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Chelsea

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« Reply #120 on: 07-19-2004 12:26 »

They took our jobs!!
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« Reply #121 on: 07-19-2004 14:47 »
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I've seen the commercials for it. Also, the third season has a DVD preview. I know 4th season has some greats like NAMBLA, Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld, Fingerbang...but what else does it have?

WHAT!?   :eek:

What episode it that my seson four dosn't have it, is it seson 4? I dont think I'v ever seen it before what happens?

 
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They took our jobs!!

Plese don't. Don't be a retarded n00b who spams pointlessly. It makes you look like such a prick.
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« Reply #122 on: 07-19-2004 20:32 »
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Originally posted by Sal:
  Plese don't. Don't be a retarded n00b who spams pointlessly. It makes you look like such a prick.

i find it funny that youre saying that to someone who has been here longer than you....

anywho.....
Yeah Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld is supposed to be on the new Season4 DVD, are u sure its not on yours? and if your wodnering about a summary, its basically about this new kid(Timmy) who is crippled and retarded and the school thinks he has ADD (along with all the other kids). In the meantime, Timmy becomes lead singer of a heavy metal band(lords of the underworld)
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« Reply #123 on: 07-19-2004 21:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
  i find it funny that youre saying that to someone who has been here longer than you....

anywho.....
Yeah Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld is supposed to be on the new Season4 DVD, are u sure its not on yours? and if your wodnering about a summary, its basically about this new kid(Timmy) who is crippled and retarded and the school thinks he has ADD (along with all the other kids). In the meantime, Timmy becomes lead singer of a heavy metal band(lords of the underworld)
And
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« Reply #124 on: 07-19-2004 21:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:


hahaha how could i forget about that.   :laff:
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« Reply #125 on: 07-19-2004 22:31 »

The episode's not called Timmy And The Lords Of The Underworld though, is it? I thought it was just called Timmy 2000?
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #126 on: 07-20-2004 00:50 »

It's my fault really, I didn't know the names of the episodes before I got the DVD.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #127 on: 07-20-2004 01:50 »

I loved the Timmy episode.

Doc, after reading the long,long,long book:OK, in the sixth chapter, what kind of car was Mr.(insert name here) driveing.
(none of the kds anweser do to being so bored)
Doc: These children all have ADD!
Kids, weakly: Yeah.
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« Reply #128 on: 07-20-2004 09:23 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
It's my fault really, I didn't know the names of the episodes before I got the DVD.
If you want to know the titles go here, there are also scripts and other interesting details about each episode there  :)

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« Reply #129 on: 07-20-2004 10:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:.

Doc, after reading The Great Gatsby :OK, in the sixth chapter, what kind of car was Mr.Gatsbydriving.
(none of the kids answer due to being so bored)
Doc: These children all have ADD!
Kids, weakly: Yeah.

Fixed.
Grim

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« Reply #130 on: 07-20-2004 20:18 »

From memory its a bright green ford or something, gets a nice blood stain on the front of it too
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« Reply #131 on: 07-20-2004 22:36 »

Also, if we're getting really technical - the kids said "yay", not "yeah".  ;)
newhook_1

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« Reply #132 on: 07-20-2004 23:03 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2004 00:00 »

OMFG!!!!!!!!

*Edit* There was a picture here, but IGN filmforce has seemingly taken it down.

TEAM AMERICA PICTURES!!!!!!!111111oneone

    :laff: That looks so awesome. I can't wait to see it in action. I'm so excited about this movie since seeing these pictures. Plus you have to factor in the fact that if Matt or Trey took a dump in my tiolet, I'd probably save the turd in a plastic baggy.
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« Reply #133 on: 07-20-2004 23:16 »
« Last Edit on: 07-20-2004 23:16 »

Awww! I was just about to post some Team America pictures!!! There are a few more here, too.  :)

Still, the puppets look awesome, as does the movie itself. Plus you have to factor in the fact that if Matt or Trey came in my hair... I'd be very disturbed.
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« Reply #134 on: 07-21-2004 03:15 »

An interesting quote from Matt Stone:

"The subtle joke here is that all the actors are 'puppets'". 

Assuming I'm reading this right, the implication seems to be that the "actors" are merely "puppets" in a terrible script (in this case in a farcical sense of course).  That's more subtley then I would normally expect from Matt and Trey, no offense meant to them of course.  Very interesting.

Anyways, those puppets actually look far better then I expected.  Looks to be an awesome movie.
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« Reply #135 on: 07-21-2004 04:58 »

Those puppets don't look any more "awesome" than the puppets in the various Gerry Anderson shows of the '60s and '70s, not surprising as on that page it says Matt and Trey both loved the puppets in Thunderbirds
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« Reply #136 on: 07-21-2004 05:05 »

Are you suggesting that the old Anderson puppets aren't awesome? Have at thee, Tweek!  :p
M0le

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« Reply #137 on: 07-21-2004 07:47 »

I love puppets. To be frank though, I thought all the puppets would look just like the Muppets.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #138 on: 07-21-2004 13:16 »

That's a puppet? It looked more like a bobblehead doll to me.

There should be a show where the entire cast is bobblehead dolls.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #139 on: 07-22-2004 09:53 »

Anybody seen the figures yet? They have released two series so far and they don't look too bad.

Series 1:
Cartman w/ Kitty
Kyle w/ Ike
Stan w/ Sparky
Butters w/ Underpants Gnome(stupid, right?)

Exlusive
Mr. Hankey, the Chrismas Poo w/Simon

Series 2
Timmy w/Goobles
Tweek w/two Underpants Gnomes
Towlie w/South Park sign
Kenny w/two rats
newhook_1

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« Reply #140 on: 07-22-2004 11:40 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2004 11:40 »

Yeah, I plan on picking some up sometime down the road. I don't want to order them over the internet, but I know a local comic book shop that carries heaps and heaps of action figures, so they'll probably be there.

I got season 4 on DVD yesterday, I've watched all the episodes on it already, I still think A very Crappy Christmas, Chef Goes Nanners, Helen Keller! The Musical, Fat Camp, and Fourth Grade bring down the season as a whole.

Tooth Fairy Tats 2000: A-
Cartman's Silly Hate Crime 2000: A
Timmy 2000: A-
Quintuplets 2000: B-
Cartman Joins Nambla: A+
Cherokee Hair Tampons: B+
Chef Goes Nanners: C
Something You Can Do With Your Finger: B+
Do The Handicapped Go To Hell?: B+
Probably: A
Fourth Grade: C+ (Almost saved by Star Wars parody)
Trapper Keeper: A-
Helen Keller! The Musical: C
Pip: B+
Fat Camp: C-
The Wacky Molestation Adventure: B+
A Very Crappy Christmas: D (It was cool that the did a tribute to "The Spirit Of Christmas", but the episode as a whole just isn't that funny by South Park standards.)

This season is where Matt & Trey brought the humor the ultra funny level it's at today, but it also contains some of the biggest stinkers in the series. It was a sort of two steps forward, one step back type deal.

Overall season rating (not an average): B

The fact that it's one of my least favorite seasons and I gave it a B shows what an amazingly good show South Park actually is.

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« Reply #141 on: 07-22-2004 15:19 »

nice grades newhook. Thanks for a list of the episodes on the new DVD
starone

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« Reply #142 on: 07-24-2004 20:03 »

Did anyone notice that Satan's voice has change somewhat since season 1? In season one he sounded more demonic, now he sounds sissier.
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« Reply #143 on: 07-25-2004 02:14 »

 
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Originally posted by starone:
Did anyone notice that Satan's voice has change somewhat since season 1? In season one he sounded more demonic, now he sounds sissier.

i guess we hear him more sissy-like because we found out that he is a efeminan gaywad.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #144 on: 07-25-2004 03:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-25-2004 03:08 »

Yeah, his voice struck me as odd when I saw "Damien".  Much more omininous and evil sounding.  As Nasty Pasty said, it can probably be chalked up to a difference in characterization later on in this case.  However, it should be pointed out that a lot of the voices (including all three boys besides Kenny) seem to have changed over the years, even if the change is more subtle with some then with others.  In fact the same is true with most cartoons.  Even most of the voices in earlier Futurama episodes sound different to me.
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« Reply #145 on: 07-25-2004 03:59 »

Kenny's "voice" has changed a bit, too - but mainly just the pitch. It was really high in the first few episodes of Season 1 (especially in 101), then went somewhat low-pitch for a kid. Since he's been back, it sounds much more like a traditional child's pitch, though.

I watched Two Guys Naked In A Hot Tub again yesterday for the first time in years... god damn, I forgot how different Butters' voice was back then! Although, it's forgivable, considering Trey used to voice him before he became a main character, I believe - when Matt Stone took over the role.
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« Reply #146 on: 07-25-2004 12:12 »

Cartman's changed a good deal as well. The major turning point was "The Red Badge Of Gayness", when he got more of a southern dialect added to his voice.

Also, if you pay attention to Terrance and Philip, their voices switch at some point during season 1.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #147 on: 07-25-2004 18:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
Kenny's "voice" has changed a bit, too - but mainly just the pitch. It was really high in the first few episodes of Season 1 (especially in 101), then went somewhat low-pitch for a kid. Since he's been back, it sounds much more like a traditional child's pitch, though.

Also, in later seasons, you can understand what he's saying better.

Cartman's voice changed in pretty much every episode in the first three seasons.

As for Terrance and Phillip, I think their voices just weren't put through any kind of pitch changer yet, they weren't switched.
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« Reply #148 on: 07-26-2004 03:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2004 00:00 »

More "Team America" stuff:
  http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=5694

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16036
  (scroll down a little)

Geez, they're even taking on George Clooney (the guy who helped put them on the map!) and Tim Robbins (Georgie boy himself on "That's My Bush!" ).  I guess it really is all in good fun.  Or maybe not.  Either way I can't wait to see the film.

Edit: Whoops, dumb mistake on my part.  I somehow got Robbins misplaced with Timothy Bottoms (I don't know my celebrities very well).  Point still stands on Clooney though.
newhook_1

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« Reply #149 on: 07-28-2004 16:25 »

Here's a thing I posted about "608-Red Hot Catholic Love" on The Leela Zone forums. took me awhile to type out the whole thing, so I'll post it here too. I didn't plan it out like a proper essay or anything, so I may ramble a bit in places. :

 
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Ok, I'll explain this as best I can.

Have you ever done an English course? If so, then you probably know that many things in stories have both a literal and figurative meaning. Keep that in mind as I'm explaining this.

Now, this episode is about how people are losing faith in their religon because of the Catholic church translating what the bible says literally and turing the religon into hierarchies and rules. Father Maxi pretty much states that at the end of the episode, but if you listen to what he says, he states that when people lose their faith, they start spewing a bunch of crap out of their mouth. Now keep in mind that he was in Italy at the time that people in America started shoving food up their butts and crapping out their mouths, and he most likely didn't know about it. Therefore one can infer that when he said people "Start spewing a bunch of crap out of their mouths", he ment the figurative kind, like when someone says something which you disagree with, and you say "You're full of crap!".

Here's where the characters literally crapping out their mouths in the episode comes into play. All the so called "Shock humor" where Cartman stuck food up his butt and crapped out his mouth and the news stories and stuff was all leading up to one particular point in the episode. The part of the episode to which I'm refering is the "SouthPark Atheists Club" meeting. In this scene, if you look at the particular points where characters crap out their mouths, you will see that they are saying things which Matt Stone and Trey Parker obviously consider the figurative type of crap. Mr. Tweek craps out his mouth while talking about how the word God should be taken off money, and out of schools. While Randy Marsh craps out his mouth while saying that the christians of America are forcing their religon upon athesits. By having the characters crap out their mouths while they are saying things like this, Matt and Trey are subtlely, (Well subtle for mainstream television anyway), saying that atheists who protest about things such as the word God being taken off of money, and being held down by christians are full of the figuritive type of crap. The eitire crapping out the mouth, (While I do admit that I personally found it funny), thing had a figurative meaning.

That's what I mean when I talk about satire in Southpark. I do understand that it's not for everyone some people are easily grossed out, but it just annoys me so much when people try to write off things like this on the show as immature toilet humor. It is rather opinionated satire, so I also know that not everyone will agree with the stance that Matt and Trey took on the subject. That's what I was refering to in an eariler post when I said if you're going hate the show, it should be because you disagree with Matt and Trey's political and religous views, or because you can't stomach it, not because you think the show is low brow. That being said, Kenneth, I think you simply fall into the easily grossed out catagory.

Just so no one gets the wrong impression either, I'm not saying there isn't any lowbrow comedy on the show(really, what animated comedy doesn't have low brow humor in it?), I'm just saying that the show itself is actually quite intelligent.

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« Reply #150 on: 07-28-2004 17:11 »

I noticed that as well, but it took me a few tries. I get pissed off at this as well, I remember talking to some people a few years ago who passed it off as an "immature kids show", but it's like "No you don't get it", which is incredible because they just come out and say what they're trying to say at the end of every episode. Which is rather stupid. Meaning South Park is not very subtle. If they were subtle, they wouldn't have "I learned something today" at the end of every damn show.
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« Reply #151 on: 07-28-2004 17:50 »
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Yeah, they really aren't all that subtle, that's why I added in "Well subtle for mainstream television anyway." The sad thing is, most people I've meet who are the type that would call the show stupid and immature will go home and watch crap like Fear Factor. 6 people eating feces for $50,000, Hooray for maturity!   :nono:
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« Reply #152 on: 07-29-2004 05:18 »

Yeah, even the dumbest episodes have thier subtle jokes. Take Towelie for example - through the entire episode, the kids are living a plot which played out as if it was a videogame. You had stupid characters (Towelie), 2 different sides (Tynacorp & the fake military), and even the settings of most scenes are things like labs, army bases, deserts, etc. - which are constant settings in videogames.

However, did the kids give a crap? Nope. They were more focused on getting back the videogame itself. I think the most give-away line in this episode is at the end when they get their Okama Gamesphere back again, and get really excited over the fact that there's a parachute level - yet 3 minutes ago, the boys were all parachuting in real life, and din't give a rat's ass.

I mean, the subtle things in Towelie didn't exactly have a moron, and they weren't even trying to say much with the point they were making, but the point is that the show is jam-packed with subtle points & jokes that the average moron probably wouldn't even be able to pick up on if they watched these episodes over 10 times.

South Park proudly manages to insult your intelligence while it makes you think... it's just a shame that so many people think it's just a stupid and immature show when they judge it by its earlier episodes (as hilarious as they were, they still lack the sattirical edge of more recent seasons).
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« Reply #153 on: 07-29-2004 08:05 »

 
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I mean, the subtle things in Towelie didn't exactly have a moron

They didn't have a what?

As far as your comment on "satiricalness", I have to say no matter what anyone else says, season 2 was still my favorite season of South Park because they didn't just have their asses saved for a plot by picking up a newspaper, they actually thought of something original. They also said something in the mini-commentary about how they think having multiple stories brings the plot down and I just want to go over to them and shout "NO! Multiple stories makes it better. It makes it more interesting so I'm not watching the same two characters the whole time and I'm getting a DIVERSITY!"

I saw the Terrance and Phillip Behind The Blow episode again last night. Hadn't seen this one in a long time. I completely forgot about the Earth Day plot, but I do agree that global warming is pretty much bullshit. Hell, I'm not feeling it. If this summer is proving anything to me, we're having just the opposite. We've been below average all year. I have to say overall it wasn't a very funny episode(especially when you consider that it premiered the week after Scott Tenorman Must Die, one of the stalwarts of the show). I like that song they sang on the Ed Sullivan show though...that was some funny shit.
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« Reply #154 on: 07-29-2004 13:08 »

I saw Casa Bonita last night for the first time last night and it was so funny. The last moments are so memerable. I was laughing the whole time! Butters subplot was real funny, too.
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« Reply #155 on: 07-29-2004 13:59 »

 
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I saw Casa Bonita last night for the first time last night and it was so funny. The last moments are so memerable. I was laughing the whole time! Butters subplot was real funny, too.

another quality episode. After Cartman's desperate attempts to get there, it made me in the mood for some Mexican food...
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« Reply #156 on: 07-29-2004 16:53 »

Heh, I've been meaning to go to that actual restaurant again for a while (its probably walking/biking distance with my high school).  They have a killer arcade....one of my fave episodes too, both for that bias, and because I just love Butters so much.
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« Reply #157 on: 07-29-2004 22:05 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 They didn't have a what?

Whoops, that was supposed to say "I mean, the subtle things in Towelie didn't exactly have a point"... Dunno how the hell the word "moron" got in there, but still - it made me laugh when I re-read it.  :p

I think that sattire isn't ALWAYS the way to go, but it really works with South Park, and it's not like every episode is sattirical. Most new episodes tend to have a good balance of sattire, parody, smart humour, dumb humour and originality, anyway.

I'd say Season 6 was the most sattirical... It also happens to be my favourite season, although that more-or-less comes down to the fact that:
1. It was hilarious.
2. Butters played a major role in it.
3. It's virtually the only season with no bad episodes whatsoever (which is also rather impressive, considering it was one of the longest seasons, too).

Still, I really like Matt & Trey's take on sattirical humour... they have a slightly different approach to it than most other sattirical shows, which I personally find rather refreshing, especially in a show like South Park.

At the end of the day though, the only reason anybody watches the show is to be entertained - and as long as I'm laughing, I don't really think it matters very much. The social sattire that comes with the show is really more or less of an added bonus for intelligent viewers, rather than the focal point... It's the formula that makes South Park so good.  :)
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« Reply #158 on: 07-29-2004 23:44 »

I just "Starvin' Marvin in Space" for the first time tonight. It was alright, but I loved all Return of the Jedi stuff with Sally and Kenny in Karbonite(or however the hell you spell that). Also the cruddy song bit. Was that sung by DVDA or someone else?
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« Reply #159 on: 07-30-2004 11:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
I'd say Season 6 was the most sattirical... It also happens to be my favourite season, although that more-or-less comes down to the fact that:
1. It was hilarious.
2. Butters played a major role in it.
3. It's virtually the only season with no bad episodes whatsoever (which is also rather impressive, considering it was one of the longest seasons, too).

I have to say that at first I was disappointed with season 6, because with the lack of Kenny, they really laid his death on too thick. All that "Kenny would have done it" stuff really got annoying to me. But as the season progressed, and even after looking back at some of the older ones(like the Terrance and Philip Movie Trailer, which was fantastic), I realize that it was a great season. How can you top the Lord of the Rings episode? My favorite episodes in that run were definetely the ones where they didn't have that fourth friend, but the Bachelor-esque contest was funny too(also because that episode introduced Professor Chaos).

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