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GreyThinkyWhale

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« Reply #200 on: 05-03-2005 16:43 »
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I thought AD was okay, they had some good jokes like the guy who bit his thumb off, but they definately need some improvements made. Like the Simpsons, I will still watch it and hope it improves, which reminds me, I rather liked the new Simpsons this week, especially the one with Ray. Overall I'd give it a B-. Okay, but not great.

Edit: Woo, my very second TOTPD!
Slackit02

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« Reply #201 on: 05-03-2005 18:28 »

Ugh a B-?  Your being way too geneours.  Is this being based on a curve?

It deserves an F - nothingwas funny about it
Futurama Nerd

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« Reply #202 on: 05-03-2005 18:59 »

^I agree sooooo much.
killbot4000

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« Reply #203 on: 05-03-2005 19:04 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 00:00 »

I don't agree it deserves a f- your being to geneours.

PS i'm joking it wasn't that bad it at least add jokes in it even if they wern't that funny for really i'll give it a D+
parasite?

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« Reply #204 on: 05-03-2005 19:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeremy:
One part made me laugh. I can't remember what it was. Hmm. This show is balls, though.

I chuckled at the part about the "pregnant" who was adopting.

Oh and everyone's entitled to their opinion. It's just that some of your opinions are wrong. No just kidding.   roll eyes Some people LOVE Tom goes to the mayor on AS. No comment on that one just  puke
futz
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« Reply #205 on: 05-03-2005 23:45 »
« Last Edit on: 05-03-2005 23:45 »

Fox dosen't know when to keep 'em and [as] doesn't know when to chuck 'em.

Way back in the time before CG, ABC spun off "Police Story" due to the success of the movie "Aiplane". They canceled it after one season saying that ratings were high but people were watching the show so intently they were ignoring the commericials. Popular demand brought it back for a bit but ABC soon dumped it for good. So if while watching the tube you begin to think that a show is crap, you're right. If you think that's a mistake you're wrong. And ratings aren't everything.
FemJesse

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« Reply #206 on: 05-04-2005 00:17 »

Please don't compare Futurama to American Dad.  Futurama was not written in the formula of Simpsons.

"FemJesse: People were pissed that Family Guy was like the Simpsons
FemJesse: people were pissed that the Simpsons were like the Flintstones
FemJesse: and people were pissed that the Flinstones were like the honeymooners
FemJesse: the only difference is that Seth is rippign of his own formula
FemJesse: and its like having two family guys
FemJesse: Matt didn't rip off his own formula when he made Futurama
FemJesse: so I don't think American Dad should be compared to Futurama.
FemJesse: Futurama is thusly superior
FemJesse: =)
FemJesse: This thing has been going on ever since Flinstones vs Jetsons"
Beamer

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« Reply #207 on: 05-04-2005 02:27 »

(not aimed at FemJesse)

If you people don't like the show, why the hell do you keep posting in here? I mean, I don't go into the thread of every show I hate just to tell people who like it they're wrong. I know it's a new show, and everyone's entitled to your opinion, but if you don't like the show, then why keep coming back to the thread?

Stop being stupid, stop posting in a TV show's thread if you have nothing decent to contribute, and learn how to spell generous properly.
Slackit02

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« Reply #208 on: 05-04-2005 09:09 »

Beamer - because this is where we discuss tv shows.  And if my opinion is that its a bad show, I have every right to come here and talk about it.  Some people are just posting "it was crap" but since you referenced either me or Killbot in your post, I just want to point out that when I posted here I gave reasons about why I hated it.  I did have decent information to contribute...
futz
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« Reply #209 on: 05-04-2005 09:36 »

If it's one-sided it's not a discussion. Besides I wasn't flaming any particular show just the state of TV programming. People here always seem to wonder why shows with enthusiastic fans get scrapped and junk shows live forever.
newhook_1

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« Reply #210 on: 05-04-2005 19:55 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 19:55 »

I was a supporter of the pilot episode, and I didn't really like the new episode last night. There were a few funny jokes, but many fell flat, and the story was absoulty retarded beyond words(not in a good way like many South Park and Family Guy episodes either). It was retarded in the sense that the person who was writing it was trying to tell a story, but just wasn't good enought a writer to do it. The plot went off on tangents that served no purpose humor wise or story wise, and characters personalities changed at the drop of a hat for no good reason. Sure other shows are guilty of this, but I think there was a marked change in Stan's personality five times in one episode. I'll still watch next week to see if there's any improvement, but it was a big disapointment considering I was one of the few who liked the pilot.

C- With a few good jokes saving it from a D. 
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #211 on: 05-04-2005 20:27 »

Didn't Seth McFarlane write that episode of American Dad? (Like he did for that Family Guy episode?)
newhook_1

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« Reply #212 on: 05-04-2005 20:30 »
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I figured he wrote the pilot and someone else wrote this. Can anyone confirm? Ethier way, I thought the story was poor as a whole.
Beamer

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« Reply #213 on: 05-04-2005 21:12 »

Seth MacFarlane co-wrote on the pilot, yes, but the second episode was written by David Zuckerman. Strange, he's usually a good writer too (although I haven't actually seen the episode, Newhook_1 and I have the same tastes in comedy, so I'll take his word for it until I see it)...
newhook_1

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« Reply #214 on: 05-04-2005 21:52 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 21:52 »

Well, like I said. I liked some of the jokes(mostly the loud dumb ones like Stan driving his head through the wall, and about half the gay jokes like "I wish I had a vigina" ). It's just, the writing really ruined it for me there was far too much in the story that didn't need to be there, and, let's say, about half the jokes fell flat. I think it's a side effect of Family Guy's return.
starone

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« Reply #215 on: 05-05-2005 00:15 »

Wow, alot of people really hated this ep. Dosen't look good for the series.

I was pretty indifferent to it myself but I still think it's too simular to Family Guy to be successful.
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #216 on: 05-05-2005 02:09 »

I didn't think this episode was too bad. I laughed a few times. I pretty much agree with Newhook, I'd give it a C+ though. Better than most things.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #217 on: 05-05-2005 15:35 »

I give American Dad a B-  Sorry, people but I liked it!  It's a lot like All in the Family with the liberal daughter and the conservative dad.  I know some of the jokes in it are perverted, but it least American Dad doesn't go overboard about it like Family Guy does.  All the characters in the family are cool.  At least Hayley doesn't act like a crybaby drama queen like Meg.  She seems more mature and intellegent.

The only character I don't like so much is Steve.  He doesn't even look like or act like a 'Steve'.  If he's a dorky kid who's into girls and video games, his name should be something like 'Sam'.  He looks more like a "Sam" to me than a "Steve".  One thing is for sure, Hank Hill from King of the Hill would be happy and proud to have a son like Steve!  Because Steve is so girl crazy!  But girls don't like him!

I like the alien Roger.  He's like a cynical ALF.  The goldfish Klaus us funny, too!  I hope Roger and Klaus will end up having some adventures together.  Klaus is way funnier than Stewie!   I know American Dad probably won't stay very long just because it's Seth's second creation that's nothing like Family Guy.  If that's so, then let's hope American Dad will be on DVD one day, or maybe even a comic book!  At least I'll have something to watch after "The Contender" on Sunday nights. 

I liked American Dad, and I will watch it.  But it doesn't hold a candle to Futurama!
Wooter

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« Reply #218 on: 05-05-2005 16:02 »

The goldfish funnier than Stewie? You, sir, have earned my eternal contempt.
GreyThinkyWhale

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« Reply #219 on: 05-05-2005 16:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Slackit02:
Ugh a B-?  Your being way too geneours.  Is this being based on a curve?

It deserves an F - nothingwas funny about it

I like some of the jokes and I think it can improve. Perhaps I am being generous but there was a lot I liked. I just hope they put in more American jokes, like the one from the commercial:
- How's your french toast Stan?
- Smelly and ungrateful! But this american toast is great!
Overall it was pretty bad. I liked the pilot a lot more though, like when he shoots his toaster... or the skiier who acted like a fish. That was hilarious. But the latest episode stunk. I liked the guy who bit off his thumb though.

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001: Klaus is way funnier than Stewie!

No he isn't! He doesn't even compare!
Slackit02

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« Reply #220 on: 05-05-2005 18:11 »

 
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Originally posted by GreyThinkyWhale:
- How's your french toast Stan?
- Smelly and ungrateful! But this american toast is great!


Is that joke supposed to be funny? 
Because I personally dont think it is.  Ive heard it, a million times.  You can also say french fries or french pastry or french onion soup.  It wasnt funny the first time - its not funny now - especially with a boring character saying it
Harry Sach

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« Reply #221 on: 05-05-2005 19:33 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2005 19:33 »

They need to replace the alien w/ a reprehenable drunken bending robot. Who am I kidding, this show would suck even with Bender. F-

Just checked the American Dad boards, A lot of people on there hate it. Some Futurama threads on how they should get rid of AD and bring back futurama. Can't say I don't agree.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #222 on: 05-05-2005 21:17 »

That just shows that this should get off the air. If its own fanbase says no to it and yes to Futurama, it has to suck alot.

And how about also changing the daughter to a cyclops twentysomething woman, the mom to an older female, the dad to, say, a 150 year old man, divorce the mom and dad, change the goldfish to a lobster, change the son to a twentysomething pizza delivery boy, and then we might have a show.
David A

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« Reply #223 on: 05-05-2005 21:53 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:
The only character I don't like so much is Steve.  He doesn't even look like or act like a 'Steve'.  If he's a dorky kid who's into girls and video games, his name should be something like 'Sam'.  He looks more like a "Sam" to me than a "Steve".

You think that Sam sounds dorkier than Steve?   confused
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #224 on: 05-06-2005 00:17 »
« Last Edit on: 05-06-2005 00:17 »

As much as the first two episodes sucked balls, I'm still gonna give it one or two more shots. (After all, I admit I'm a little *biased against the show since it's being put on instead of Futurama.)
Here's a quick description of this Sunday's episode, provided by my cable company. (I'm sure there's a better one out there somewhere.)
When Haley returns from a Green Party rally with her hair dyed green, Stan waits for her to fall asleep and shaves her head with an electric shaver equipped with a silencer.
^In my opinion, it has the potential to be pretty good. But judging by the last two episodes, you can never tell.

*=not that it matters, but is that the right word to use?
M0le

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« Reply #225 on: 05-06-2005 04:34 »

I liked the pilot episode.  frown
I loved that bit when he steals the purse and gets a bit carried away.  tongue Anyways, you're all wrong and that's what's important!
 
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If he's a dorky kid who's into girls and video games, his name should be something like 'Sam'.
I never knew your name was Sam!  eek
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #226 on: 05-09-2005 02:50 »
« Last Edit on: 05-09-2005 02:50 »

This episode was a huge improvement over last week's. But it was still a huge load of crap. The plot was bland, and the jokes were especially lame. (Especially that French toast one.)
I hope this thing gets low ratings, and gets cancelled soon. (How many episodes did FOX order anyway?)
Venus

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« Reply #227 on: 05-09-2005 04:23 »

Tv Tome says 19.
Grim

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« Reply #228 on: 05-09-2005 07:06 »

Much improved over last week, light years ahead. If it stays as good as that I'll keep watching
David A

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« Reply #229 on: 05-09-2005 10:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
Much improved over last week, light years ahead.

I agree.  It's still not great, but it wasn't anywhere nearly as bad as the first two episodes.
Jicannon

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« Reply #230 on: 05-09-2005 10:43 »

Nope. Sucks.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #231 on: 05-09-2005 11:26 »

I think this week's was a definite improvement over last Sunday, but it still wasn't really good.

8/10
Slackit02

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« Reply #232 on: 05-09-2005 11:51 »

I still thought it was bad.  The only part I giggled at was when his wife asked if she should pleasure him with her mouth, and then blew on his stomach.  The only reason thats funny?  I do the same thing to my boyfriend.

Honestly, I dont care that this show is on the air, if Fox think's its going to make money for them fine.  The problem I see is that now Fox is showing two episodes of Simpsons, then FG, then AD. Two problems with this, why take out Arrested Development when there is still a time slot.  Second, it's not animation domination without Futurama, which many people are saying on the AD forums. 
Wooter

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« Reply #233 on: 05-09-2005 15:28 »

The plot was better, but the jokes were still weak.
David A

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« Reply #234 on: 05-09-2005 17:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Slackit2me:
I still thought it was bad.  The only part I giggled at was when his wife asked if she should pleasure him with her mouth, and then blew on his stomach.  The only reason thats funny?  I do the same thing to my boyfriend.

It's also funny because of presupposition failure.

 
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Honestly, I dont care that this show is on the air, if Fox think's its going to make money for them fine.  The problem I see is that now Fox is showing two episodes of Simpsons, then FG, then AD. Two problems with this, why take out Arrested Development when there is still a time slot.

Yeah, they said that they were taking Arrested Developmentout of the lineup to make room for American Dad, but that's not what actually happened.  They took out Arrested Development to make room for more Simpsons.  We don't need two episodes of The Simpsons on the same night.

 
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Second, it's not animation domination without Futurama, which many people are saying on the AD forums. 

It's not animation domination anyway, because it's not all animated shows.  The only way that taking Arrested Development out of the lineup would actually make sense is if they wanted to have a solid block of animation, but Malcolm in the Middle isn't animated, so that still doesn't make sense.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #235 on: 05-09-2005 17:18 »

I watched it to see how sucky it was...
Jokes=Sucked,
Plot=Sucked,
& Show=Sucked.
I didn't laugh once during the whole show. Not once. I didn't even giggle! The plot seemed like something I had seen before, and the jokes seemed forced. I give it a 1 out of 10. I'm not giving it a 0 because the only thing I liked about it was the son and alien's relationship during the show. If they could build on that, that would be the only way to save the show, to me at least. Or build on the alien's past. I don't know any of the character's names. I don't plan to learn them. Wait, nevermind what I just said. I don't want it to be saved.

I agree with Jicannon, I think Nasty was alittle too nice with the rating, and I agree with Slackit's problems with Animation Domination. And which AD forum are you talking about? Arrested, Animation, or American?
Slackit02

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« Reply #236 on: 05-09-2005 17:34 »

haha, good point IC.  I mean American Dad's forum. 

 
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It's not animation domination anyway, because it's not all animated shows. The only way that taking Arrested Development out of the lineup would actually make sense is if they wanted to have a solid block of animation, but Malcolm in the Middle isn't animated, so that still doesn't make sense.

Yah, I know that, but I think Fox is ignoring Malcolm in the promotion.  If they wanted to make it pure animation, I dont know why they just didnt wait.  It had, what - 3-5 more episodes to finish the season?  They could have waited that long, and maybe do a revamp of American Dad during that time. 

I think it was a waste of Fox's time, and ours to be showing two new simpsons every week.  Wont that just make the season shorter?  It should be only one episode of the simpsons, not only to open a timeslot, but because the simpsons - in my opinion - are not funny anymore. 
DotheBartman

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« Reply #237 on: 05-09-2005 18:34 »
« Last Edit on: 05-09-2005 18:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Slackit02:
 
Yah, I know that, but I think Fox is ignoring Malcolm in the promotion.  If they wanted to make it pure animation, I dont know why they just didnt wait.  It had, what - 3-5 more episodes to finish the season?  They could have waited that long, and maybe do a revamp of American Dad during that time. 

 

They're doing it now because its May sweeps.  Doing it in June would not be particularly beneficial in that sense, plus it wouldn't allow them to spearhead the "Family Guy" return and ADud opening episodes properly.  As it is, they'll want to open strong with these May episodes in order to gain more momentum for advertising charges over the summer.  I truly hate to say this about Fox, because I've put up with their garbage and mishandling of shows for years now, but in this case they're really only doing what any smart network would do.  If anything, surrounding Malcolm with all these high profile shows also would give it an extra boost.

The Simpsons doesn't factor in to much, I don't think.  Arrested Development was pulled early (and don't worry, its getting a third season anyway for sure) because, frankly, it was dying in the ratings.  It had the spot after The Simpsons, which is possibly the most coveted spot for any new/young show to have on Fox, and it still failed to attract anything other then a very small audience.  Because that slot is so good they originally planned to plug "ADud" in there, but evidentally changed plans when they realized that putting it after the much awaited Family Guy would probably work better.  I think the extra Simpsons eps were originally going to go where ADud is now, but that would have been haphazard scheduling.

But, The Simpsons has little to do with it, at least the original decision.  It had more to do with Fox wanting to plug Family Guy and American Dad, as well as plugging in something (a Simpsons ep, which is the main area where they factor in at all) that wouldn't absolutely DIE in the ratings, the way Arrested Development has been.  They need a good sweeps month, especcially for the sake of FG and ADud, which themselves simply need a stronger lead in then Arrested Development to thrive.  I hate to say it, because American Dad is shit awful, and I hate Fox, but they've really done everything a smart network would.

David A

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« Reply #238 on: 05-09-2005 18:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Slackit2me:
Yah, I know that, but I think Fox is ignoring Malcolm in the promotion.

They're probably ignoring everything before 8 o'clock.  I think we all know what that's like.

 
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I think it was a waste of Fox's time, and ours to be showing two new simpsons every week.  Wont that just make the season shorter?

They probably did it to fit more Simpsons into May Sweeps, which is crazy because Arrested Development is the best thing currently on TV.  They should want Arrested Development to be on during Sweeps.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #239 on: 05-09-2005 19:12 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 They probably did it to fit more Simpsons into May Sweeps, which is crazy because Arrested Development is the best thing currently on TV.  They should want Arrested Development to be on during Sweeps.

Regardless of Arrested Developments quality, it was dying.  May sweeps is about getting the best ratings possible, and Arrested Development would have hurt them a lot, which would have led to low rates for that slot through the whole summer.  Plus, Arrested would have been a terrible lead in for FG and ADad, which are both very important to Fox (no matter how much the latter sucks) and needed a good lead in to give them a boost.
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