear about the C & D. You obviously aren't going to listen. Good for you!
FrysGIRL

Bending Unit
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« Reply #5 on: 04-14-2003 20:16 »

Oh, man, Jon. So sorry to hear.

"I'm not giving my name to a machine!" - Bender

Way to follow in Bender's footsteps.
[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #6 on: 04-15-2003 02:23 »

One thing though: It is not FOX sending these out. The MPAA acts on its own with these. It's a standard letter they send out all the time. They're well known for not doing any research. Their method is to send out these letters in raw masses to hit some of the valid targets.

Write tripod (after removing tripod tirades).
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #7 on: 04-15-2003 02:33 »
« Last Edit on: 04-15-2003 02:33 »

Heh, at first, I thought I just went over my monthly bandwidth, thus tripod gave an error saying I exceeded my bandwidth...but that only lasts an hour, and the site has been down all day... These frigging guys shut down my entire site, for ONE FRIGGING SHTML PAGE... JEEZ....


[edit] I checked tripods site, and it seems I did go over my bandwidth usage...the sites been offline for two days because of it, I guess.
Gocad

Space Pope
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« Reply #8 on: 04-15-2003 04:02 »
« Last Edit on: 04-15-2003 04:02 »

Morons! When will they get a C&D?


I'm watching you. Yes, YOU!
Nixorbo

UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #9 on: 04-15-2003 09:23 »

 laff

::Reads the letters through again::

 laff some more
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #10 on: 04-15-2003 16:23 »

Dear slurmman,

Pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA),  the Lycos
Intellectual
Property Department is writing to inform you of a notification Lycos
has received
regarding certain materials you had stored on the Tripod system
infringing the
intellectual property rights of another party.

In accordance with the DMCA,  access to the material that you had
stored on the
system has been immediately disabled.  The DMCA, however, establishes a
procedure under which you may have access to your materials restored.
Specifically,  you should send to the Lycos registered copyright agent
a counter
notification containing the following:

*A physical or electronic signature.

*Identification of the material that has been removed or to
which access has been disabled and the location at which
the material appeared before it was removed or access to it
was disabled.

*A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good
faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a
result of mistake or misidentification of the material to be
removed or disabled.

*Your name, address, and telephone number, and a
statement that you consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal
District Court for the judicial district in which the address is
located, or if your address is outside the United States, for
any judicial district in which Lycos may be found, and that
you will accept service of process from the person who
provided the notification of infringement to Lycos or an agent
of that person.
homerjaysimpson

Space Pope
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« Reply #11 on: 04-15-2003 16:31 »

It's judge judy time.
Smitty

Professor
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« Reply #12 on: 04-15-2003 16:36 »

Oh dear.
Margarita

Space Pope
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« Reply #13 on: 04-15-2003 16:42 »

they're crazy bastards.
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #14 on: 04-15-2003 16:42 »

So Lycos is basically saying:

"We nearly crapped our pants when we saw the note from the lawyers, being the spineless worms we are we decied to delete your hard work, rather than investigating the claims.

Click our pop-up adds, thanks."

This sucks.
JavieR

Starship Captain
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« Reply #15 on: 04-15-2003 17:12 »

Crappy MPAA and F***ing Lycos...  mad You should not give up and reopen Futurama Collectorama anywere else if you can.
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #16 on: 04-15-2003 17:36 »

even if I do move, I'd need the old url active directed to the new URL cause 99% of everyone uses slurmman.tripod.com, instead of my new URL (collectorama.doop.org)


So, I gotta fight for this, just so I can reopen to close down   hmpf
Grim

Professor
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« Reply #17 on: 04-18-2003 23:56 »

Did the MPAA respond yet?

I really liked collectorama, stupid assholes...  frown
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #18 on: 04-20-2003 17:11 »

nope, I'm gonna leave them my home number so I can talk to them on the phone and make tripod re-instate my site...

[Jon] - [my winamp statistics]
[CGEF - gotfuturama.com]
[Futurama Collectorama! - enjoyslurm.com]

Australian Guy

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #19 on: 04-22-2003 12:37 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2003 12:37 »

Jeezus, so collectorama is down !!!  frown
I hate those guys, they came after this website i frequented. it was something like www.jsr.com  he had a whole lotta shows there that wasnt normaly shown on TV. Some Fuckwit got spiteful, i beleive it was something like philybusa@yahoo.com   evil laugh He reported him to those arseholes, and his ISP shuthim down lickity split. If i ever catch the guy that did that ill learn to be a l337 HaXoR i'll find out who he was and melt his comp. I dont belive in spite normally, but one good deed deserves another.
Anarchist

Professor
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« Reply #20 on: 04-25-2003 13:43 »

Ah yes, good old Tripod. I've had some wonderful experiences with them as well. I ran a couple of game sites in my days, which were taken down arbitrarily and I was sent threatening e-mails about copyright infringement. (The only things my sites offered were news, patches, demos, and links to other [legal] sites.) I considered trying to get to the bottom of it, but decided that they were not worth the effort.
Do what I did: Write a nice, vulgar   up yours   up yours   up yours email to Tripod and switch providers. Redirecting visitors can be problematic, however - good luck with that. Ask the sites that link to yours to update the URL, and you should get back most of your visitors quickly - if they visit one Futurama fansite, chances are they visit some of the others as well.

Also, to prevent future pains in moving to a different URL, get a free cjb.net or no-ip.com redirector and spread that around as your URL. That way, no matter what your actual URL is, people will always be able to access it by going to slurmman.cjb.net (or whatever redirector you use).
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #21 on: 04-25-2003 18:11 »

Those bastards. They treat us like animals, and that's what we became!!! Hahahaha, nah, I'm just kidding, they majorly suck.
]PaulFSAC[

Professor
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« Reply #22 on: 05-01-2003 14:37 »

Keep fighting Jon, Futurama needs all the sites it can get.
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #23 on: 05-01-2003 16:16 »

Called them, didnt get a return call...but I might had missed it (doubt it)


No reply email either...


I'd email tripod, and ask them to just reopen my site, but I doubt they would without MPAA letting me... *sigh*...


[Jon] - [my winamp statistics]
[CGEF - gotfuturama.com]
[Futurama Collectorama! - enjoyslurm.com]

SB

Bending Unit
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« Reply #24 on: 05-01-2003 16:22 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by bart182:
Called them, didnt get a return call...but I might had missed it (doubt it)


No reply email either...


I'd email tripod, and ask them to just reopen my site, but I doubt they would without MPAA letting me... *sigh*...


If you want, I can place it on SFPP's server, until something is sorted, that was it stays alive, to a degree.

SFPP - Please Visit - Click the block tongue
Click to enter my site.


One Arm, One Hand, All Artist tongue
SQFreak

Professor
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« Reply #25 on: 05-01-2003 18:14 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2003 18:14 »

Depending upon how big the site is, I can give it a home. E-mail me if you want to consider it.

(I'm probably going to get a C&D letter from the RIAA pretty soon, for hosting my band's Website with music clips. My reply will be, "Here, look at this notarized letter giving me permission to use the clips. Suck it." )

EDIT:
Oh, and did anyone else notice that the MPAA represents Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation? The Futurama DVDs and VCDs are distributed by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment, and the show is produced by Twentieth Century Fox Television. Nowhere does Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation come into the equation. The MPAA has no right to serve you this notice, as they do not represent the copyright holder.
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #26 on: 05-01-2003 19:18 »

Hmm, that's a nasty legal technicality!
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #27 on: 05-01-2003 19:31 »

I already have a new host for it... problem is, I really need the tripod site back on line to tell people ive moved... ive been using that url for about 4 years (maybe 3) and google probably wont delete it any time soon either.
miker0x

Crustacean
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« Reply #28 on: 05-04-2003 00:41 »

Shows how great FOX is, doesnt it?

[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #29 on: 05-06-2003 13:53 »

Well, it's back: http://slurmman.tripod.com/
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #30 on: 05-06-2003 15:07 »
« Last Edit on: 05-06-2003 15:07 »

Woo! I contacted you about the webhosting problem.

EDIT: Just noticed your request is from Feb 19th, so you can ignore that if you want!
bart182

Professor
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« Reply #31 on: 05-07-2003 15:57 »


Aslate,

 
Quote
Originally posted by bart182:
I already have a new host for it... problem is, I really need the tripod site back on line to tell people ive moved... ive been using that url for about 4 years (maybe 3) and google probably wont delete it any time soon either.

Thanks for the offer though  smile


In related news: 

To whom it may concern -

I write in regards of MPA case Reference #1105138 for the Tripod site located at the following URL: http://slurmman.tripod.com/

After careful consideration of this matter, we would like to request that you please reinstate the site as soon as possible. We appreciate the help that you have provided to us in the past concerning our anti piracy efforts. If you have any concerns, comments, or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us regarding this matter. Thank you for your time.


Yours,
Chris Harshman, MPA


Now, I need to finish up moving the site and then everything should be fine...
Margarita

Space Pope
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« Reply #32 on: 05-07-2003 17:16 »

Yay Collectorama on Tripod is back!
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #33 on: 05-07-2003 17:30 »

I want to see what they say about the copyright owners, as mentioned in SQFreak's post.
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