MTV Movie Awards 2004 and beyond

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I've searched and I only found a thread with MTV Movie Awards 2003, this is for 2004 and beyond so nobody can do a thread for MTV Movie Awards 2005, 2006, and etc.
 http://www.mtv.com/onair/movieawards/ma04/nominees/

Here are the results of this year's winners and I'm disappointed in many ways.  One is that Freddy vs. Jason wasn't even nominated for best fight.          to MTV


Hugh Jackman and Kelly Hu would have been the one I'd replace for Freddy vs. Jason.  Jackman and Hu fight scene is boring after you watch it a few times. Freddy vs. Jason gets better every time you watch it.

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I wasn't mad about any of the choices but one surprised me a bit. I didn't think Lucy Liu would get best villain. On the contrary I thought she would be the last one to get it. Then again I never saw Kill Bill Vol. 1 or 2...

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How could you judge whether she deserves an award for best villain if you haven't even seen Kill Bill Vol.1?

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I don't think he said that she didn't deserved it, he just said he was surprised that someone as Lucy Liu won Best Villain. For someone who hasn't watched Kill Bill that may be surprising.

Anyways, they're showing this here on Thursday. I'll watch it to see if it's any good.

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Mr. Potter got what I was saying (or trying to say) spot on. I didn't say she didn't deserve it, but it surprised me as she doesn't strike me as a villain. I have seen Charlie's Angels one and own number two, and she seems more of a good person.

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I'm not talking about winners, I'm just mad Freddy vs. Jason wasn't even nominated for Best Fight.  If it didn't win, it didn't win.  I'd be cool with that.

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The fight scenes weren't all that fantastic in Freddy vs Jason, and it was considered a bad movie nearly everywhere unless you were a huge fan of either Freddy or Jason. I liked it though, Freddy is the only truly scary thing in movies.

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It may have been a "bad movie" but it made +$86 million in the box office.  The fight scene is done in old fashion camera work.  Normally fight scenes today are shot with many cameras and when they edit the scene, we is so much cutting that it makes less easy to watch and pay attention.

Freddy vs. Jason's fight scene has only two cameras and it's cutting still makes the scene easy to pay attention and it is just raw and just has the two fighting.  Director Ronny Yu, said the inspiration for shooting the fight scene the way it is was from the movie, Rocky.

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Check reviews nearly everywhere, they all seem to agree that it was a bad movie. Anyway, isn't the fight scene really violent? I've only seen it once but imagine showing Freddy impaling Jason on half a dozen little skewers to an audience which sometimes has children in it.

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Critics also gave Scarface bad reviews when it first came out, but it has become a cult underground classic.  I believe Freddy vs. Jason brought back the classic crossover monster movies.

Wolfman vs. Frankenstein
King Kong vs. Godzilla 

and Alien vs. Predator coming out this summer is an example of the impact of Freddy vs. Jason.

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Originally posted by tom123:
I wasn't mad about any of the choices but one surprised me a bit. I didn't think Lucy Liu would get best villain. On the contrary I thought she would be the last one to get it. Then again I never saw Kill Bill Vol. 1 or 2...

Having seen Kill Bill Volume 1 it doesn't surprise me that she one, she was a great villain, I can't say if she was the best of that selection as I haven't seen the other films.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Critics also gave Scarface bad reviews when it first came out, but it has become a cult underground classic.

Are you trying to compare Scarface with Freddy vs. Jason?

Also, I don't think that the return of monster combat movies is actually a good thing. And the fights were normal, nothing incredibly exciting.

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No, I'm just saying that movies that get bad reviews can still be good movies.

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Sometimes good movies get mixed reviews, Fight Club and Crash spring to mind, but movies that get universily terrible reviews are pretty much guaranteed to be bad.

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I never saw Freddy vs. Jason but it looked mutrial. But the winner of "Best Movie" Was soooooooooo obvious. It was the freakin' Academy Awards all over again, only this time I knew that it would win. Although I really enjoyed Van Helsing. God I'm so glad the stupid LOTR movies are over!!!     

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If you think about it, mostly the reviews are going to be geared up towards  either reccomending a movie, or saying why it was bad - so that people can talk and say "so and so is good/bad, I read it in ____" and don't alienate/confuse their readers with multiple opinions. Even though in reality it's more like no strong feelings either way for most movies, how very neutral..

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Scruffy:.............second.