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PEE Poll: Best Tim Burton movie
Pee Wee's Big Adventure   -5 (16.7%)
Beetlejuice   -3 (10%)
Batman   -2 (6.7%)
Edward Scissorhands   -3 (10%)
Batman Returns   -1 (3.3%)
The Nightmare Before Christmas   -8 (26.7%)
Mars Attacks   -1 (3.3%)
Ed Wood   -5 (16.7%)
Sleepy Hollow   -1 (3.3%)
Big Fish   -1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30

Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« on: 06-22-2004 19:21 »

I'm torn between Batman, Ed Wood and Nightmare Before Christmas.

I didn't include Planet of the Apes because only a crazed idiot who's opinions don't matter would vote for it.
Coop

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« Reply #1 on: 06-22-2004 19:46 »

I voted Edward Scissorhands. Of the ones I've seen, that's the best one. I really didn't like TNBC.

Is he supposed to be doing a new Willy Wonka? Or was that just a rumor?


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alenacat
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« Reply #2 on: 06-22-2004 20:14 »

beetlejuice! it's just so indiviudalistic and the most humourous. Though I haven't seen Ed Wood or Big Fish yet and have heard good things.
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #3 on: 06-22-2004 21:10 »

He didn't directed Nightmare Before Christmas, just produced it and created the characters, but to tell the truth the movie is pure Burton.

I'm not too sure which is the best one. I'm torn between Ed Wood and Ed Scissorhands.

 
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Is he supposed to be doing a new Willy Wonka? Or was that just a rumor?

It's not a rumour. He has been casting the parts this past months and will begin shooting soon. Johnny Depp will play Willy Wonka.

He's also producing another stop motion animated movie called The Bride's Corpse.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #4 on: 06-22-2004 21:22 »

Pee Wee's Big Adventure. That movie was fantastic.
canned eggs

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« Reply #5 on: 06-22-2004 21:43 »

I concur on Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  That movie rocked.  As for Willy Wonka, I think Tim Burton should just direct a move based on everything Roald Dahl ever wrote.  He has a perfectly matching sensibility.  I would love to se Tim Burton's The Twits, or Tim Burton's BFG.  Hey, who directed that claymation James and the Giant Peach?  Was that him?  No, that was Selick.  But didn't Tim Burton produce it or something?

Speaking of Henry Selick, I hear he's directing a treatment of Neil Gaiman's Coraline.  Anyone know if Tim's involved in that one?  That could be something to see.
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« Reply #6 on: 06-22-2004 22:24 »

I think Mars Attacks! was Tim Burton's best movie. I think it had great humor(very dark humor) and at the time, great special effects. Danny Elfman's score is brilliant and is still in my head to this day. All in all a very good movie and Tim's best.

Now, if only Planet of the apes was as brilliant.
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« Reply #7 on: 06-22-2004 22:31 »

I've seen all those, and I'm voting for Edward Scissorhands. Personally I liked it better than the others. Have there been and Burton not scored be Elfman?
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #8 on: 06-22-2004 23:16 »

 
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Hey, who directed that claymation James and the Giant Peach? Was that him? No, that was Selick. But didn't Tim Burton produce it or something?

I believe he produced it.

 
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I hear he's directing a treatment of Neil Gaiman's Coraline. Anyone know if Tim's involved in that one?

No, Tim's not involved in Coraline

 
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Have there been and Burton not scored be Elfman?

If your question was that if there is a Burton's movie not scored by Elfman then yes, Howard Shore scored Ed Wood.
newhook_1

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« Reply #9 on: 06-22-2004 23:47 »

Yeah that's what I ment. Jeez, what was I smoking when I typed that?
EvilLunch

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« Reply #10 on: 06-23-2004 00:59 »

It's "The Corpse Bride", and I had to choose Ed Wood because who doesn't love Johnny Depp in a dress? Except for the Batmen[Never a big fan], I love every single film up there. Big Fish was pretty damn good!
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #11 on: 06-23-2004 01:17 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
It's "The Corpse Bride"

Damn! I always confuse these names.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #12 on: 06-23-2004 01:43 »
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Why isn't Planet of the Apes, on the list?

Ed Wood and Mars Attacks were some of his flops.

Mars Attack has its funny moment, but I hardly get into it like his other films.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #13 on: 06-23-2004 01:53 »

Planet of the Apes isn't included because
 
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only a crazed idiot who's opinions don't matter would vote for it.

Which is a sentiment I share.  big grin
David A

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« Reply #14 on: 06-23-2004 02:03 »

I'm going to have to say Pee-wee's Big Adventure.  It's a great movie.  It's also one of the few things in which E.G. Daily actually appears on screen, instead of just providing the voice of an animated character.

As for Willy Wonka, all I have to say is this: Remakes suck, and they suck especially hard when Tim Burton is involved.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #15 on: 06-23-2004 02:24 »

Ed Wood? A flop? Maybe financially, but comparing it to Planet of the Apes infuriates me!
POTA fills me with unease about another remake.. But I'm still cautiously optimistic...
Tweek

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« Reply #16 on: 06-23-2004 10:38 »

I voted for The Nightmare Before Christmas although I think all his stuff is great, that which I've seen anyway  smile
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #17 on: 06-23-2004 11:09 »

Apparently he made a surfing movie in 1982 called Luau. Anyone seen it?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #18 on: 06-23-2004 13:18 »

It's almost a tie between Edward Scissorhands, and The Nightmare Before Christmas for me. If it wasn't for Nightmares constant songs, it'd have easily won it for me, but there's just too damn many... so that brings it down a bit. I think I'll still go with it though, because it's so cloolsome anyway, all the designs and stuff  cool...

I look foward to his new; The Corpses Bride, or whatever it is...
Impossible

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« Reply #19 on: 06-23-2004 13:40 »

Looking at that list, it turns out that I'm a fan of Burton's films  wink Pee-Wee's Big Adventure is an awesome film! The Nightmare Before Christmas has fantastic animation in it, but maybe that's because I like stop-motion animation.

I'll go with Edward Scissorhands, because I love it and I grew up on that film  big grin
Mallzie

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« Reply #20 on: 06-23-2004 16:23 »

So...hard....to choose. The Nightmare Before Christmas oozes with all the great Burtonisims (Kind of creepy, oddly stylish, witty entertainment), but, as mentioned, the songs tend to get a little irksome. It wouldn't be so bad if fewer and a little less repetitive (Though I have to say I'm a fan of the Oogie Boogie song). I am sort of sad about on change they made in the editing process aswell:

 

But even so it's hard to find any tremendous fault in this movie.


What can I say about Pee Wee's Big Adventure?Well it's:

- A lovely piece of nastolgic family entertainment (depending on what kind of family you come from)

- At least 1 000 000X better than the bile inducing Big Top Peewee   puke
(Not directed by Tim Burton)

- More of that good old fashion TB creepyness

- Peewee is likely the 80's equivalent of Spongebob Squarepants (aside from perhaps Rodger Rabit, though I guess he really represents the 30's...I think...)

And as for the rest...

Batman- Okay, not that great...I liked Jack Nicolson as The Joker

Batman Returns- I'm actually pretty fond of this movie (though I dread the impending Catwoman spin-off/bastardization). If not for the slightly sliker delivery, better developed Romeo and Julietesq sub-plot, Danny DeVito's Panguin, or the subtext of male/female equality, then for these two words alone: CHRISTOPHER WALKIN

Beetlejuice- A classic movie. The dinner scene alone is priceless. I loved this movie so much as a kid that I got my grandma to give me a talking BJ doll for my birthday (which I recoiled from in terror upon unwraping it. Truely freaky to look at, plus it's head spins around).

Edward Scisorhands- It's such a sweet movie. Kudos to the ever sw'awesome Johnny Depp. You know it's good when it can make you laugh and also put a tear in your eye.

Ed Wood- I haven't seen it. I'm still waiting on that acursed dvd that was suposed to have come out in february.

Mars Attacks- *Shudder* I neither "got" nor enjoyed this movie. Then again it's been a while since I've seen it, maybe I should give the twisted little thing another chance.

Sleepy Hollow- Sw'awsome visually, Johnny Depp acting like a little school girl, decapitations and lot's of other fun stuff. I didn't really buy all the romantic stuff, but I enjoyed the rest. PLUS WE GET TO SEE CHRISTOPHER WALKIN! (Serriosly, the man's a god. He and Johnny should join forces and rule the acting universe)

Planet of the Apes- A big let down. 'Nuff said.

Big Fish- Awww! I really like this movie!  love  So sweet, so sad, and the fantasy and the visualls, and the Ewan McGragor, and the......

*experiences joy overload at reminising about Tim Burton films and uses last ounce of strangth to submit post*
boingo2000

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« Reply #21 on: 06-23-2004 16:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
If it wasn't for Nightmares constant songs, it'd have easily won it for me, but there's just too damn many... so that brings it down a bit.

You DARE badmouth Danny Elfman's brilliant songs?  For this you must pay!

*Sends Clowns of Death after Otis.*  (ETA: 50 years)

Anyway, Ed Wood is far and away my favourite Burton movie.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #22 on: 06-23-2004 17:03 »

Out of the ones I have scene I will go for Beetlejuice.
catindisguise

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« Reply #23 on: 06-23-2004 17:14 »

Tim Burton is some sort of god monster. His films are great!  big grin

I can't pick because I haven't seen most of them, but the ones I have seen (Edward Sissorhands, Beetlejuice, Nightmare before Christmas and Big Fish) are all amazing.   love

I can't wait for Willy Wonka. He and Johnny Depp work really well together.
3/4 of a Jesus

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« Reply #24 on: 06-23-2004 17:34 »

I'm gonna be an individual and say, BIG FISH. It was a wonderful movie, it made me cry in the movie theater (and that's a huge achievement). It was just a wonderful story, and it even had some funny parts ("Ever hear of involuntary servitude?" "No." "You're hired!" ). I currently have the DVD.  love
Tied for a close second would be Nightmare before Christmas and Edward Scissorhands... actually, Eddie would get second and NBC a close third. Yup. That's better.
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« Reply #25 on: 06-23-2004 19:05 »

Batman and Sleepy Hollow!
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #26 on: 06-23-2004 21:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr Fuzzywuvems:
I didn't include Planet of the Apes because only a crazed idiot who's opinions don't matter would vote for it.

Still, there is a Nightmare Before Christmas option in the poll and that wasn't even directed by him. I think the idea of Planet of the Apes is very Burton-esque, it just failed in its execution. The idea of a different person among "normal" people can be seen in almost every Burton movie, and Planet of the Apes fits in this group if you consider that the apes were normal and the human wwas the abnormal.
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« Reply #27 on: 06-23-2004 23:01 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:

As for Willy Wonka, all I have to say is this: Remakes suck, and they suck especially hard when Tim Burton is involved.

That needs repeating. Remakes are so unecessary.

I'll vote for Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  It's a funny movie that becomes even funnier if you think about Paul Reubens jackin' it in a porn movie theater.

I liked what I've seen of The Nightmare Before Christmas, but I still haven't seen it all the way through. Beetle Juice and Sleepy Hollow are good films as well.  I haven't seen any of the others.

Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #28 on: 06-24-2004 14:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr. Potter:
 Still, there is a Nightmare Before Christmas option in the poll and that wasn't even directed by him.

It's a Best Tim Burton movie poll not a Best Film directed by Tim Burton poll. The movies full name is Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas so I think it's fair to say that it's a Tim Burton Movie.
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« Reply #29 on: 06-24-2004 17:43 »

Batman? Batman you say? What a load of junk no wonder its got 0 votes. I mean come on im not totally against the Dark Knight but Burton just crapifys it even if it made superhero films popular briefly, it took Marvel to start the sub-genre revolution. Anyway thats irrelevant ay...

My vote goes for either Edward Scissorhands or the Nightmare before X-mas.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #30 on: 06-24-2004 18:08 »

 
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Originally posted by boingo2000:
 You DARE badmouth Danny Elfman's brilliant songs?  For this you must pay!

*Sends Clowns of Death after Otis.*  (ETA: 50 years)

Anyway, Ed Wood is far and away my favourite Burton movie.

Danny Elfman's songs are clool and everything, but in this case I'd think less would be more...

Mr. Potter

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« Reply #31 on: 06-24-2004 22:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr Fuzzywuvems:
 It's a Best Tim Burton movie poll not a Best Film directed by Tim Burton poll. The movies full name is Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas so I think it's fair to say that it's a Tim Burton Movie.

Fair enough.

Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #32 on: 06-25-2004 01:04 »

Ed Wood.  Every character shines in a z-grade anti-tour-de-force that always leaves my sides splitting.
KAH

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« Reply #33 on: 06-25-2004 20:09 »

I love Ed Wood but Pee-wee's Big Adventure is just a childhood favorite of mine.
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« Reply #34 on: 06-28-2004 02:27 »
« Last Edit on: 06-28-2004 02:27 »

Sleepy Hollow - its got some great humour stacked against brilliant atmosphere and the cast.

Some other (short) films that Tim did;

The Island of Doctor Agor (1971)
Stalk of the Celery (1979)
Vincent (1982)
Frankenweenie (1984)
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #35 on: 06-28-2004 16:19 »

I've seen some of Vincent and heard of Frankenweenie but what are the other two about?
boingo2000

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« Reply #36 on: 06-28-2004 17:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
 Danny Elfman's songs are clool and everything, but in this case I'd think less would be more...


[John Cleese]You're only making it worse for yourself!!![/John Cleese]

Eh, I suppose I can be the bigger man and let it go.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #37 on: 06-29-2004 00:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr Fuzzywuvems:
I've seen some of Vincent and heard of Frankenweenie but what are the other two about?

Since their short-films he did whilst he was in his late teens, their pretty much the grounding base for his later work. I've yet to even seen a copy or even know of a person with a copy of these films - so I personally couldnt give you a thorough review of them.

Anyway, the best I could find on either of them was these two links - strangely I couldnt find a review of 'Stalk of the Celery', sorry;

The Island of Doctor Agor - A small review from IMDB
Halloween Town - A brief but informative view of Tim's past work
Sweetmelly

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« Reply #38 on: 06-29-2004 04:24 »

It's difficult to say which Burton movie is the best. Sleepy Hollow was his best horror movie. But i think his cineastic masterpiece is Ed Wood.
Just Chris

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« Reply #39 on: 06-29-2004 23:14 »

The Nightmare Before Christmas was major pwnage. And I liked Beetlejuice too, such a crazy, wacky movie. I like Burton's movies more when they add some wackiness instead of just being genuinely spooky.
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