And now for something less good - more coldangel_1 pics

[Reply #240 on:]

Ha. Jeez. Wish I looked that good while I was sweating and..dismantling..mechanical things...? Because I do that all the time. 
Heh. You done good, soldier.

[Reply #241 on:]

Now THAT was scary...
you posted just the second i was about to
(im scared)
Great drawings Coldangel!

[Reply #242 on:]

Hehe, thanks.

For those who missed it last nipple, here it is again... did I say 'nipple'? I meant page... haha, that was a silly nipple... I mean, mistake...

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
"Well, the cooling system's totally shot - there's no way I can fix it until we get back to Earth.
I guess we're just going to have to put up with the heat...
Fry, why are you staring at me like that?"

[Reply #243 on:]

You and your nipples...

[Reply #244 on:]

Hey, good work. I am still to get 100% used to your style, but you are consistent. You should at least work as illustrator for fic magazines for a start or something related to what you like to do! You must do something to put your foot in the door. Remember what we talked about a while ago: going head-on to the wall full speed may prevent you from seeing a tiny unlocked door... But irrespective of that, keep going, this is good stuff.

[EDIT] Nipples huh? Well you do need them. E.g. my Landcruiser has grease nipples all around   

[Reply #245 on:]

I have no idea where to even begin. I can't think of any potential employer where I could have a practical chance of applying this "talent" to make a buck.

[Reply #246 on:]

Graphic design and advertising agencies would probably be interested- illustrators are well sought after    Put together a portfolio and go knock on some well chosen doors, that's how most designers/artists/photographers get their foot in the door.

[Reply #247 on:]

What's a portfolio?

[Reply #248 on:]

It's one of those things they get kids to do for the end of the school year, so they can show their parents how brilliant they are at only the things they've put in the portfolio.

Only for a professional porfolio you put what you're good at for the job you want...and you attach a box of chocolates and maybe sexual favours.

[Reply #249 on:]

I have no idea how to go about that.

[Reply #250 on:]

great picture 

[Reply #251 on:]

Nice, coldangel. The line that went with it make me chuckle. I can totally imagine them saying/doing that. 

Hmm...Getting ideas about going into the artistic business, eh? I think you'd do really well if you went and applied for a job. Hell, if I were an older, to-be-taken-seriously author, I'd practically beg that you be the illustrator. I mean, the work you've done for my story really shows that, no matter how unfamiliar the situation (i.e drawing characters that have never really been seen before) you still manage to reate something beautiful. You don't need an already existing image of something to capture its essence down-pat.
Not gushing, just telling the truth.

As for the portfolio-I'm not really a reliable source of information, but I imagine that means you put together some of your best artwork, in all feilds (anime, realistic, your own style, etc.) and really show off what you got. If the employers find that you may have potential, they might hire you. Or something. Don't 100% trust me, I could be wrong. But that's what I'd assume.

And hey, if you do get around to doing something like that, then I'm sure you'd be succesful. The pictures you put here are amazing, yet nobody asked you to draw them that well or to put that much effort into them. Imagine the possibilite if you really went all-out to impres these people. 
Good luck to ya if you do, eh. You have my full support.

[Reply #252 on:]

I just saw something incredibly cool! A big xxxxxxxxxxxxxx that xxxxxxxx with every xxxxxxxxx, plus some new xxxx that were so beautiful I fell to my knees and cried.

I love this picture.

I love the way your style lets you do Leela's hair, her expression looks perfect, the localised blurring works well, and the level of detailing in the backdrop and foreground shows a lot of really worthwhile effort.

Sweaty sexy women are always very nice, but more importantly, I think, you've got an effective way to depict perspiration here; it works very well, and I'd like to steal it 

I'm underqualified to suggest any amendments, but if you'd like an unsolicited opinion, read on; if not, stop here 

Her torso, particularly shoulders, might have used an extra drafting; the proportions aren't internally consistent. Hip to waist is good, for example, but hip to waist to shoulder shows that her shoulders are too broad. Her boobs are... well, imagine her with her tank top off - they'd be a rather funny shape...! Wristlojackometer looks a little bit hurried - it usually looks best if it ends like a cuff,right at the beginning of the hand, rather than showing that much wrist.

The lining would suit a pencil sketch, but they're too wiggly to fit a full colour version. I don't think you like or enjoy lining by pc programme, but perhaps you could consider an extra stage of drawing before you scan - have you considered using a lightbox to create a 'fair copy' of your picture to scan and colour, for example?

Finally, the steam - again, the effect looks ok, but maybe it's a little underdeployed? If you're limiting it to one area rather than spreading it around the place, perhaps you could show a complex control panel along the side of the machine it's concealing - that'd give the viewer an idea of how thick it is; the more detail you can see through it, the 'thinner' the steam is. At the moment it looks very thick indeed, dirty and polluted, because it's hiding everything behind it; that image doesn't gel easily with the character who's the focus of the pic!

Again, I really like the pic. You said earlier you've had a wee worry about the art-ing, but any suggestions I've made are really only technical fixes - they're achieved only by adding extra time to the creation of the pic, not extra skill or experience. You do really good pics that I think you'd appreciate even more if you slowed down just a little and took more time over each - it'd leave them looking much crisper, tighter.

I shouldn't get on my high horse, should I?

[Reply #253 on:]

Ya- a portfolio is just a collection of a diverse range of your best work- and it needs to be large enough that you can pick and choose what you put into it depending on what company you're going to speak to 

Like my photography portfolio contains a range of portrait, landscape, abstract, architectural, equine, sports etc.  If I was going to show it to a potential client who wants me to take photos of a new building I would throw in mainly architectural shots and maybe some landscapes.  I may even throw in some examples of graphic design that I have done.

I seriously think that you wouldn't have much trouble finding work if you do decide to go down that path.

[Reply #254 on:]

Damn you cold_angel, I always told myself I wouldn't masturbate to a cartoon, but you had to go ahead and ruin it for me, and by the way, nice job on the artwork

[Reply #255 on:]

Thanks all for your compliments and suggestions.
Making a portfolio sounds like a pain in the arse... jeez, I'd have to get a folder and everything - why don't I just bleed into a bucket while I'm at it? 
haha. I'm a lazy, lazy man.


Marcus, I do appreciate the constructive critique.
Re: the human form - the imperfections are due to me naver having had any formal training. I just freehand lines from scratch - no framework grid things or any arty stuff like that, I don't know how to do things properly, I just throw shit together and if it looks okay then I go with it. I'd do a University course or something, but with my country's current government those are reserved for scumfuck class-enemies with rich parents... but the Revolution approaches.
I don't know what a 'light box' or a 'fair copy' is, and I'm still not really 100% proficient with the software that was so generously provided  .

[Reply #256 on:]

<is relieved at lack of offence taken>

No worries; I wish I had some formal training too! I just visualise the picture in my head and superimpose it on the paper - for me, drawing is like tracing the image in my head. When it works it's great, when it's oor complex it looks... different... Dunno if you do something similar 

A light box at its simplest is a box (... no shit, Marcus...) strong enough to lean on with a slightly opaque plastic lid. Inside is a fairly strong lightsource. It lets you put even a smugedy, scrappy rough on it and accurately trace a beautifully precise fair copy ready for display/ scanning/ whatever. Photographic supply shops sell them cheaply, or you can make one easily enough.

It does need a steady hand and patience... which is why I lazily pc things instead  ... but it can give quite nice clean lines ready for colouration.

Just an idea, what I used to do. You know what'd work for you 

[Reply #257 on:]

That's interesting. Hmm. I've never heard of such a thing. Well, I plan to get some more professional tools when I'm back to work with money in my pocket, so I'll keep an eye out.
What I've been doing is just hand-inking over my pencil lines in black, then scanning and putting the pic into black & white format, which eliminates the pencil scribble, leaving the darker ink lines, and enables me to fill areas with the paint bucket tool, etc etc.

[Reply #258 on:]

Sweet, you might actually do it! Ha, I wish you luck, then. As for drawing things fro scratch-well, the only advice I can give you is do try to draw with a framework to your art. I go to a high school that specifies in the arts, and when I draw (although it doesn't look it) I try to draw everything in simple shapess before I outine. I was tought to use a red pencil for main body structures, and from there on a light blue to draw the basic shapes of smaller details. (Fingers, toes, etc.)It helps make sure that everything is evenly porportioned before you really begin to draw. 

[Reply #259 on:]

Yeah, I don't know how to do that, so I won't. I don't know what the 'framework' is supposed to look like, and besides I don't really have the patience to get all fancy about something I'm not being paid for.
I'm bemused by the multiple colours though... how do you get rid of them afterwards? Colour pencils don't come off easily with erasers.

Anyways, I'm probably gonna stop posting here soon. I've been accused of being a 'spammer', so I have the feeling I'm not welcome. Doesn't much matter, I'm getting a little tired of drawing Futurama stuff. The obsession has worn off a little.

[Reply #260 on:]

That'd be a great shame. You must know you're _not_ a spammer, that no one who's actually talked to you thinks you're one, and that the feeble droolings of a few idiots or fossilised 'we're the _old_ guard' doesn't represent the feelings of the site as a whole.

On the other hand... if you're wanting to slow down a little... that's never a problem  I've been at peel for nearly 6 years, and I've only got about, what, 600 posts? I just come and go as I please.

If you want to stop posting x amount, or at all for a while, you can - dinnae need to come up with an excuse! Everyone gets bored/feels trapped/changes their reationship with a site/interest, esp. on a forum! But it doesn't mean you'll always feel like that 

Do what you want, not what pricks want, and remember that a good break from something can reignite an interest in it 

[Reply #261 on:]

I hate to lose ya, coldy.  You've become something of a big hit here and at the other site - the really, really filthy one (you know the one that I mean).  You have Wu offering to colorize some of your sketches, you have Marcus and El_Man giving you little hints on how to make a good pic look like a great pic.

Still, you have your employment coming back and I'm sure that there are other things to keep you busy, so I'll wish you the best of luck if you disappear - just know that I and a lot of others have really enjoyed your time here - your fics, art and debates.

As for the 'spammer' complaint, some people just like to bitch.  Ignore them.  You're contributing to the site, unlike 90% of the users.

[Reply #262 on:]

Aw, I hate to see you go, too. Heh, I know how you feel, though. The obsession kinda gets old after a while. But good luck with the artwork, matey. Perhaps you could try again to get a deviantart account? I saw that you posted your stories already on www.fanfiction.com,  good for you. We'll miss ya. 

As for easing the colored pencils, you can either press really gently or buy some specially-made crap for cheap at art stores. They come with their own eraser (Kinda like those pens you can erase now.)And the body framework is nothing fancy-you just draw, for example, a red circle to get a rough estimate of the size of the character's head. Nothing much too it, once you get the hang of it.

[Reply #263 on:]

I did get a deviantart account.
You can have a look here:
 http://coldangel1.deviantart.com/gallery/

[Reply #264 on:]

Those are all amazing, I'm particularly fond of the Futurama Godzilla drawing

Well, best of luck with everything, you definitely deserve it

[Reply #265 on:]

Who the hell called you a spammer??

[Reply #266 on:]

Some cunt. Who cares? The world can go fuck itself.
I'm drunk. It's damn hot here.

[Reply #267 on:]

Bye Coldangel! I know I have probably already said this, but you are a fantastic artist and I hope that you remember this site and come back one day 
oh yeah, i'm going to complain to ten!!! 

[Reply #268 on:]

Misgivings aside, here's some shitty art:



Some motherless turd-eaters commented that my personal 'anime' style is generally unpopular, so here I am copying another man's style. Poorly too, 'cause if it ain't mine then I won't make much effort. Plus I'm still drunk - 18 cans of over-proofed rum & coke.

Ups and downs of a relationship. The third pic, on the right, is how I feel right now after having been kinda dumped.
Ah, fuck everyone in the world to hell. I'm about one screw-up away from opening my damn wrists. Fortunately there's really little else that could possibly go wrong in my life at this point, except an unscheduled end to said life, which wouldn't be entirely unwelcome.
I really just hate every person on the planet right now...

Good night.

[Reply #269 on:]

One, Although the last three pics are good, your styles better, and don't let some cunt tell you that your styles not popular, look at the responses on this thread, people love you Coldy!

Rwo, If anyone is stupid enough to dump you then they're not worth you Coldy, and I know you probably feel crap right now but the pain will pass, trust me on this one.

Three, If you ever threaten to open your wrists again I'm gonna catch the next flight to Australia and find you! It might feel good at first but in the long run it makes you feel worse, and if you went then I know I'd miss you and I'm sure loads of others would too! And I don't give a damn that you say you hate me because I got use to people hating me a long time ago and I even though I'm younger than you I will do everything in my limited power to help you get yourself back together.

[Reply #270 on:]

If there is one lesson that life has taught me repeatidly is that all communites have jerks within them. And dispite how many people say nice things to you, you are always more likely to remember the nasty things.

Personally I like to see different peoples takes on characters. While the orginal style is good for what it is, it does not really allow for the more dynamic action that certainly takes place in your pictures.

VIVA LA DIFFERENCE

Also looking at you DA page and some of your comments in the anime thread. Might be fun to see your take on the Futurama characters in Bebop style costumes (Leela as Faye....that's just a nice thought)

[Reply #271 on:]

jle - enough, don't worry. It's done with. It was may fault, not her's. It's always my fault. Forget it.

Wu - great idea. Someone has done Fry & Leela as Spike & Julia before, though Leels in Faye's outfit would be hot. I'd do it, but I don't really have any enthusiasm left.

[Reply #272 on:]

Aww...

I'm sad to see you go, Coldy. 
I understand all of us are subject to the demands of real life, still, I'll miss your art, your fic's, and you.

Don't let anyone convince you your artistic style is anything but excellent!

Good luck, Godspeed, don't be a stranger!
Well... don't be any more strange! 

[Reply #273 on:]

Coldy , we love you man

[Reply #274 on:]

Ugh. Don't give me that 'love' crap. It's more trouble than it's worth.

[Reply #275 on:]

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Ugh. Don't give me that 'love' crap. It's more trouble than it's worth.

I find that, generally, the benefits are worth the risks, but your mileage may vary. [*Shrug*]

[Reply #276 on:]

guess whos back, back again
after a long time of not having the time to post, i've figured out that i haven't had time to post
On topic
coldangel, everything you do is art, awesome art
theres no one here that doesn't like it
if there is i'd like to etch my name into their skull with a rusty chisel...

[Reply #277 on:]

OK let me just say;

Your style of art is better. Period. Whomever says otherwise is... dumber than a drunk Fry...
If you do happen to leave you will be missed by all other than those sad losers who called you a spammer.
Whomever dumped you, forget about them, they ain't worth the trouble.

n1f out. 

[Reply #278 on:]

No need to drag my drunken rantings on forever, please. Just ignore.

[Reply #279 on:]

Yeah dude, it's not like I really know anyone on this site, but it would suck to see you go. Every topic pertaining to Futurama has apparently been beaten to death a long time ago so the main draw of this site for me is the creative aspect of it. You really contribute to that side and it's stories and pics like yours that got me interested in the first place.

And forget whatever anyone else says about your art. Do it for you. Anything else and you've lost your sincerity.