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MizPataki

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« on: 12-01-2002 16:52 »

Basically, if you're a reader, what do you like and what are your quibbles?  If you're a writer, what do you find are the joys and trials?
When I read, I love seeing how the author interprets what he or she thinks should/could happen on the show.  All lot of the writers are really, really talented and I love reading what ever new stuff they have out.  Even if it's not something I can see happening or would want to see, I appreciate it if it's well-written.  However, there are some people out there who need to work on their abilities.  If a story doesn't hold my attention and makes me scroll down for the ending, it probably won't be one of my favorites.
When it comes to writing, I love being able to create these situations that make sense, even if only to me.  No matter what, I enjoy myself, even if it's really really out of character, as most of my stuff usually is.  However, I get bored very easily when writing and tend to jump around from one topic to another.  I still haven't finished IDoL but I plan to.  I just didn't feel inspired after the season ended early, so I made the jump to Hey Arnold, writing song fics.  However, this didn't fulfill me, so I started writing a series that I never posted.  This was really hard because it was meant to be about finding his parents and I hadn't seen "The Journal" yet.  I then moved to Daria, where I wrote three episodes of a series but wasn't able to write the fourth, simply because I knew what would happen in the middle and the end, just not how to get there.  After some frustration, I saw "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas" in art class, which has been my fave movie since I was nine, but I hadn't seen it in a couple years.  Something clicked and I immediately envisioned a sequel.  I read someone else's sequel and thought, "OMG, this sucks.  I should write a rebuttal!" and my current project was born.  I plan on writing the end of IDoL during or after I write mt TNBC fic or as soon as we get to a regular season, (ie. a new ep each week).  I also plan on finishing my HA serial now that I've seen the Journal and getting back to my Daria fic once things get cleared off my plate.  I feel bad because I jump around so much.  I'm never content with just one subject.  Sometimes I think I should be a columnist because that way I'm always writing about something new.

Anyway, what are your feelings?  smile
ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
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« Reply #1 on: 12-01-2002 16:54 »

 
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Originally posted by MizPataki:

Anyway, what are your feelings?   smile

My attention span is too short.

Chump

Urban Legend
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« Reply #2 on: 12-01-2002 17:05 »

I skimmed your post... (not ZJ, I skipped that... j/k) and I see what you're saying.

I don't read many... well, pretty much any fanfiction. I read one full one, and only because it was funny (partly due to poor sentence structure and spelling and grammar). If you do a Futurama fanfic, MAKE IT FUNNY. Otherwise, there is no reason why I'd read it. Don't force a romance into the story. If you have any, make it subtle. Full blown romantic episodes are best left to the prfessionals... and they usually aren't that good anyway. Also, don't make Bender use skintube and meatbag and the like every sentence. Thats sooo season 1. If you've seen a current episode, you'll have noticed that he doesn't say that anymore. I start reading a fic, I see two or three of those, and I just stop reading. it sounds so forced, even if I make the voices in my head.

Thats about all.
Venus

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« Reply #3 on: 12-01-2002 21:49 »
« Last Edit on: 12-02-2002 00:00 »

i read fic all the time. Buffy mostly, cause the Futurama fics are few and far between. I've read most of the futurama fics and i don't really have any complaints. Other then when there badly written or out of charactor. If the crew act like how they would normally then i'll buy pretty much anything you throw at me.
   I really like the dramatic stories, like Flowers in the window or The Fugitive, or Relics.
It dosn't have to be full out comedy the whole way through for me to appreciate it, although i do like the funny fics, like everything from Kryten.
  The only things i'd like to change is the amount of badly written crap out there,(i shall name no names, cause that would be mean) and i'd love if new fics came out more often.

EDIT: i remembered some stuff i hate. Author insertion, crossovers and songfic. And i hate when people take straight characters and make them gay or take gay characters and make them straight. they are what they are, leave them alone!
and stuff i love: Romance
Chump

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« Reply #4 on: 12-01-2002 21:52 »

Heh, the authors should make recordings of their fanfics so we can listen to them instead of read them. Especially if they are the very long variety. Bonus points if you attempt the voices of the characters too.
Loki

Professor
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« Reply #5 on: 12-01-2002 22:25 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2002 22:25 »

Hate novels with sexy ninja babes with big breasts and tiny bras. As Andrzej Sapkowski said(Polish fantasy writer, my favorite fantasy writer) such novels are for losers.
I like novels which give me not only a fancy description of futuristic and fantasy worlds. Not only but also a deep inner sense. My favorite SF novels are also a bit psychological -philosophical novels. Reading any books that don't have any true sense is big waste of your time. The novel must give you a Thought otherwise it's a toilet paper.
Kryten

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« Reply #6 on: 12-01-2002 23:49 »

That's very intersting, but we're talking about fanfic.
Loki

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« Reply #7 on: 12-02-2002 01:43 »
« Last Edit on: 12-02-2002 01:43 »

What's the difference   tongue
Fanfic story must be judged at the same criteria either.   big grin

Yes, I misunderstood the topic… Kinda absent-minded today
So following simple rule “better shut up & let people believe that you’re idiot than say something and let people know that you are idiot” – I’ll shut up.  big grin
wu_konguk

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« Reply #8 on: 12-02-2002 09:41 »

As a writter I like to go down darker paths but I try to put emotion as well, I say try.
As a reader I like most stuff apart from self insertion, I prefer to read stories about the characters not the writter.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #9 on: 12-27-2002 02:49 »

One of the biggest blunders an amateur screenwriter/telewriter can make is to randomly change between a plot-driven story and a character-driven story.  Another blunder of fan-fictionists is the addition of a main character or the usurpation of one of the existing leads.  We all saw examples of this in both Melllvar's script and my own failed fanfic, Curse of the One Eyed Jacks (which I just revamped for posterity).
Zed 85

Space Pope
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« Reply #10 on: 12-27-2002 04:11 »

I try/am trying to go for humour, emotion and character development.
All at the same time.
Which is probably a bad thing to do.
Kazzahdrane

Starship Captain
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« Reply #11 on: 12-27-2002 14:41 »

I don't really look for character development. Frankly, I just want to be lured into thinkng that I have found an undiscovered script for Futurama. Just a fairly funny, clever, imaginative episode plot is fine for me. Some fan fics would work better as episodes than as just scripts, for example I think that Luck of the Fryish (great episode btw) would be boring and too weird as a fan fic, but as a fully made episode it works very well.

Funny Zoidberg lines always help to lighten the mood in a fanfic, remember his lack of medical knowledge, and you can find numerous points to put him in with a good one-liner. "Now there's a bird involved?" is a good example of a throwaway line that would make the reader laugh out loud and get them through the deeper part of a story (used sparingly of course).
Kill_All_Humans

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« Reply #12 on: 02-25-2003 09:28 »

Its all too long and too....well, i am in my pajamas
Kif White

Bending Unit
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« Reply #13 on: 02-25-2003 16:28 »

At the moment I'm trying for a dark, emotional story that focusses on both character and storyline, introduces a bunch of new characters and is inspired by little bits of other sci-fi that have impressed me over the years. I also want to add a little history and make it really large, both in scale and in length. There's a little romance, and the focus shifts between characters and locations as time goes on. A little mystery and violence as well, just to keep the reader interested. But I do get a feeling that it's perhaps lacking in some humour, so I'm going to try and make it funnier from now on as well.
Erdrik

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« Reply #14 on: 02-26-2003 00:47 »

I'm trying to write a good series, but after writing a fic I find that I'm not intrested enough to continue it.  tongue
After I finish part 2 of my current fic I'm going to try my hand at specificly writing a 9 part fic!!
3 non-romantic fics involving Amy, Bender, and someone else I haven't decided yet. Then 2 Romantic fics involving Fry/Leela(duh!) then 1 involving Amy. And finaly 3 more non-romantic fics.
I'm trying to get practice at writing Non-romantics, romantics, and then non-romantics after they've gotten together.

As a fanfic writer I try my best to keep the characters in character, and I don't like to make dramatic changes, unless I'm sure theymight actualy happen in the show.

As A reader, I look for pretty much the same thing as when I'm writing. Tho I'm much more forgiving as a reader. I hate it when writers write a character out of character, tho. errr...
*gets dizzy after reading last sentence*

Call me Erdrik

Boycott Fox!! Down with the Evil OverLords!!
LittleMiss

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« Reply #15 on: 02-26-2003 01:11 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by MizPataki:
Basically, if you're a reader, what do you like and what are your quibbles?  If you're a writer, what do you find are the joys and trials?
When I read, I love seeing how the author interprets what he or she thinks should/could happen on the show.  All lot of the writers are really, really talented and I love reading what ever new stuff they have out.  Even if it's not something I can see happening or would want to see, I appreciate it if it's well-written.  However, there are some people out there who need to work on their abilities.  If a story doesn't hold my attention and makes me scroll down for the ending, it probably won't be one of my favorites.
When it comes to writing, I love being able to create these situations that make sense, even if only to me.  No matter what, I enjoy myself, even if it's really really out of character, as most of my stuff usually is.  However, I get bored very easily when writing and tend to jump around from one topic to another.  I still haven't finished IDoL but I plan to.  I just didn't feel inspired after the season ended early, so I made the jump to Hey Arnold, writing song fics.  However, this didn't fulfill me, so I started writing a series that I never posted.  This was really hard because it was meant to be about finding his parents and I hadn't seen "The Journal" yet.  I then moved to Daria, where I wrote three episodes of a series but wasn't able to write the fourth, simply because I knew what would happen in the middle and the end, just not how to get there.  After some frustration, I saw "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas" in art class, which has been my fave movie since I was nine, but I hadn't seen it in a couple years.  Something clicked and I immediately envisioned a sequel.  I read someone else's sequel and thought, "OMG, this sucks.  I should write a rebuttal!" and my current project was born.  I plan on writing the end of IDoL during or after I write mt TNBC fic or as soon as we get to a regular season, (ie. a new ep each week).  I also plan on finishing my HA serial now that I've seen the Journal and getting back to my Daria fic once things get cleared off my plate.  I feel bad because I jump around so much.  I'm never content with just one subject.  Sometimes I think I should be a columnist because that way I'm always writing about something new.

Anyway, what are your feelings?  smile

WOW... you like all the same shows I do!  --Anyway, when I'm reading fanfics I like it a lot when people keep the characters in character, but maybe make them do something unexpected--something that the character would still do even if it's a little on the "what the hell?!" side.  Know what I'm saying?  Like for instance, we all know Bender as this beer-drinking, cigar-smoking, cleptomaniac robot, but in "I, Roomate" when he got depressed he threw down his beer and then there was the "A Flight to Remember" eppy where he didn't steal the Countess' bracelette.  So I like seeing the characters do stuff like that!  n___n  *Is confusing self*  Sorry, it's getting late.  :P

When I'm reading fanfics... I can't stand slash or w/e... It's not that I'm a homophobic, but I don't like seeing two of my favorite cartoon characters of the same sex involved with eachother... it just disturbs me.  Like Invader ZIM and Dib.  WTF.

I also like fanfics where people got the characters down just right!  n____n  There's a lot more, but I can't think straight right now, so I'm sorry if I wasn't making sense before.  :|  -Missy


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