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Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #120 on: 02-12-2005 00:20 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
You know why I'm pissed off!?

FOX Providence didn't ever air the show here. They covered it up with highlights of the Super Bowl that nobody gives a fuck about even though I live in god damn New England. Fuck the Patriots. Fuck the Super Bowl. Fuck football. Fuck FOX. Fuck television. Fuck everyone who likes any of those things. Fuck fuck fuck death fuck die shit. Ass.

I like television.

But nothing else listed above.
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« Reply #121 on: 02-12-2005 12:51 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
If you absolutely MUST see it, I believe Adult Swim is giving it a special airing on Sunday.

But.....I wouldn't bother.

Yeah, I keep hearing it from pricks like you. "Oh it sucks it's a Family Guy clone blah blah blah"...I saw that 6 minute pilot. I saw the preview thing before the Super Bowl. They were both fucking great. I'm sick of all these Family Guy fans not having the faith.
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« Reply #122 on: 02-12-2005 18:08 »
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Yeah, I agree. It made me laugh several times. Sure, if the series doesn't improve over this episode, it will be a pretty blah series, but most series do improve and I think this one has potential. The seeds are there to make some great characters and character based humor, it's just up to the writers to do their thing now.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #123 on: 02-12-2005 22:27 »

Here here, i'm going to watch the pilot again, tomorrow at 11:30pm on Adult Swim.
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« Reply #124 on: 02-12-2005 22:44 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
The seeds are there to make some great characters and character based humor, it's just up to the writers to do their thing now.

True. I mean, keep in mind that Family Guy itself had a pretty sub-par season in comparisson to its later seasons. Hell, so did Futurama. Even The Simpsons didn't get good until Season 3... Anyone who judges a show purely by the pilot episode should think about all their favourite shows. I bet at least one of them had a pretty lously pilot too.

As for American Dad's pilot, I've still yet to see it, but I'm... aquiring it now. Considering it probably won't reach Aussie TV until 2006, and even then - it may not even get picked up here.
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« Reply #125 on: 02-13-2005 02:52 »

Most shows evolve yes, but the problem with AD is that there's nothing there to evolve from.  The main character is a horrible, demeaning, just plain wrong stereotype of conservatives (and I'm a liberal!), the rest of the characters are just annoying, the "satire" is worse then Mad Tv, yada yada.  Futurama's first season was its weakest, but it still provided a lot of promise for the show.  It had interesting elements and well written humor, including the pilot (which was one of the better episodes of that season).  It did creative things.  It didn't just steal jokes from the worst scripts of "SNL" and then place them into a bland, Saturday Morning plot about a nerd with a crush on a cheerleader (that's innovative television right there!).  Hell, even Family Guy attempted to give its characters more memorable hooks then this did, and actually had humor in it.  The Simpsons' "Some Enchanted Evening" wasn't great, but was still miles ahead of this garbage, and actually had unique ideas.

I can grant that basically all shows need some time to grow, but there also needs to be something to grow from.  McFarlane has basically admitted himself that he's merely copying the formula of "All in the Family" and making it wacky.  And for his "vision" he's provided characters so bland and thin that there's just no direction to develop them into.  Yes, you can think back to the pilots of your favorite shows and say "wow, things sure changed", but you can also look back at them and say that there was an intriguing dynamic, or interesting ideas.  American Dad does not have those things.  Nowhere close.
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« Reply #126 on: 02-13-2005 05:38 »

Keep inmind there are a few characters that havent been introduced yet. Steve's gang of friends didnt get much air time, but Snot is listed on Tvtome as a main character. There is also the head of the CIA that is being played by Patrick Stewart.

I wouldnt write it off just yet
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #127 on: 02-13-2005 14:49 »

Screw American Dad!
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« Reply #128 on: 02-14-2005 14:18 »

Since it's made by the same guy who made Family Guy, it's okay.
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« Reply #129 on: 02-14-2005 14:20 »

And just because of that it's ok?  roll eyes
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #130 on: 02-14-2005 15:33 »

That means nothing, Seth made this show because his other show was cancelled, now that Family Guy's back, American Dad will be second fiddle, it'll get the shaft, left in the dust, it will be cancelled within the year. 
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« Reply #131 on: 02-23-2005 00:23 »

Well, I saw the first episode.

I'm glad to report that each and every person in this thread who had anything bad to say about American Dad is beyond wrong.

That is all.
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« Reply #132 on: 02-23-2005 03:25 »

Okay, so one thing that I realized is that American Dad is EXACTLY like Family Guy, but with different characters.  I watched it and was soo disappointed that I had to turn it off.  Don't get me wrong, I DO like Family Guy, but it just shows how uncreative the writers are.  You have the same family (Mom, Dad, son, daughter) and instead of the dog (brian) you have some alien.  The only difference is the little horny gold fish.

  I was talking to one of my friends because I couldn't understand how Family Guy or something from the writers of Family Guy was coming back, and he explained it to me.  The difference between FG and Futurama, is that Futurama has substance.  The "re" watch factor is much better than FG because futurama's jokes are more creative.  Family Guys are just simple.  A lot of people do not like to watch things that you need to think about it.  But, what I have realized through watching those 2 shows is that, Family Guy just bores me.  I have only seen the episodes of FG about 4 or 5 times each, because I am so bored of them I can't watch it anymore.  BUT, I have seen each Futurama episode about 40-50 times, and I STILL do not get bored.

I really liked the idea of another show from Seth Macfarlane (or whoever), but like I said, i was really disappointed.  It was just WAY too much like Family Guy...
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« Reply #133 on: 02-23-2005 15:23 »

Well I'm pretty sure it's not origional Lampy.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #134 on: 02-23-2005 22:55 »

All I know is I can't wait until Family Guy comes back, but I will not be watching this show. I don't know what i'll do while I wait for Arrested to come on, maybe i'll read. *shudders*

P.S. The Venture Brothers is returning!
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« Reply #135 on: 02-24-2005 10:43 »

 
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Originally posted by starone:
Well I'm pretty sure it's not origional Lampy.

Yes it is. It's a fucking new show. It's not the same. How can two different shows be the same?
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« Reply #136 on: 02-24-2005 13:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Calvyn79:
Okay, so one thing that I realized is that American Dad is EXACTLY like Family Guy, but with different characters.

No, on Family Guy Haley's gum would have exploded.
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« Reply #137 on: 02-24-2005 14:04 »
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 Yes it is. It's a fucking new show. It's not the same. How can two different shows be the same?
By having no original ideas, or as  is actually the case with American Dad, no good original ideas.

Just as an aside, this is my opinion and I'm not forcing it on anyone. I know this is not likely to happen, but I think it would be nice to stop the flaming and the counter-fanboyism.

Fanboyism: unreasonable preference toward a subject and a unreasoning hatred towards its alternatives.
Counter-fanboyism: unreasoning hatred toward a subject and an unreasonable preference towards its alternatives.
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« Reply #138 on: 02-25-2005 08:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
 By having no original ideas, or as  is actually the case with American Dad, no good original ideas.

It doesn't matter if the ideas are good to you. You just admitted that they're original. Therefore, it's obviously not the same.

I would side with David on this one...there's more of a conventional feel to it. I think you people were ready to pounce on this show the second you heard about it. You may have watched, but you basically forced yourselves to hate it so you wouldn't prove yourself wrong.
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« Reply #139 on: 02-26-2005 13:00 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I would side with David on this one...there's more of a conventional feel to it. I think you people were ready to pounce on this show the second you heard about it. You may have watched, but you basically forced yourselves to hate it so you wouldn't prove yourself wrong.

Thank you TheLapmIncident. I dont care if the show is conventional or crazy as long as its FUNNY I will keep watching and what I saw during the Super Bowl was FUNNY. This show is The Next Simpsons.
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« Reply #140 on: 02-26-2005 16:17 »

What? You're not David A!
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« Reply #141 on: 02-26-2005 19:33 »

I'm too lazy to finally read this thread, when's it coming to a channel where I can see it and form my own opinion of it?
a.k.a. Sky one.
DaveMason

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« Reply #142 on: 02-26-2005 21:31 »

FazeShift

American Dad comes on channel Fox 5 after The Super Bowl.
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« Reply #143 on: 02-26-2005 22:06 »

That's the stupidest thing I've heard Dave Mason say.
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But Faze, don't rely on a TV station actually show it. Download it, goddammit!

Join us...
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« Reply #144 on: 02-27-2005 10:34 »

What do I look like, a guy who's not meh?
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« Reply #145 on: 03-10-2005 19:36 »

i don't think American Dad will last simpsons,futurama American Dad,family guy.same creator but over all only one show can stay.
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« Reply #146 on: 03-10-2005 19:54 »

American Dad is NOT the next Simpsons. I mean, you can't judge it from one show! But I am. It's so stupid. The dad is Peter, except mixed with (the guy in the wheelchair, name slipped), the mom is Lois, the teen boy whose having problems is Chris but with the guy-that's-crazy-for-Meg look, the teen girl is an obvious rip on Meg, the fish is a Brian(both talk and both love the mom), and the alien is Stewie(minus the alien part). It's so obvious that it's a ripoff and unoriginal that I can't believe that people really think it's gonna last!
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« Reply #147 on: 03-10-2005 20:17 »

I heard the shows suppose to come back in May...I think May 1st...the same night the new season of Family Guy debutes. I havent seen the show yet? Was American Dad any good? Isnt it just a rip off of Family Guy? @005 is the year Family Guy returns so if your a fan...mark for Calenders for May 1st...well...if you want more info on either shows go to Fox.com
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« Reply #148 on: 03-10-2005 20:23 »

I think American Dad wont even last a year...I give it 3 months if that...since Family Guys coming back...it wont last. Im not a fan of Family Guy...Its ok....some of the stuff is funny...but Futuramas funnier and I say this for the one millionth time they should bring that show back too.....but ehh what can ya do...except mumble a few obsceneties at the pricks all at FOX under my breath,lol.
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« Reply #149 on: 03-11-2005 14:45 »

Futurama's funnier? Who knew?

By the way, I did see American Dad. It kicked major ass, so I have bragging rights over you tasteless chums.
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« Reply #150 on: 03-12-2005 12:07 »
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American Dad wasn't the best pilot I've ever seen, but I do believe that it had some good moments and has some potential. As much as I love Family Guy and Futurama, I had to watch 2 or 3 episodes before I was completely hooked.

But, now I can't imagine not watching either one. They are both excellent shows.
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« Reply #151 on: 03-12-2005 19:48 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Futurama's funnier? Who knew?

By the way, I did see American Dad. It kicked major ass, so I have bragging rights over you tasteless chums.

Well then lets just see how long it lasts..I sure in the hell wont be watching.....I give it 3 months six months top if that! Then when it gets canned by Fox Ill be laughing at you!!!
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« Reply #152 on: 03-12-2005 20:33 »

I don't get why Seth Mcfarlene made American Dad, it's nearly the same formula, but with new characters. All it does is cheapen family guy. I had to admit that I can't help but think less of FG when there's another show with the same premise.
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« Reply #153 on: 03-12-2005 20:38 »

Well, I always figured that AD was a replacment for FG in the wake of FG's cancellation, so I wouldn't be too surprised if they're similar.

Is this show even coming to Australia?
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #154 on: 03-12-2005 21:34 »

Why wouldn't it? Australia is like fox head quarters isn't?
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #155 on: 03-12-2005 21:43 »

Um... if you ignore the fact that Murdoch gave up his Australian citizenship to become a filthy Yank, sure...
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #156 on: 03-12-2005 22:02 »

Filthy Yank?!!

Oh well, so they really exclude shows from your Fox scheduling down there? Who knew that could actually be seen as a curse...
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« Reply #157 on: 03-12-2005 22:07 »

Heh.  tongue

In any case, Fox doesn't have a free-to-air station, here. There IS Channel 9, which is owned by Murdoch (or one of his demon spawn), but there's no guarantee that they'll get any Fox shows. Usually, it's one of the other stations that gets the Fox shows (Channel 10 got The Simpsons, Channel 7 got Futurama and 24).

I guess it depends how popular AD gets. I've just not heard of any local stations picking it up yet.
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« Reply #158 on: 03-13-2005 00:56 »

 
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Originally posted by jan_18_1981:
 Well then lets just see how long it lasts..I sure in the hell wont be watching.....I give it 3 months six months top if that! Then when it gets canned by Fox Ill be laughing at you!!!

I'm not saying this show will last long. I'm saying that it deserves more people give it. I honestly don't think the show's a clone of Family Guy. American Dad's obviously much more political. As far as format, it's also more traditional. Of course there's going to be similarities...they're made by the same person. But how many people do you think said that Futurama would be a Simpsons clone and were proven wrong in the long run?
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« Reply #159 on: 03-13-2005 01:29 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 I'm not saying this show will last long. I'm saying that it deserves more people give it. I honestly don't think the show's a clone of Family Guy. American Dad's obviously much more political. As far as format, it's also more traditional. Of course there's going to be similarities...they're made by the same person. But how many people do you think said that Futurama would be a Simpsons clone and were proven wrong in the long run?

I never thought Futurama would be Simpsons clone, and American dad isn't exactly a FG clone, but it's the same basic plot which in my opinion cheapens both of them.

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