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jabbernaut
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« on: 04-25-2004 11:26 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2014 18:22 by jab1981 »

What am I doing here?
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #1 on: 04-25-2004 13:41 »
« Last Edit on: 04-25-2004 13:41 »

The key is to grab all forms of everything before it's too late, I missed getting loads of A-tracks and I won't make that mistake again!

Also, this might go better in the Merchandise section...
PCC Fred

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« Reply #2 on: 04-25-2004 18:32 »

In my opinion HD-DVD's going to flop big time.  Regular DVD is at the height of it's popularity right now, and I think asking everyone to fork out yet more money for another new system is going to backfire.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #3 on: 04-25-2004 18:40 »

PCC is right. There was a media a few years back (the name escapes me) which was far superior to DVDs. Although similar in size, it had a much greater storage capacity and durability. The produvtion cost was roughly identical, but it was dropped seeing how it would be a rubbish idea to force people into buying new equipment already.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #4 on: 04-25-2004 20:02 »

You're not thinking of Superbit, are you?  Or is Superbit the same thing as HD-DVD?

And don't forget about Laserdisc.  Total disaster.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #5 on: 04-26-2004 01:42 »
« Last Edit on: 04-26-2004 01:42 »

Superbit DVDs aren't really different from normal DVDs, they just forego extras and dedicate all the disc space to the movie for higher-quality picture and sound.  They're supposed to work on any player.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #6 on: 04-26-2004 05:53 »

All the same, it's going to confuse a lot of people, and I think a lot will avoid buying them simply because they're not "regular" DVDs.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #7 on: 04-26-2004 06:06 »
« Last Edit on: 04-26-2004 06:06 »

Plus features are a neccisity for many buyers, and one of the reasons dvds even exist really, so not having them seems pointless.  Although to be fair I didn't know what Superbit was until just now.

Anyways, for shows that are still "in the process" of coming out during the switch to HD-DVD or whatever the next big format is, I'd imagine they'd simply release all the later ones on that format (and gradually switch over the previous releases as well) and let it be that.  Meaning, if DVD is already dead/dying by the time season 15 of The Simpsons came out, you'd simply buy it on that next format instead.

That said though I'm not sure how important any future "upgrades" (aside from the eventual eradication of physical copies as has been said, but I would bet that's still a LONG ways off) will actually be.  People bought into dvds because they erased the problems of VHS; the tapes wearing out, having to rewind, etc, plus the fact that you get the movie/show and nothing else (with dvd there are again features, so you get "more bang for you buck" )  Beyond that, what is there left to do really?  Your average person has generally only minimal interest in having the top possible quality in picture and sound, and will only notice the difference during huge leaps.  Aside from maybe discs that don't scratch, there's not much left to do that DVD hasn't aleady "fixed" for your average consumer.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #8 on: 04-26-2004 06:11 »

VHS was the main format from about the mid-eighties to the late nineties, something in the region of fifteen years.

If DVD stays at the top that long it'll take it to at least 2010, by which time HD-DVD will have long gone, since the market can't support two formats indefinitely.

Eventually something will come along to replace DVD, but it'll have to be something pretty revolutionary, whereas HD-DVD is pretty much just tweaking an existing format.
Lurrr

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« Reply #9 on: 04-26-2004 07:11 »

DVDs are about the best quality you're going to get (or at least, the best quality you'll actually notice) so I'm happy to wait until they bring out some new wacky format, like hologram TV's or something.
Vamsi

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« Reply #10 on: 04-26-2004 12:54 »

I wonder how HD-DVD format will help a show like the Simpsons with their early-season animation. I don't know how much you could improve the picture and you're ultimately limited by the source material. On the other hand, shows like Futurama could benefit because of their pure digital transfer.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #11 on: 04-26-2004 15:14 »

I dunno. I have FOX in HDTV and ive seen a few early Simpsons episodes on it. They looked better but not amazing.
aslate

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« Reply #12 on: 04-26-2004 15:54 »

There's no benefit in changing the current system, especially not now. A DVD can:
  • Fit the film
  • Fit the extras
  • Be small unlike VHS
  • Durable
  • Highest quality the majority of people will care about
  • Cheap to produce
    What more is needed? There's no advantage to producers because it's an expensive investment to convert to a new format. The newer format won't be cheaper by a large enough margin to be worth it and there are no beneficial features over the DVD.

    And is HDTV just/mainly a US thing?
OC_James

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« Reply #13 on: 04-26-2004 16:09 »
« Last Edit on: 04-26-2004 16:09 »

   
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Originally posted by aslate:
And is HDTV just/mainly a US thing?

Not really, it just hasn't been getting much hype until recently.
HD-TV is a great thing...if you have the money. It's pretty expensive, but the video quality's supposed to be so good you can see individual blades of grass in the distance and the film quality of poorly-shot/old movies will be increased quite a bit. However, most people won't find this necessary (like me for example) and will just stick to what they have now.
So yes, HD-TV will probably last and be as popular as the Laserdisc.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #14 on: 04-26-2004 18:07 »

Hey, i like Laserdiscs!
boingo2000

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« Reply #15 on: 04-27-2004 16:18 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
The key is to grab all forms of everything before it's too late, I missed getting loads of A-tracks and I won't make that mistake again!

Do you mean 8-Tracks?  Or are A-Tracks just really really rare these days?
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #16 on: 04-27-2004 16:48 »

Yes.  tongue

Which is the one used as car sound systems?
Ah I dunno, I was eh, joking or something.
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