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Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #440 on: 11-30-2003 13:14 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 13:14 »

It is her doing, that's true. And I like how Ken approaches it this way- now Leela sees (or I'd assume) that she really does love Fry, since finding out he doesn't anymore (from the context) she realizes it. Still, this doesn't stop me from feeling sad for her, poor girl. How'd you like it if someone you secrertly love decides they don't love you anymore?

Shippy-tastic TOTPD
Wonderbee31

Starship Captain
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« Reply #441 on: 11-30-2003 13:58 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 13:58 »

Just finished reading UoM and it a great story as always.  I felt sad for Leela at the end, but she still seems to want to be locked onto her current course.  I wish that she'd wise up, but that looks difficult for her now. 

Also, Background Noise is getting very interesting as well.  Funny, two stories with Leela having feelings for Fry, but she just won't admit it to herself.  <sigh> 

I don't know how either of these stories will turn out, but I hope that something positive happens in the life of my favorite fictional couple.    smile
wu_konguk

Urban Legend
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« Reply #442 on: 11-30-2003 14:13 »

Well to continue the fashion. I just finished UoM 19. Pretty cool. I think I have said it before that I prefer the non DOOP parts and this had a alot of DOOP (just a personal thing, I just don't like the military that much)

Otherwise the emotional parts were well played out. At points I was reminded of a sort of twisted version of Tenchi Muyo but that is good because I love Tenchi Muyo.
Kudos Ken Kudos.
Ol“coot

Bending Unit
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« Reply #443 on: 11-30-2003 15:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
How'd you like it if someone you secrertly love decides they don't love you anymore?
 


That's just it though F_H. I don't think I could hide my feelings in that situation. I always suspected that Leela's feelings for Fry were something other than love anyway. I am looking forward to how Ken has this play out (hopefully he doesn't keep us waiting too long!).
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #444 on: 11-30-2003 15:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Ol'coot:
 
I am looking forward to how Ken has this play out (hopefully he doesn't keep us waiting too long!).

There's only about five more chapters to go... that's not too long, is it?   tongue
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #445 on: 11-30-2003 16:11 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 00:00 »

i don't know how to feel about this last chapter. The shipper in me is having an agonized fit, the drama queen in me is cautiously intrigued and the rest of me is still hoping for Alesia to suffer a sudden case of spontanious human combustion.

i feel so freaken bad for Leela though

is anything positive ever gonna happen to Leela at any point during this fic? It's always one thing after another, i keep waiting for the poor girl to just lose it. She never gets cut any slack. Alesia wanted to leave her to the Delphinians and Fry's all "i forgive you, it's cool" and then
I know Leela's hard edged, but jeez! She doesn't deserve all that. I don't think she has had one happy thing happen to her the entire story.   cry
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #446 on: 12-01-2003 02:48 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 02:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
is anything positive ever gonna happen to Leela at any point during this fic? It's always one thing after another, i keep waiting for the poor girl to just lose it. She never gets cut any slack. Alesia wanted to leave her to the Delphinians and Fry's all "i forgive you, it's cool" and then
I know Leela's hard edged, but jeez! She doesn't deserve all that. I don't think she has had one happy thing happen to her the entire story.     cry

Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #447 on: 12-01-2003 03:03 »

Ol“coot

Bending Unit
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« Reply #448 on: 12-01-2003 10:47 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif White:
 There's only about five more chapters to go... that's not too long, is it?    tongue

Not at all Ken! Actually I meant waiting for the next chapter...  wink
Ol“coot

Bending Unit
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« Reply #449 on: 12-01-2003 10:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
But her crew has known her for years. They know she's not capable of something like that.

That assumes that the crew knows her well. I am not sure I would conclude that, she strikes me as distant and cool towards the rest of the gang. Add to that the factor that her hostility for Alesia is extreme even for Leela.

When I read the scene, my first reaction was "damn, Leela whacked Alesia" - it seemed to fit the story so well. I am looking forward to see how Leela reacts to all of this (hopefully she'll get through it okay)..

Coot
Imagining darkly
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #450 on: 12-01-2003 14:54 »

Once again, own interpretations and all... but the others realise that Leela's been under a lot of pressure lately, and that she may be likely to snap. I don't think they ever thought that *Leela* was capable of killing Alesia... but instead the monster inside her, the monster in all of us, that can sometimes dictate our actions and make us do things under extreme pressure we would never do otherwise. So the crew didn't think Leela had consciously killed her, they thought the animal had been finally unleashed. Thankfully it hadn't.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #451 on: 12-01-2003 15:07 »

but will anything good happen for her? I mean everyone else has got something. Fry and Alesia got laid, bender got his body back, zoidburg got to eat and be helpful, which are 2 activities he adores, and Amy got a shopping spree. Leela got nothing. Not only has she been through the same hell as everyone else but theres all she went through trying to escape the delphinians plus the fact that as the captain she's the one expected to make all of the hard decisions and save them every time they get captured as well as the responsibility of making sure her crew gets home alive. How much longer can she possibly last when she is never given a break?
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #452 on: 12-01-2003 15:20 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 15:20 »

A good question. You'll just have to wait for the answer...   wink

I'd like to thank you though, Venus. You've brought up some very interesting points. Points which will be taken into serious consideration for future chapters. So, again, thank you   smile
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #453 on: 12-01-2003 15:39 »

Sorry to interupt, but people who like "Delicious Surprise": chapter 17 just went public on TLZ, and Kryten's "Catastrophe 3" is up too.

Well, DS 17 turned out just as good as the rest, although it feels like a lead-in to something big, very big, in chapter 18. Anway, I like it alot. Good work Missy.

And Kryten's work doesn't disappoint. In fact I can't mention a single one of his fics I didn't like. Catastrophe 3 is just as good and funny as the first 2 chapters. Highly recomendable. Ohh, and there's something about the name of Kif's race I really like.  wink
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #454 on: 12-01-2003 20:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
but will anything good happen for her? I mean everyone else has got something. Fry and Alesia got laid, bender got his body back, zoidburg got to eat and be helpful, which are 2 activities he adores, and Amy got a shopping spree. Leela got nothing. Not only has she been through the same hell as everyone else but theres all she went through trying to escape the delphinians plus the fact that as the captain she's the one expected to make all of the hard decisions and save them every time they get captured as well as the responsibility of making sure her crew gets home alive. How much longer can she possibly last when she is never given a break?

Oooooh what if she snaps and kills someone. Like Amy. Or maybe she'll accidentally hurt Fry and then everyone gets really mad at her, especially Alesia, and the group splits up and then....... um....

Like that's ever gonna happen   tongue

Skimmed UoM earlier, I plan to really read it later today. Also, I'm very much on Leela's side. She's been saving their butts the entire time, and not a word of thanks. I swear she ought to do some serious homicide, or at least consider it. That'd show them....    evil laugh

Still good as ever though, Kenneth.
Wonderbee31

Starship Captain
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« Reply #455 on: 12-01-2003 20:38 »

Just finished reading Delicious Surprise and Catastrophe, both are really well done.  I agree with Teral, DS 17 is like the calm before the storm, looks like some things going to happen big time in 18.  Kryten's fic has a great cliffhanger, and the return of one of my favorite secondary characters.  love

Can't wait for parts 18 and 4 respectively.  Whoo-hoo!
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #456 on: 12-01-2003 22:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif White:
I'd like to thank you though, Venus. You've brought up some very interesting points. Points which will be taken into serious consideration for future chapters. So, again, thank you    smile

Hurray! I'm influential! Anything i have said you are free to take and run with!


 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
 Also, I'm very much on Leela's side. She's been saving their butts the entire time, and not a word of thanks. I swear she ought to do some serious homicide, or at least consider it. That'd show them.... 

nah, homicide would make them fear her but attempted suicide, now there's an attention getter.   evil laugh
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #457 on: 12-01-2003 22:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
 nah, homicide would make them fear her but attempted suicide, now there's an attention getter.    evil laugh

That's so damn cliche. It's homicide that makes them jump, especially when it's all just a dream after all...

Then Leela looks and sees blood all over her clothes and a dead corpse on the ground with a knife stuck in it. Horror all the way!   big grin
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #458 on: 12-01-2003 22:57 »

homicide is great when its just a dream. But too hard to do if it's not a dream cause once she's killed someone there's no way anyone would forgive her. There's no way to fix the situation, plus there's the whole jail factor.
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #459 on: 12-01-2003 23:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
homicide is great when its just a dream. But too hard to do if it's not a dream cause once she's killed someone there's no way anyone would forgive her. There's no way to fix the situation, plus there's the whole jail factor.

They're already fugitives-on-the-run (I think? At least, from the Delphinians and the pirates). Who's gonna jail them? Zapp's gone with Baldur and DOOP is busy looking for the gems. Bwahahahaa.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #460 on: 12-01-2003 23:29 »

There not fugitives from earth and if she killed one of her crew mates all of which are earth citizens then she could be looking at jail time. Which isn't really even the important part. It's the irraversable damage it would do to her relationship with her friends that would be the big issue.
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #461 on: 12-01-2003 23:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
There not fugitives from earth and if she killed one of her crew mates all of which are earth citizens then she could be looking at jail time. Which isn't really even the important part. It's the irraversable damage it would do to her relationship with her friends that would be the big issue.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhm......


I think that's already done. And especially mixed with the end of the chapter... she is SO homicidal right now, I swear, the shot at Alesia is like the beginning, and then she'll really get mad. She's too strong for suicide in this fanfic, you can just tell.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #462 on: 12-01-2003 23:41 »

She didn't seem homicidal at the end of the chap, and she never really was even when she shot at Alesia. Her relationship with her friends is pretty messed up at the moment but not completely dead. An actual homicide would really seal the deal.
Wonderbee31

Starship Captain
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« Reply #463 on: 12-01-2003 23:56 »

True, if Leela did become homicidal, then that would seal the deal, in  a way.  But I still think her friends (especially Fry)would still move heaven and earth for her if she asked them for help.

That said, it does seem like Leela has had the hardest time in this story, and I too hope that she catches a break, and that her and Fry's relationship will come back around.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #464 on: 12-02-2003 23:53 »

Finished reading DS, wonderful as always. I can't wait for the next chapter it looks like a major one.

One question though. i noticed Leela's parents keep calling her 'dollushki' does that mean something? It sounds vagely jewish to me but i have no idea what it means.
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #465 on: 12-02-2003 23:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
Finished reading DS, wonderful as always. I can't wait for the next chapter it looks like a major one.

One question though. i noticed Leela's parents keep calling her 'dollushki' does that mean something? It sounds vagely jewish to me but i have no idea what it means.

Sounds more like a European language than Hebrew, but you may be right. I have the Hebrew vocabulary of a 4-year-old native Israeli...
Zoop
Crustacean
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« Reply #466 on: 12-03-2003 05:57 »

just finished last chapt of UoM. Great, simply great.  smile

Now I wonder what Leela could do to regain her crew's trust and Fry's love ? At this point wouldn't the crew try to mutiny ?

suicide sure is no solution... killed in action while fighting the ennemy, saving them all once more ? of course not killed maybe seriously wounded ? or an NDE during which she finds answers to her probs, making her realize her true love and that her hatred for Alesia is so futile, so vain ? Leela finally relieved of a great pain that's been eating away at her ...
something really ecstatic, calm and literaly psychedelic (sp?)

after so much trouble, the outcome of this part of her history would be sooooo intense !

(end of delirium)

wellwellwell
ok keep cool
zen...

can't wait next chapter
Thoth

Bending Unit
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« Reply #467 on: 12-03-2003 10:50 »

suicide is kinda weak,as for hommocide, better but as said would only make things worse.
An ordinary nervous breakdown would suffice i think...
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #468 on: 12-03-2003 11:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Thoth:
suicide is kinda weak,as for hommocide, better but as said would only make things worse.
An ordinary nervous breakdown would suffice i think...

Also cliched. If it really would tear things apart, why not

A) Contemplated homicide

B) Accidental murder (manslaughter?)

That way, she thinks about doing it, or she does it on accident. It all works!   evil laugh
Ol“coot

Bending Unit
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« Reply #469 on: 12-03-2003 12:02 »

If not a breakdown maybe some extensive soul searching (if she can find the time!). It would be quite a trip to follow Leela in her quest to figure herself out. It could be a vehicle to expand her character story and maybe make for an upbeat ending for her.(Besides it might add a couple of chapters! <G> )
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #470 on: 12-03-2003 12:49 »

when i said suicide, i didn't actually mean i thought she would or should do it, A-F was saying homicide would "show the crew" that they weren't treating her right. But homicide wouldn't show them anything it would just make them fear her/ mutiny/ assume she's turned evil. As far as "showing them" or attention getters go, suicide would be enough to make the crew realize that maybe they should back off with the pressure. But i never actually thought it was a story line Kif should use.

Besides regular emotional breakdowns are much more fun anyway.
Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #471 on: 12-03-2003 15:51 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2003 15:51 »

On regards to Alesia and what I think of her, not that many would care, but I'll say anyway   tongue, I used to basically just dislike her becaus eshe got in the way of Fry and leela. but now, i take leela's side on this, I don't trust Alesia either. If someone did to me what Alesia did to Fry I wouldn't keep dating/ liking/ whatever(to the possible extent if that mattered) with them. She seems like she has a deeper darker side to her...and it also does seem like fry brings that out....

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I wished the gun wasn't set to stun....

Oh, and on the homicide/ suicide thing, yes, it may show the crew, and that's what alot of teenagers/ people who do that think and why they do it. In most peoples' minds it would indeed seem to them it'd make the crew feel sorry and bad for what they did, but it still wouldn't help Leela. I think she's smart enough to know that.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #472 on: 12-03-2003 16:07 »

Of course she's smart enough to know that. If she ever were to do something like that it would be because she was sincerely broken and really wanted out. The crew feeling bad would be a secondary effect. One that might not even occur to her to consider.
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #473 on: 12-03-2003 16:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
On regards to Alesia and what I think of her, not that many would care, but I'll say anyway    tongue, I used to basically just dislike her becaus eshe got in the way of Fry and leela. but now, i take leela's side on this, I don't trust Alesia either. If someone did to me what Alesia did to Fry I wouldn't keep dating/ liking/ whatever(to the possible extent if that mattered) with them. She seems like she has a deeper darker side to her...and it also does seem like fry brings that out....

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I wished the gun wasn't set to stun....

Oooh! Hil, you nasty!  no no  wink

Actually, I'm curious as to whether there's anybody out there you would actually prefer Fry to be with Alesia? Probably not, but I'm curious to know.   smile
Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #474 on: 12-03-2003 18:33 »

Hehe, I was pretty much kidding with that.  wink

But, it would have been a  good plot twist, to see how Leela could get out of that one.  smile
Zoop
Crustacean
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« Reply #475 on: 12-03-2003 18:33 »

well I'm not really a Fry-Alesia shipper, but I think that, at this point of the story, nothing would be the same between Fry and Leela. I believe something's broken : Fry's ideal is now sullied with her hatred, for the first time Fry doesn't trust her and she knows it. In such conditions, it's hard to restore one's complete confidence.

Unless... Leela get rid of her hatred, get out of her silent isolation. Ok, easy to say, especially as other feelings must replace the former ones and her nevrotic silence be replaced by a trust in life, etc. A special event could triggered this evolution, since she mopes about what she lost all day.

she should show that she's capable of evolution, it's long for the others to accept.
maybe if she does something really heroic could help, and Alesia proving she is evil, too.

the Alesia-Fry relationship don't bother me that much. only if Alesia proves she is evil of course  big grin

ps : i wrote about an NDE as a shock treatment for Leela in my previous post, but it's too much ą la The Sting, even if both experiences would be very different according to specialists.

my 2 cents  big grin
once again, sorry for my English  frown
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #476 on: 12-03-2003 18:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif White:
Actually, I'm curious as to whether there's anybody out there you would actually prefer Fry to be with Alesia? Probably not, but I'm curious to know.    smile

Well... why not?

Actually, from what I'm seeing, Leela doesn't openly WANT Fry's attention (and I really dislike that pairing as it is, but you already know that), and Alesia is acting like an attention-starved puppy (and being quite a slut, exactly what Leela is in the Leela/Fry relationship's best moments  puke ). I'll check the box for 'neither pairing'. Maybe we can throw another random character into this 'triangle'? After all, a square is even more fun   tongue

Well, if it won't be 'no pairing', I'll settle with Fry/Leela. Better than Alesia being a crazed nymphomaniac for the sole purpose of one-upping Leela... end it with a sickeningly romantic cliched Disney ending I bet...
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #477 on: 12-03-2003 18:47 »

What, did like Disney bite you as a child or something? I sense anger. I mean come on, at the end of almost every Disney movie someone falls to their death, how can you not like that?!  big grin
Asylum-Fry

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #478 on: 12-03-2003 18:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
What, did like Disney bite you as a child or something? I sense anger. I mean come on, at the end of almost every Disney movie someone falls to their death, how can you not like that?!   big grin

  roll eyes Several reasonable reasons why Disney endings suck big-time:

1) Walt Disney was an anti-semite
2) The person "falling to their death" most usually turns out to be the "bad guy" of the movie
3) Disney rips off real fairy tales and makes them all have magical happy endings that turn them really dumb, and all the people in the movies usually look like Barbies
4) Disney butchered the Hercules myth of Greek mythology. UNFORGIVABLE!!!!   mad
5) Disney movies are ALWAYS good vs. evil. We all know who wins every time....

So there you have it. Disney endings, in my opinion, suck. So I suggest putting a twist on fanfic endings to avoid the predictable kind.
wu_konguk

Urban Legend
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« Reply #479 on: 12-03-2003 18:58 »

I dislike Disney for many of the same reasons (I mean come on the Hunchback of Notre Dame commited suicide at the end of the book).
I also prefer films where the lines of good and evil are far more blured (usually I have to look outside of America for these).
Things don't need a happy ending just a good one (ie Donnie Darko et all)
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