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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Most of that list sucks, but I guess at least it's not all bad...
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Lurrr
Professor
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I'm adding this to my ten worst 'Top 200' list.
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fryfanSpyOrama
Urban Legend
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« Reply #8 on: 07-02-2004 19:18 »
« Last Edit on: 07-02-2004 19:18 »
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Originally posted by BendingUnit4000: The name of that list is misleading, how do the likes of Albert Einstein, and Sigmund Freud have any relevance to the pop culture? Also, why do Tom Cruise, Pamela Anderson, Oprah Winfrey and The Osbournes get higher billing than Hitchcock, Bob Hope, and Charlie Chaplan?
Well, it's a top <insert number here> list, obviously there's going to be large amounts of atrocities. I think the reason for Einstein and Freud on the list is that they are made fun of all the time. Einstein for his hair do for example. And remember Freud was made fun of in the movie, Bill and Ted Excellent adventure. Einstein has always been made fun of when any of our favorite TV characters becomes a genius. Plucky pretended to be Einstein on an episode of Tiny Toons. His theory of relativity is referenced all the time on TV. When a character has to seek therapy and the doctor they meet has an accent, that doctor is parodying Freud. "Freud" has appeared on shows like Bewitched, Sabrina, or the cartoon Beetlejuice. I think that is the reason for those two on the list.
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Mr. Potter
Professor
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: 126. Charlie Chaplin 15. Jennifer Lopez
What a wonderful world.
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Shaucker
Professor
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How the HELL did the Osbournes beat Batman, Neil Armstrong, and Marilyn Monroe? Who votes on this shit?
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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When looking at this list, you have to remember that all it is is a list of various pop-culture icons of now and the recent past. Nothing more, nothing less. Its not a list of things that are good neccasarily or that the list makers like. Its just a list of what they feel are the most prominent pop-culture icons, and by that token it is mostly very accurate. People above complain about the inclusion of people like Oprah and Dr. Phil, and while I'm not exactly fans of either of them, they fit the criteria and it would be a mistake to not have them be there. Its also not fair to complain about the lack of Futurama characters; much as I love the show, it never hit it big enough to be worth inclusion. Perhaps if it gains a big enough cult base like Star Trek did, but not now.
There are some glaring ommisions mind you. For one, there's no Star Wars, which I would think would need to be in the top fifty at least. And there are other small problems, like the lack of any video game characters (given the prominence of video games in our culture now). But it would be hard to come up with a completely accurate list considering all the icons that need to be considered.
Anyways, Evan is correct. While I just defended the list a little, its just a list. It serves no particular purpose other then to catalogue these various icons, and isn't something to dwell on. Read the list out of curiousity, and then move on with your life.
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fryfanSpyOrama
Urban Legend
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« Reply #19 on: 07-05-2004 03:01 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2004 03:01 »
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DotheBartman you are right about a few things.
Futurama lack of hitting it big, can be blamed on FOX. However, Star Wars is mentioned on list in the form of Harrison Ford, (Han Solo and Indy.)
As for video games characters, I think characters like Pac-man or Mario would be top contenders.
Also, I think lists like this do serve one purpose. It allows us to complain, that is a given, but it gets us to admire the things we like even more. The fact that James Bond is not on the list, made me appreciate on just how big James Bond is and his impact on pop culture. Lists have a habit on doing this. Sometimes I think that VH1 does lousy list on purpose just so we fans can like what we like even more. Appreciate what is not mention even more. It just like when I learn that a show like KOTH or Simpsons gets renewed by FOX, but they don't renew Futurama, it makes me like Futurama even more.
Of course, I'm not going to lose sleep that James Bond is not in the list, and I'm sure others feel the same about their icons not being the list either.
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