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jbird3000

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« on: 07-06-2000 22:33 »

I'm just wondering, with David leaving the Futurama Oscars, Futurama Elite being sold, and Futurama Top 50 barely updating, what do people find so hard about updating links sites?

Jason Barnabé
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slot-c

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« Reply #1 on: 07-06-2000 22:47 »

There are too many. It is not very rewarding to put all that work into a site and then having to share visitors with four others.
Plus, planet roadmap is all I need to stay updated.
Rubender
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« Reply #2 on: 07-07-2000 00:55 »

 
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Originally posted by slot-c:
There are too many. It is not very rewarding to put all that work into a site and then having to share visitors with four others.
Plus, planet roadmap is all I need to stay updated.

Well, as far as I know, The Oscars has/had more visitors than Planet Roadmap (which goes beyond comprehension), so I don't think that's the problem. And having to share visitors is never a problem as long as you're original. If you just steal content and use other people's ideas, people probably won't visit your site.
Plus, I don't think the problem is the links sites. The same happened to NBN. Three years making the site and a month after they opened it they got bored.
I don't think you should advertise your site a lot when it just opened. You should take things easy, and only when your confortable with what your doing, you should start trying to have as many visitors as possible. Otherwise you'll feel a big pressure.

As for the links sites, I think the problem is the lack of reasons for people to come back. Why should I go to some Top 20 site more than 4 times in my whole life? What do they have to offer? Is that site helpful for me?
Of course you'll go if you're a webmaster and want to see what's happening with (or what they're saying about) your site, but if your making a site oriented to webmasters, you're boned.

Planet Roadmap has several original sections that make you want to come back often.
The Oscars is based on its ranking, which is made according to the webmasters mood.
I don't think people want to go to a site just to see what Jwso, David, Yuha, etc, think of Futurama sites. I mean, people goes to that site, but I don't think they'll come back very often unless they have something else to offer.

So I don't think people (webmasters) find hard to update links sites, they just get bored.
Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #3 on: 07-07-2000 14:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Rubender:
Well, as far as I know, The Oscars has/had more visitors than Planet Roadmap (which goes beyond comprehension), so I don't think that's the problem.

I really doubt that.  Futurama Oscars is fairly new and I don't think they have a huge number of hits.  Planet Roadmap has somewhere around ninety thousand hits now (since about 13 months ago).  Not that I really care, I'm just saying.

And I agree with what you said about why would you want to visit a Top 20 or whatever more than 4 times in your life.  Because really, why would you??

I think the reason people return to Planet Roadmap quite often isn't because of our links, but the other things we have like the contest, webmasters around the world, stupid ages, etc.  Stuff that is updated often.  I can honestly say I haven't even looked through all the link sections, and I work there!  Links are ok to check out every month or so, when they're updated or if you need to find a site, but other than that, they're boring.

So: a hint for these link sites that are capsizing - make sections that people want to come back to see!


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[This message has been edited by Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G (edited July 07, 2000).]
slot-c

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« Reply #4 on: 07-07-2000 15:34 »

Making the site is the fun part but updating it after it has opened sucks.
The Baz

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« Reply #5 on: 07-07-2000 21:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Rubender:
Well, as far as I know, The Oscars has/had more visitors than Planet Roadmap (which goes beyond comprehension), so I don't think that's the problem. And having to share visitors is never a problem as long as you're original. If you just steal content and use other people's ideas, people probably won't visit your site.
Plus, I don't think the problem is the links sites. The same happened to NBN. Three years making the site and a month after they opened it they got bored.
I don't think you should advertise your site a lot when it just opened. You should take things easy, and only when your confortable with what your doing, you should start trying to have as many visitors as possible. Otherwise you'll feel a big pressure.

As for the links sites, I think the problem is the lack of reasons for people to come back. Why should I go to some Top 20 site more than 4 times in my whole life? What do they have to offer? Is that site helpful for me?
Of course you'll go if you're a webmaster and want to see what's happening with (or what they're saying about) your site, but if your making a site oriented to webmasters, you're boned.

Planet Roadmap has several original sections that make you want to come back often.
The Oscars is based on its ranking, which is made according to the webmasters mood.
I don't think people want to go to a site just to see what Jwso, David, Yuha, etc, think of Futurama sites. I mean, people goes to that site, but I don't think they'll come back very often unless they have something else to offer.

So I don't think people (webmasters) find hard to update links sites, they just get bored.

I for some reason did actually view Futurama Oscars and Planet Roadmap daily or close to since I enjoy the diversity of Planet Roadmap and I liked the opinions of Oscars.  Even though yeah' it is just some persons opinion of the day they didn't even bother to list my site it was still intresting to see other peoples input on the futurama world.  Maybe that is why I wanted to make a poll site so bad so I could see what others thought.  But I was very wrong to open my site so early because its first design was horrible and this design is bad but I'm in the works of a new one, since at first when I slipped out the word I felt I just couldn't then just shut it down out of the blue, since I had such a large(well not that large) amount of viewers who would come back and I didn't want to just stop.  But I wish I would of waited to open I do agree.  It is sad to see sites just....go like that I could see if it was up for grabs or something but just to have the plug pulled really makes you think...of what, I don't know.
---Baz
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[This message has been edited by The Baz (edited July 08, 2000).]
jbird3000

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« Reply #6 on: 07-07-2000 22:26 »

 
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Originally posted by The Baz:
I for some reason did actually view Futurama Oscars and PLanet Roadmap daily or close to since I enjoy the diversity of Planet Roadmap and I liked the opinions of Oscars, even though yeah' it is just some persons opinion of the day they didn't even bother to list my site it was still intresting to see other peoples input on the futurama world, maybe that is why I wanted to make a poll site so bad so I could see what others though.

But I was very wrong to open my site so early because its first design was horrible and this design is bad but I'm in the works of a new one, since at first when I slipped out the word I felt I just couldn't then just shut it down out of the blue since I had such a large(well not that large) amount of viewers who would come back and I didn't want to just stop.

Geez, use some periods (".")

I think that having more than one news/links site is kinda bad because people know that whatver one reports, the other will report a day later, so why visit both?

Jason Barnabé
The New Planet Roadmap: Tangy, Yet Refreshing.
r_hawks

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« Reply #7 on: 07-07-2000 23:38 »

Keeping your website updated can be a pain in the backside.  People that don't run websites must figure that we webmasters don't have any kind of life away from our computers (in some cases that's true).  I try to update at least every 3 or 4 days but you wouldn't believe some of the hate mail I get from people who want more.  Oh well, at least the hate mail lets you know that people are visiting more than once.

R Hawks
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Rubender
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« Reply #8 on: 07-08-2000 01:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Z red face:i:d:b:e:r:G:
  I really doubt that.  Futurama Oscars is fairly new and I don't think they have a huge number of hits.  Planet Roadmap has somewhere around ninety thousand hits now (since about 13 months ago).  Not that I really care, I'm just saying.

Well, I think that they said that they had 400 visits a day, and as far as I know you have an average of 250 visits a day.
If that it's true (the Oscars having 400 visits a day) then there's something wrong with... something. I dunno. They're gona now anyway.
Cherrn

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« Reply #9 on: 07-08-2000 14:26 »

The Oscars are closing? NAY! David is on a leave...and the site was just a little screwed lately...As far as I know, the Oscars will be back.
kazeri
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« Reply #10 on: 07-08-2000 22:37 »

I used to update daily, now the Top 50 gets updated at least every 3rd day. The whole point of the site is to be a way to for the first-time a person is looking to find specific stuff and general idea of a ranking even if it's not exact.

Whoa, PR has been open for 13 months, that means that the top 50 must have been open for at least 14 or maybe 15 months.

Regarding the main question:
There isn't really anything to update.

[This message has been edited by kazeri (edited July 08, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by kazeri (edited July 08, 2000).]
The Baz

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« Reply #11 on: 07-08-2000 23:34 »

 
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Originally posted by jbird3000:
Geez, use some periods (".")


 Just for you I re-did it with periods so you can attempt to read it again.  Maybe this time with the obvious reminders to pause it makes sense to you.  And thanks you pointing out what a period looked like because I just had no idea.  City folk like yourself know all that fancy punctuation.
---Baz

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Z:o:i:d:b:e:r:G
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« Reply #12 on: 07-09-2000 01:11 »

 
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Originally posted by The Baz:
   City folk like yourself know all that fancy punctuation.

City folk?  I'd hardly consider Jason city folk.  There's an entire 150 people in his hick-town in Manitoba. 

Aaron "I'm an expert on humans" D.
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jbird3000

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« Reply #13 on: 07-09-2000 22:38 »

 
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Originally posted by kazeri:
Whoa, PR has been open for 13 months, that means that the top 50 must have been open for at least 14 or maybe 15 months.

PR has been open for like 7 months. Roadmap and PF have been open for 13 months or so.

Jason Barnabé
The New Planet Roadmap: Tangy, Yet Refreshing.
The Baz

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« Reply #14 on: 07-14-2000 10:52 »

well Cherrn said that Futurama Oscars was going to return.  But now it is added to the Futurama Museum.  So now I'm utterly confused is Oscars down for good or is it coming back soon, or is it coming back after a few months.

O and I noticed Jason said that Futurama Top 50 doesn't update much well long ago (not that long) it didn't that much but recently I think they've done a good job updating.

Cherrn

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« Reply #15 on: 07-14-2000 12:42 »

I really have no idea if The Oscars will be back...According to the Fan-O-Rama, David left the site, and it closed the next day. According to David, he went on a leave for two weeks. And it's closed until "a later date". What'll happen, I dunno...I just work there.
jbird3000

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« Reply #16 on: 07-15-2000 01:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Cherrn:
I really have no idea if The Oscars will be back...According to the Fan-O-Rama, David left the site, and it closed the next day. According to David, he went on a leave for two weeks. And it's closed until "a later date". What'll happen, I dunno...I just work there.

I heard form David he'll be gone all summer. I don't think the Oscars can survive for long without him. I also doubt he'll be back. Although have been wrong many times before.


Jason Barnabé
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Cherrn

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« Reply #17 on: 07-16-2000 20:01 »

Re-he-heeeaaally....I think I'll need to have a little chat with Davy boy here.
jwso

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« Reply #18 on: 07-17-2000 00:01 »

don't count on the oscars re-re-opening  frown
Futurama Uncovered
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« Reply #19 on: 07-17-2000 06:22 »

well we could maye try convncing dave to re-open the oscars, if we got a lot of people to sign their name & country below, we could get maybe show him that we want them back?]

I'll Start: (read below message)
Futurama Uncovered
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« Reply #20 on: 07-17-2000 06:24 »

Jack Clements, Australia
The Baz

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« Reply #21 on: 07-17-2000 13:47 »

Alex Bazley, United States of America
Cherrn

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« Reply #22 on: 07-17-2000 15:30 »

People want it to come back, eh? David will have to get of his arse...I haven't seen him for a while.
Rubender
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« Reply #23 on: 07-18-2000 01:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama Uncovered:
well we could maye try convncing dave to re-open the oscars, if we got a lot of people to sign their name & country below, we could get maybe show him that we want them back?

Question: We do?
Answer: No, we don't.

Cool then.
Futurama Uncovered
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« Reply #24 on: 07-21-2000 22:44 »

What Did You Have Against The Oscars?

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