TheSacredEye

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A new Leela site has been born into the great world called internet. It's "The Sacred Eye", a Yahoo Group.

The Inner Circle is a select group of Leela fans and Lovers. The group functions as a medium for all Leela fans and Lovers to get together and chat. Here there is no judgement nor prejudice, and here there is no presure. Sure we talk about Leela and her show Futurama, but also, here we become friends, and chat about whatever is on our minds.
Those who are members, are part of an elite group of people, who are privee, to added bonuses now and then.
However here, you can't just join. You have to be accepted. This process is to filter out the trouble makers.
We don't discriminate against anyone

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Sacred_Eye/

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Just so you know, i'm pretty sure the previous yahoo groups failed. It's not as easy as a message board to post there (i think). That and there are enough 'forums' out there to do the job.

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^Wow, that's an encouraging attitude.   

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its a site or a group?

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And is it one of those groups where you get those annoying E-mails from the members every single day in your inbox?  I hate those... I joined one once and I got at least 30 E-mails a day, if not more.

I'm not saying it's bad, but personally I couldn't put up with those E-mails.  I remember that they wouldn't take me off when I asked them kindly so I started pissing everyone off until they did.  Played out well!  lol. ^^

--Missy

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Originally posted by aslate:
It's not as easy as a message board to post there (i think).

You think so  ... but posting is easy there.
 

Originally posted by LittleMiss:
And is it one of those groups where you get those annoying E-mails from the members every single day in your inbox?

Uhm, not really ... When you join a Yahoo group, you can usually say if you want those "annoying" mails or if you don't want it so.

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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
^Wow, that's an encouraging attitude.   

Sorry, but it's true. I'm more of a realist.

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Originally posted by aslate:
I'm more of a realist.

Ah, a realist ... You may not know, but there are two great "schools" of politic/philosophy: The Realists and the Idealists.
A Realist: Everyone is on the ground of his mind/soul evil
An Idealist: Everyone is on the ground of his mind/soul good.
I'm more an idealist. 

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Originally posted by LittleMiss:
And is it one of those groups where you get those annoying E-mails from the members every single day in your inbox?  I hate those... I joined one once and I got at least 30 E-mails a day, if not more.

yep same

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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela:
The Inner Circle is a select group of Leela fans and Lovers. The group functions as a medium for all Leela fans and Lovers to get together and chat. Here there is no judgement nor prejudice, and here there is no presure. Sure we talk about Leela and her show Futurama, but also, here we become friends, and chat about whatever is on our minds.
Those who are members, are part of an elite group of people, who are privee, to added bonuses now and then.
However here, you can't just join. You have to be accepted. This process is to filter out the trouble makers.
We don't discriminate against anyone

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Sacred_Eye/

Why does this sound like Assassin a.k.a. Leela Lover Matt?

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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Why does this sound like Assassin a.k.a. Leela Lover Matt?

Bender: Hey, nothing against Matt, ok?!   
Well, ok - this text isn't by me. I never said it is. But why shouldn't it be not by me?
I think this text is nice and friendly. Ok, may you don't like the words "elite grop", but ... whatever.
Well, Matt told me - I should tell you he had problems with his PEEL account, so he couldn't write here about TSE. And so I did this for him.
'nough said ...

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No that much is it. The Leela Zone tops that anyday!

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TSE is not a (fan) site, it's a (fan) group.
So we don't care what TLZ tops and when and how ...

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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela:
TSE is not a (fan) site, it's a (fan) group.
So we don't care what TLZ tops and when and how ...

Tops what?  Or Shouldn't I go there 

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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela:
TSE is not a (fan) site, it's a (fan) group.
So we don't care what TLZ tops and when and how ...

I only read wrong is all, don't worry SB.

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Finally, the one who created the site that hosts the group, is able to talk for himself.
LLM here folks, so let me get down to the basics, and end the rumors before they start, oh wait, too late....
1. The site is not hard to use, nor are there a lot of popup adds.
2. Yes, there are group E-mails sent out, but thanks to YAHOO letting me set the E-mail stats, the E-mails are not annoying AND if you don't want E-mails, just go to your profile and click NO E-MAILS!

"And now, the rest of the story."
When ever did Daniela or I say or suggest we are in competition with TLZ? TLZ is their own site, with their own way of running things. I have LLDC (Leela Lover Dot Com), where one can get the best in Leela information, and then I have TSE (The Sacred Eye). TSE is the home for my group, The Inner Circle.
TSE is a whole network of it's own. Very simple and yet effective. No flashy gimics or graphics to take up loading time.
TSE is a Yahoo group, but I have made it, so it is user friendly. Even the colors for the front page are easy on the eyes.
The only thing TLZ and us are in competition for, is the use for the adjective "The." Yes, I admit it. I stole the "T" in TLZ's abreviation for use in our site! MY GOD! What have I done?!
Actually, it is a site and not just a group. It is a location on the Internet that host information and content for it's users. Hence a site. Sure I didn't write the code to make it, but I put my name on it, and in America, that's damn good enough.
In fact, it is a site, with it's own chat room, files page for the users to use, and links page. It also hosts it's own E-mail service.
We have content(pictures, programs), links (Futurama and none-Futurama), our own private chat room, info page, files, photos, a calendar for Futurama events, a polls section... It goes on.
The whole idea behind TSE is a friendly atmosphere where the subject of Futurama or Leela does not get deviated off? Sure there are off topic discussions, but we always stay with the fact that it is a Futurama/Leela community. You make a few friends, there are no cheap insults, no pointless E-mails and the subject of *anunciates each word* "how tight are my pants," or anything like it will never be. In fact, there are no ranks, which helps to prevent pointless subjects like so. (No offense to the creators of PEEL, but "how tight are my pants." is mind-numbingly pointless).
If you want, you can privately contact somebody, and have the most off topic disscussion you want.
You may ask, how do I make sure it stays friendly? I make sure, by interviewing every applicant personally before they join. I love psychology class and reading the book "People watching," they taught me so much. Basically, the interview process is where I ask people questions, and never the same questions. And through their answers, I am able to find the trouble makers, and real people. (Psychology is fun).
If you want to get 30 E-mails a-day, go to a UFO Yahoo group. If you want to get E-mails only when they matter (11 E-mails have been sent out, but that's altogether and over the last month), come to my place.
Me and the team work to make TSE better however the members want it to be. That's right, TSE has been made with the suggestions of the members only. That way, they feel as if they put their "two cents," into the site somehow. Besides being able to store your own Leela content, you too can sugggest anything for the site, and we do listen.
Our numbers are growing, but there is always room for more.
We at TSE respect privacy, so we do not divulge the names of any of the members to the public, unless they say so.
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Sacred_Eye/
Go there ^ to apply.

PS: If the above message seems like a press release speach, it is. I am releasing the bare facts about what TSE is.
Feel free to go there to look. If you don't see any of the options I just told you about, good. Because those do not open up, until you are accepted.
Male/Female, we don't discriminate against anyone.

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PS:
This group will not fail, becaue the team and I are dedicated to it, and the subject base. Yes, there is a team, because no wise man would take on such a task by himself.

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Well I like it.  Anywhere that hosts a bunch of Leela pictures is on to a winner, and the people I've chatted with are all great. 

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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Well I like it. Anywhere that hosts a bunch of Leela pictures is on to a winner,

yes  Leela pictures 
 

the people I've chatted with are all great.

yep, it's always nice to chat with great people ... and great to chat with nice people... Hehe 

Leela Lover Daniela

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No, there is no spam or annoying E-mails, and there are no pop up ads.
Just a community, hosted on a site. The site is FOR the members, and the members get to put their two cents in about how the site should look.
You can change your E-mail settings to not even get E-mails from the group. The group is all about talking, chating, and getting to know one another, while talking about Leela, Futurama, or any other subject that perhaps my cross our minds. We manage to stay on the subject on the subject of Leela, or Futurama, but if we need, we can diviate.
The members are allowed to store their favoirte Leela pictures, and other members can view them. We also host Leela programs, screen savers and more.
The group is devoted to creating an atmosphere where no one is judged, discriminated againsts, or treated unfairly. There are no pointless posts (ie HOW TIGHT ARE MY PANTS).
Think of it as a coffee bar, where people get together, hang out, and have a good time. No soap operas, no dramatics.
Go ahead, check us out, if you want to join, I need to interview you first, this is to make sure we can filter out the trouble makers who wish to ruin the peacful atmosphere WE the members has created.
We are accepting Leela fans, and lovers.

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I don't get that. Leela fans and Leela lovers. Are you suggesting that the fans don't "love" her?  Really, I don't get why you make the distinction. Oh well. Interviewing? We get to play 50 questions? What kind of questions are asked? Do we get to ask you questions or is it more one sided?

BTW, you want to make sure not to put too much on as there is limited bandwith and they start taking stuff off to make room. But I'll bet you knew that.

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Originally posted by Allen:
I don't get that. Leela fans and Leela lovers. Are you suggesting that the fans don't "love" her?    Really, I don't get why you make the distinction.

It's the difference between dedication and sheer fanaticism, bordering on the pathetic.

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Thanks for the clarification, Nix. (padlocks closet door)  I like Leela, but I don't worship her.

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Allen, maybe you should e-mail/chat to Daniela or Matt before writing off TSE.

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Who's writing off people? I'm not. Just stating an opinion. I never said I thought the group was bad or pathetic. Although I do think interviewing sounds kind of like invasion of privacy. I'll check it out though.

BTW, I love psychology too. Nobody ever listens to my advice though. They tend to do the opposite, leading down dark roads.

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What questions are on the interview process? I can't say honestly because, every interview process is different. I set up a way to interview the person, and ask simple questions that anyone can answer. However, some of the questions are to filter out the trouble makers, those who join to either make trouble, or hurass the members.
Once again I say, all I can gurantee is a friendly atmosphere, friends to talk with, and your own place to store your favorite Leela stuff, plus you can look at the Leela stuff others have stored.
No drama, soap operas, ranks, or pointless posts. Just people talking Leela, Futurama, or perhaps something else.

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I don't know if this group is any good, but you seriously should stop kidding yourselves.

No ranks? What with the elite group thing or the rank as interviewer/founder?
No discrimination? That's what application interviews do by definition.
No judgement? What is that meant to mean? Everyone always judges and asseses everyone in conversations by what they contribute.
No junk/Pointless posts? Junk flows in as soon as things grow and "pointless" is subjective. I for one would classify any Leela hymn of praise as pointless.

Just see yourself as what you are. One of the ~50 Yahoo groups with a Futurama theme.

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Point goes to marc. I'm sure your interviewing process lets a few slip through. The internet may have come a long way and it's no longer totally anonymous(sp?), but people are still capable of lying. It would be easier to just moderate the messages and weed spammers and trouble makers out, but it's your choice.

Personally, Yahoo's gone to hell lately. Restricting bandwidth and plugging every message with advertisements. Sometimes you have to go through an advertisement to get to the message. Pretty soon, you might have to start paying as well especially if you want more bandwidth. You could charge the user, but you'd risk losing business. "Nobody's gonna drive this lousy freeway, when they can take the red car for a nickel." [Who Framed Roger Rabbit]

So if we clicked the join button, do you proceed to interview by e-mail?

Sorry about the third degree of stuff you probably know. Just making sure you understand is all. Your group might be good for all I know. I ask one though. Quit talking like a salesperson. You shouldn't have to sell people on it, they should judge for themselves.

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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Allen, maybe you should e-mail/chat to Daniela or Matt before writing off TSE.

@ Allen : Look at my profil, there you'll find my AIM name / e-mail. Feel free to say "Hello!" ... 
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PEEL's unofficial Feministic Warrior

[Reply #29 on:]

Hello all again, I have more questions to answer, which I will do so, now:
1. The fact that I call myself, The Interviewer or The founder, is because, I am, and I am. When I say no ranking, is because there are no ranks, I feel ranking produces an unhappy enviroment for some members. Making it almost seem like your ranking is what you have to focus on, sort of like the tyranical American military, and no one likes the American Military, specially me, and I'm an American.
I have what Yahoo gave me, Founder. I consider myself a fellow member not above anyone at the group, and if you would see the posts to the members, I jokingly call myself, "Fearless Leader."
2. If the other members wanted to ask, the interviewed questions, they are free to as well. After all, I encourage all my fellow members to put in their two cents. I have the process, so I don't have to censor the members or kick anyone out. I don't like kicking people out.
3. No discrimination is put to show that there is none when applying. For example, because we have no discrimination, we have female members, AND male members; something tells me if I didn't put that up, we would be a male only group, and I don't like the idea of leaving people out.
4. Everyone judges? Marc, if you ask me, that is a pretty grim judgment about your members and the world. Marc, if you don't understand what I mean when I say, "No Judgement," then prehaps my chum, you have missed the point. And frankly you seem to be the only one who has missed the point. Hence why I will not explain what I mean.
5. *Kif groan* Okay Marc stay with me on this one *points to own eyes for Marc to focus on* When you join TSE, you can change your mail settings so you don't even get mail from the group at all, you can set it to only recieve special annoucements, or every E-mail that comes from the group. I don't force E-mail upon anyone. Also, the group won't send you E-mails that are just about advertisment.
6. If you are so unstable that the slightest advertisement sends you into a blood boiled rage, or if your taters are touching the gravey, may I suggest you take some Depakote (DIVALPROEX). I read in one of my psychology books it is a mood stablizer, perhaps I also can suggest about a 500 MG dosage.
7. A Leela hyme? We don't have those.
Praise? We don't do that. HOWEVER! If some members wanted to, they could, WITHOUT JUDGEMENT!
8. Marc, why do you wish to only insult a group that the members have worked so hard to create? Just about every member has added something to that place, and your anger towards us members is filled with such ignorance, it makes me wonder about you.
You say we should face facts about the kind of site we are? Let me ask you this Marc, who deemed you the JUDGE of sites? Just because you say it's bad, does that make you the Judge? While Allen has obviously respectfully expressed a point (with some harsh sub points, but they are his opinion), you seem to only be the only one delievering judgement about TSE.
9. No pointless posts, this goes back to the ranking system. Now although this is not meant as an attack upon the ranking here, I mean it only as my opinion. I keep hearing how the members are trying to up their ranking, by posting such things as, "How tight are my pants," and some subjects are created to give the posters more points at the expense of insulting others.
10. We are not your average Yahoo/Futurama group. I've been to them, and the difference between them and our group is, the group is run by the members, so there is always stuff on, and frankly, I haven't gotten any complaints.

Allen, thank you for your point, it is a good one, and duely noted. You click the JOIN button, and enter in your most active E-mail address. I get an E-mail saying you have applied, and then I talk with you. Basically, the interview process is to get to know the person before they come in. Everyone, please check your E-mail often so I can talk with you as soon as possible.
By the way, if I do sound like a salemen, it is because I want to. I find it amusing.

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Maybe read my post again and take a dictionary to guide you through it. Special interest might be in "to judge" and "to discriminate".

I didn't say your group is bad at all. I said it's likely not the seventh cloud in heaven you make it out to be. I'm not going to keep pointing things out here because it simply does not interest me much. You might want to consider that currently PEEL is your only 1:N "member acquisition" method. Coming over like you just did here on PEEL might not be helpful.

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Marc, you take things to personally. Can't you have a little fun once in a while? After all, this is just a message board.
Personally, if you are going to take things so seriously, then you can't go up, and call a site to it's owner, nothing good. I take it next you are going to go up to Daniela and the rest of the members, and tell them, "Face it, you guys don't have much."
People come to this wonder called the Internet to express themselves, and when you go up to them, and tell them what they have expressed, is not living up to to par, you have gone too far. And to even bring in your own expierence into the mix and use it against them, instead of contructively advising them, you might be going in the direction that you so quickly have said the world is heading to, a society of people who care not, and just judge.
Now I don't want to get on a rant here, but let's face it folks, the Internet has become more then just bits and electrical signals, it has become the town square where you can meet your latest wench, or perhaps throw rotten fruit at the local outcast. But that's the problem, we use the screen to distance ourselves from what is actually happening. I know the old saying, "sticks and stones..." but that just doesn't crack it.
Sometimes, even when say, myself, doesn't know all the code to make your flashy website, what should really count, and doesn't, about making websites, is if the person put their heart and soul into the making of it. Sometimes the soul doesn't have animated banners or exclusive interviews, but what it does have is heart. Now Marc will look at the opening page to TSE, and say, "Where are the flashy things, where is the content? This must mean the site sucks, and there by, must be told to the public." Well what the public may not know, is that what you can't see, is that I care deeply about what I have put into that site, and how much I care for the people who wish to join me there, and put their own two cents in. What they don't see is me talking to the people, all of us becoming friends, and myself and Daniela becoming so close, we now consider each other brother and sister.
Yeah, I don't know how to change the color of the scroll bar, but I do know how to affect a person's heart and soul by simply saying a friendly, hello; something, I feel is expressed in a simple site, then any flashy banner could give.
When did the Internet go from bringing us closer together as a people, to putting us into catagories and judging who even is worthy to be a certain rank? You may ask if I am just seeing this for the first time, but what I am seeing is, we don't have to let it be that way. I for one come on here to talk with people, express my opinion, and come closer to the ones I care about.
Is my site the perverbial cloud nine I make it to be, I think so. Did Marc do the right thing by publicly insulting TSE and the hardwork we the members have done with it, no.
Marc, if I was in your place, instead of telling you to "face facts," I would refer you to some helpful material, perhaps a good example, and even give a little friendly pat on the back with a "good job" added for spice.
I love my sites, LLDC and TSE, I love the people that I talk to, and from what I understand, they love me too.
Have I ever told someone to "face facts?" No. Instead, I try and help them, guide them, for I too have my areas of profession and expertise.
Folks, if you think you don't affect people when you even acknowledge their presence, you are dead wrong. If you think by posting things, just to get points, at the expense of hurassing or upsetting people is no biggie, you are even more wrong. We are a highly evolved race that has lost it's way, and frankly, I am saddened by this.
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[Reply #32 on:]

Stop making up things that I supposedly said so you can rebut them. People see through these things. That is the part about your posts I take personal.

If I wanted to personally insult you, I would've had plenty of opportunity. I did not, because I frankly don't care enough about you. 

Have I ever told someone to "face facts?" No. Instead, I try and help them

If you don't want to face them, that's your problem really. I'm not actively helping you with TSE as it's factual competition to PEEL and - in my view and out of my expirience with online community crafting - conceptually flawed beyond hope.

[Reply #33 on:]

 

Originally posted by [-mArc-]: I did not, because I frankly don't care enough about you.

That seems like an insult to me. Everyone now and then i sleep in and find the world has gone topsy-turvey. As if ive woken up in a parallel dimension. PPl are gettin bitchy at each other over the threads. And now theres talk of gettin rid of all WMD on the radio. What Is This World Coming To 

[Reply #34 on:]

You took it out of context. What I said is that I just can't care enough about every person online in a way that would allow me to personally insult each of them. There are time constraints involved and there are interest priorities involved (edited: Not that I want to insult everyone anyway). Both of the two will result in me not participating in this thread any further.

[Reply #35 on:]

Short post here,
Some friendly advice Marc, it is a lot easier to care for everyone, then to hate the ones you only have time for. Hatered takes up all of your time, while carring and love takes up none, and yet gives you so much more.
*Makes a peace sign with his two fingers, crosses those fingers, and while shoving those fingers forwards shouts* LOVE AND PEACE! LOVE AND PEACE! *Repeatedly*

[Reply #36 on:]

Matt, for the love of God Almighty herself, you can't set yourself up, paint a big ol' target on your forehead, jump up and down shouting 'come and get me', then start complaining if rocks start coming your way.

Quit moaning and _please_ stop with the long, boring, drawn out rebuttals. They set you up some more.

Of course you can say whatever you want, wherever you want, however you want; but you have to be prepared to pay for it.

Marcus.

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Originally posted by Assassin:
*Makes a peace sign with his two fingers, crosses those fingers, and while shoving those fingers forwards shouts* LOVE AND PEACE! LOVE AND PEACE! *Repeatedly*

Vash the Stampede you ain't, boy.

[Reply #38 on:]

 

Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Vash the Stampede you ain't, boy.

Who's being compared to who now?

Marcus.

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Originally posted by Marcus:
Who's being compared to who now?

::Fixed::

It's from an anime series called Trigun.  PLenty o' pictures of it in the anime pic thread, if you dare plumb its murky depths.  Or you could just use Google, whichever.