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KurtPikachu2001

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« on: 05-12-2011 18:30 »

Why is it on this website, in the Futurama section, they classify Fry as a hero just because he's the main character, and classify Leela as a 'faux action girl'?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #1 on: 05-12-2011 18:39 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2011 18:41 »

Never heard of the website, but it sounds poorly made.

Now watch in amazement as another user such as TNUK or Xanfor comes in and starts to mouth off at me and prove they are better in every way. Ok maybe not Xanfor but definately TNUK.  shifty
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« Reply #2 on: 05-12-2011 19:06 »

Why is it on this website, in the Futurama section, they classify Fry as a hero just because he's the main character, and classify Leela as a 'faux action girl'?

It doesn't. Stop leading others astray with this defamation.

Besides being the main character, Fry is, among many other things, an idiot hero, a dogged nice guy, a ditz, a non-action guy, a fish out of temporal water, an Arthur Dent, the Watson, and a crouching moron, hidden badass.

Leela is nowhere defined as a faux action girl, but rather, among many other things, an actual action girl, a straight woman, a mood swinger, a tomboy to Amy's girly-girl, and despite how she criticizes all her crewmates, not really that above it all herself.

This website is accurate. This website will educate you. This website is brilliant. This website is not poorly made. no no

totalnerduk

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« Reply #3 on: 05-13-2011 02:44 »

Now watch in amazement as another user such as TNUK or Xanfor comes in and starts to mouth off at me and prove they are better in every way. Ok maybe not Xanfor but definately TNUK.  shifty

Fuck off.



TV Tropes is basically a compendium and reference guide for all storytelling elements that can be identified within individual works especially those that either define or subvert a genre. It's addictive, too. One click and you'll be hooked.
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« Reply #4 on: 05-13-2011 03:10 »

Now watch in amazement as another user such as TNUK or Xanfor comes in and starts to mouth off at me and prove they are better in every way. Ok maybe not Xanfor but definately TNUK.

Fuck off.

Speak of the devil...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #5 on: 05-13-2011 17:21 »

Fuck off.

You know it's true!
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #6 on: 05-15-2011 06:04 »

On my list of things I never thought I would see - someone bashing tvtropes was near the top.  Bravo, I am genuinely surprised.  Either that, or you are a troll.
hobbitboy

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« Reply #7 on: 05-15-2011 12:31 »


   Leela is nowhere defined as a faux action girl, but rather, among many other things, an actual action girl, a straight woman, a mood swinger, a tomboy to Amy's girly-girl, and despite how she criticizes all her crewmates, not really that above it all herself.


Not to mention shorttank, and a rare non-anime example at that.   big grin

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #8 on: 05-15-2011 13:03 »

On my list of things I never thought I would see - someone bashing tvtropes was near the top.  Bravo, I am genuinely surprised.  Either that, or you are a troll.

The 1st one.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #9 on: 05-25-2011 20:30 »

If you haven't already, check the site out. It will change the way you watch tv.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #10 on: 05-25-2011 20:40 »

Seems like there are A LOT of articles on there... hmpf
Xanfor

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« Reply #11 on: 05-25-2011 20:44 »

Start with the article on Futurama, and then work onward from the links there.

It's been nice knowing you...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #12 on: 05-25-2011 20:47 »

I'll see you in 2674 then... big grin

Keep my profile preserved for when I return, or as a shrine for the future members of PEEL. laff
futurefreak

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« Reply #13 on: 05-26-2011 09:56 »

If you haven't already, check the site out. It will change the way you watch tv.
Seriously? Now I'm curious...
Archonix

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« Reply #14 on: 05-26-2011 10:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2011 10:48 »

If you're unlucky it'll turn you into a douche who thinks everything can be boiled down to neat little categories, who will then attempt to force everything into increasingly narrow and arbitrary definitions.
futurefreak

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« Reply #15 on: 05-26-2011 11:35 »

And if I'm lucky?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #16 on: 05-26-2011 13:29 »

And if I'm lucky?

You'll categorise things only when it's appropriate. Which is, let's face it, only about half the time. You may also start to categorise IRL things according to TVtropes definitions, and gain a new vocabulary.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #17 on: 05-26-2011 14:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2011 14:27 »

The good - it can help you identify plot devices and clever aspects of a show's writing. Check out how many tropes they mention Futurama as having subverted or turned on their heads.

The bad - as tnuk mentioned, you have to remember not to pigeonhole characters and storylines. That limits your appreciation of what you're watching by making you think of them in terms of tropes only.

The ugly - Mom and the Professor. Just a couple of elephant skin rugs in here!

Edit - You also have to make a... ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.
winna

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« Reply #18 on: 08-03-2011 13:06 »

Basically it boils all literature in any medium down to formulaic set of rules and examples so that even rare, unique, and interesting parts of story can be withered down and reused until they no longer have any impact. roll eyes
Bend-err

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« Reply #19 on: 08-03-2011 13:17 »

Or you start having TvTropes Duels on PEEL.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #20 on: 08-04-2011 11:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-04-2011 11:19 by SpaceGoldfishfromWazn »

Basically it boils all literature in any medium down to formulaic set of rules and examples so that even rare, unique, and interesting parts of story can be withered down and reused until they no longer have any impact. roll eyes

I love tvtropes, but so true.   My new mantra basically is: "No matter how hard I come up with an original idea for one of my own works, not only is there already a trope for it, there's at least 30 examples." It makes Wazn a sad goldfish.

Though I also think Amy counts for the CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass.  Girl has absolutely no common sense whatsoever, but still comes up with a machine that manages to halt and then reverse the earth's rotation.  Now that I think about it, most of the cast do (Zoidy *bleep* berg)
winna

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« Reply #21 on: 08-05-2011 18:54 »

Or you start having TvTropes Duels on PEEL.

Ok, fair enough, that was cool to see you Fight Fire with Fire against Xanfor. smile
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #22 on: 08-11-2011 03:07 »

Also Amy totally counts for Plucky Girl.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #23 on: 08-21-2013 02:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-21-2013 02:43 »

Tv tropes makes me feel weird when I read on it. I like it, it's fine, but I just get this weird feeling. I don't even know.

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I got it! It makes me feel jaded. No more reading on there.
Tachyon

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« Reply #24 on: 08-21-2013 02:42 »


Went there once.  Never going there again.  I don't *want* to learn all the tricks and techniques that people use when crafting shows.  I want to be happy in my ignorance! la-la-la-la-la, I can't *hear* you!  #fingersinears

Anna3000

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« Reply #25 on: 08-21-2013 04:40 »

I have a similar feeling toward TV Tropes you both do. I enjoy reading about shows/movies/novels I'm not a huge fan of, but it almost makes me sad to learn about the tricks used on my favorite shows, movies, etc.
Well, sad is not really the right word; I suppose it just gives me a cynical attitude that I don't want to develop towards things I love.
Beamer

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« Reply #26 on: 08-21-2013 04:45 »

Ehh, I'm a writer in my spare time so I genuinely find such material to be incredibly interesting. There aren't really that many different stories you can tell if you boil everything down to the absolute basics.

But, yeah, I can understand how a site like this might "ruin the magic" for some people/ smile
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