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Jims

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« on: 07-01-2011 00:51 »

In my spare time, I've been dabbling in animation and been doing a couple of sketches here and there.  Recently, I did a tribute sketch to the silly time-travel in Bender's Big Score (with the help of voice work from some buddies at No Homers) and I thought you guys would enjoy it. big grin

(My apologies if this is in the wrong forum.  I wasn't sure where a fan video like this one would go.  I'm still finding my way around.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr95o3FSlsg

Bender's Big Score is a really great movie in general, not just as a "Futurama movie", and a lot of the fun in it is just how twisted and messed up they can make the plot.  It's just twisted enough to be "complex" but it's stays within its boundaries and doesn't cross into the realm of total confusion.  It's probably about as far as you could go... If they added just one more Fry or Bender, the whole house of cards would probably collapse.

It's kinda like the writers decided to cram the first two Back to the Future movies into one 90-minute flick.  And I love it for that.

Anyway, let me know what you think!  I'm still really new at this animation thing, so any constructive criticism would be great. smile
jeepdavetj

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« Reply #1 on: 07-01-2011 01:17 »

I lol'd hard. big grin
winna

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« Reply #2 on: 07-01-2011 02:55 »

I'll have to check it out.  You totally put it in the right forum though.  Cheers, mate! smile
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« Reply #3 on: 07-01-2011 05:36 »
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That was great. love the long pause after they tell him about the 4 Fry's.
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« Reply #4 on: 07-01-2011 05:58 »

Visual design is extremely bland, but the writing is good.
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« Reply #5 on: 07-01-2011 17:49 »

Visual design is extremely bland, but the writing is good.

Ignore him Jims, he's just an amazing artist who doesn't appreciate a noob's work.
winna

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« Reply #6 on: 07-01-2011 20:27 »

It's not about not appreciating it.  The animation itself was good, the movement and the mouths moving, but Freako is right... it could hypothetically be spruced up a bit design wise.  It's more about critical analysis and making better things.


If you think what just came out of my anus that slightly resembles a stick figure procreating with a horse is the best thing you ever saw, DannyJC13, then what motivators will I have to improve my art?

Anyways... I agree, the script was pretty funny, and I enjoyed it.  I thought the explanatory BBBS montage was a bit long, but everything else was great. smile
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« Reply #7 on: 07-01-2011 20:46 »

Oh for the love of fuck! I call someone's work, everyone comes a ragin', Freako calls someone's work, FUCK HE'S STILL COOL.
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« Reply #8 on: 07-01-2011 21:34 »

I haven't seen you critique anyone's work and then people call you out on it for no reason.  But I'd have probably said something about it.... just like I did this time.

Furthermore, my comment was less to detract from your opinions and postings, and to suggest to the creator of the piece that criticism can be a great thing.  I have no idea if the author feels otherwise, but I find that it's a common feeling to have when making a piece.
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« Reply #9 on: 07-02-2011 00:25 »

I wouldn't say what Freako did, but I would say the design was a little sparse. It's all in the wording... some more background detail, a little less length in the montage - offer suggestions when giving concrit. Give the concritee(?) something to work with.
Jims

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« Reply #10 on: 07-02-2011 00:37 »

Ah, you guys don't worry about me being offended or anything.  I admit, I'm not much of an artist and therefore tend to prefer overly simplistic character design.  The software I use is making it trickier to make the design more complex (like adding eyelids/different angles/whatever), so as I do more of them, I'll keep adding to the models.

The skit was very "stand around and talk" so I was desperately trying to get some kind of action (hence Yellow jumping around all the time).  The backgrounds are laughably minimal still, but hey, getting perspective right this time is enough for me (for now).  That pan into the other room at the end took bloody forever because I couldn't figure out how the parallax would work.  One of those things you take for granted when you're just watching a cartoon.

I'm more of a writer anyway, so I'm very happy you enjoyed the dialogue.  I'm writing another skit based on "Jurassic Bark" right now. big grin

(Yeah and that montage does drag for maybe 10-20 secs too long.  That was probably me loving that silly song too much.)
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« Reply #11 on: 07-02-2011 07:47 »

Ey, if I don't say anything how would he know he had to improve?
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« Reply #12 on: 07-02-2011 08:48 »

How is that supposed to help him improve by asking random questions that don't pertain to his art, Freako?  Good job, jerk!
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« Reply #13 on: 07-02-2011 09:00 »

I thought it was pretty good for a one-man masterpiece (voice talents and music aside). However, the music was lame and slideshows show laziness on your part to not edit clips for a summary (though I understand the impending legal issues that would follow).

I would like to note that you brought up a good point that I don't think anybody brought up (or at least that I could recall)... where was Nibbler during all of this? I mean, he couldn't have just *vanished* per say, well, at least his people don't have the power of time-travel. And those scenes were just a few minutes after Fry from the past with no exposure to the future as of yet just tumbled into the cryogenic tube.

Just when I was getting comfortable with "Bender's Big Score" after over four years of trauma, you've brought up the arguments again that remind me why it just doesn't flow with me. If they were really keeping up with the semi-logic of time travel, assuming that this takes place in a linear timeline, wouldn't Fry who was pushing Bender into a freezing tube would've noticed himself scarfing down pizza? Then again, I'm 103% sure this has already been discussed in-detail and most people have either made sense of it or called it "bunk" (like I did).

Oh, wait, this is a fanart thread. But still, I did enjoy your presentation, and in the end, isn't that all that really matters?
Jims

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« Reply #14 on: 07-02-2011 17:27 »

I thought it was pretty good for a one-man masterpiece (voice talents and music aside). However, the music was lame and slideshows show laziness on your part to not edit clips for a summary (though I understand the impending legal issues that would follow).

Awww, I think the music is fun.  I was trying to find the most silly music I could to underline how ridiculous things got.  I was thinking about just putting the Futurama theme on there but I didn't want to risk it taken down by FOX (especially after working on it for so long!). 

You got me on the clip editing, though.  That was the last thing I did and by then I just wanted the thing to be over.

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Just when I was getting comfortable with "Bender's Big Score" after over four years of trauma, you've brought up the arguments again that remind me why it just doesn't flow with me. If they were really keeping up with the semi-logic of time travel, assuming that this takes place in a linear timeline, wouldn't Fry who was pushing Bender into a freezing tube would've noticed himself scarfing down pizza? Then again, I'm 103% sure this has already been discussed in-detail and most people have either made sense of it or called it "bunk" (like I did).

The Nibbler stuff doesn't bother me too much because you could reason that he just left after pushing Fry into the tube (and before Fry/Bender came back).  Or he could have just hidden in the trash can the whole time.

But yeah, the thing is still a mess.  While making this, I had never considered why the 3rd Fry (the Lars one) didn't go back for pizza before... It seemed like he should've just kept looping around and going back for pizza since the Frys should always do the same thing.  But then when researching, I noticed that he saw the 2nd Fry eating already, so that must be the reason why he didn't think to do that.

But now you have a situation where Fry does and does not time travel when he gets back to Panucci's.  It's a similar problem with the Benders, how the First Bender drinks a lot (and needs to go to the bathroom) but the Second Bender doesn't drink anything.

Maybe the solution is that every time they time travel on the show, they're just going a billion years into the future, like in "The Late Phillip J Fry"?
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« Reply #15 on: 07-06-2011 05:45 »

Regarding some of the time duplicates being the same person and some being different people: they're all the same people operating 4th dimensionally.
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« Reply #16 on: 07-07-2011 08:51 »

I liked the video very much! The animation isn't really sophisticated, but it's simple and effective, and the dialogue was funny enough that I didn't think it was much of an issue.
Also, cyber_turnip's right about the characters operating 4th dimensionally. Not a huge deal, though.
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« Reply #17 on: 07-08-2011 13:02 »

Regarding some of the time duplicates being the same person and some being different people: they're all the same people operating 4th dimensionally.

Actually, I think that's 5th dimensionally at least.  Because it isn't all the possible instances of the individual with respect to time, it's all the possible instances of possible instances with regards to time and all possible scenarios.

So the distinction of them being different people is that they do not all occupy the same possible timeline.  As an example... if you took me, and you took me from 13 minutes ago, both of those mes would be said to be the same me as perceived from different angles 4th dimensionally... so long as both mes traverse the same timeline..... but if you took those two mes and then had a third me standing 17.3 meters away from me from 13 minutes ago... that would be an instance of me seen 5th dimensionally, as it does not follow the same timeline as the previous 2.
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« Reply #18 on: 07-08-2011 18:51 »

Very good point.
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