A long time ago, in a message board far far away.

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According to Lucas, in the story "as he intended it," Han let Greedo shoot first (actually, almost simultaneously in the latest revision,) Greedo miraculously misses from two feet away, and Han proceeds to fry him. 

Fans dislike the revision because
1) it adds nothing to the movie
2) it looks and is stupid
3) it detracts from Han's character by making him look nicer than he ought to be at that point in the movie.  We're supposed to think Han's at best neutral on the morality scale as far as I can tell, but the scene suggests he's a typical White Hat.

This appeared in the Special Edition and was updated again in the DVD release.

TOTP Cantina Dance and really old explanation.

[Reply #681 on:]

Lucas addded  tiny laser blasts that hit on the wall beside Han from Greedo's gun in the two "special editions" before Han fries him. To me, it really doesn't matter, they still go by so fast you barely see them, but I will admit it kinda draws out of Han's character development in the movie.

[Reply #682 on:]

I dislike it for reasons far simpler than character development.

I don't care how bad of a shot you are, you DON'T miss from 3 feet away.

[Reply #683 on:]

True, so true. The scene is changed from one that is a focus on the scoundrel nature of Han's character to one that is focused on Greedo being the worst bounty hunter ever.

[Reply #684 on:]

 

Originally posted by M0le:
I might have been mentioning somewhere else that I didn't have Kazaa.
Dave A: [Angsty Teen]I'm not a kid! I'm sixteen![/Angsty Teen]

Sorry, M0le; no offense meant.

Hey, if you're ever in the US, and have seven hours to kill, stop by.  I have the original trilogy on VHS.

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Well, as a "kid" right now, I have only seen the original OT when I was about 5 to 8 and in school when I saw ESB on the older, but not original, VHS format.

When the OT was released on DVD, I was so excited to go get it, to only find out that it was the edited versions only.

I mean, any egotistical money savy guy would give what the people want in a release of a very wanted movie triology's original format. If he really is an egotistical money savy guy, he will release the NT on DVD a few months after RotS comes out on DVD, then he would release a special format of the NT about a half year after the NT DVD is released with all the edits he wanted and at this time would also release the OT in the original format on DVD, and then, about 5 months after the NT Edited DVD is released, he would release the NT/OT DVD set with the edited versions, and then, about six months after the NT/OT Edited DVD, he would finally release the NT/OT Original DVD set.

So, to put that on a time table:
May 19, 2005: RotS is released in theaters.
October 2005: RotS is released on DVD.
December 2005: NT is released on DVD.
June 2006: Special Edition NT is released on DVD.
June 2006: Original Edition OT is released on DVD.
November 2006: Special Edition NT/OT is released on DVD.
May 2007: Original Edition NT/OT is released on DVD.

Keep in mind this is just my estimates and my estimates only. This is probally not the real time table, but, it looks pretty close to what somebody that wanted to make millions would do.

Also, don't forget he's probally going to release all the movies in theaters.

And that's what somebody who's an egotistical money savy person with rights to a hot item in Hollywood would do if he wanted to get lots of money.

[Reply #686 on:]

who here thinks that star was ep3 is going to be the best one of them all

[Reply #687 on:]

Not I... not I.

[Reply #688 on:]

and why not? it's going to have the best special eff and also it will give everyone the last peies of info they need to put the hole story together.(excuse my spelling)

[Reply #689 on:]

Because, if it's anything like the previous prequels, it's going to contain:

- Absolutely cringe-worthy dialogue.
- Some of the blandest acting this side of a daytime soap.
- Some of the worst jokes in the history of humour.
- Aborted and unsatisfying action scenes.
- And some really unconvicing CG creatures.

I'm not getting my hopes up again.

[Reply #690 on:]

i disagree i think that lucas arts has come along way since ep2 and a lot of things have changed. he knows what the critics said about the other ones and he has lernt from his mistakes

[Reply #691 on:]

If you read up in Lucas, you'll realise that he doesn't give a damn about what people say about his movies. Hey, more power to him, but don't expect me to like them.

[Reply #692 on:]

fair enogh

[Reply #693 on:]

do you know how lucas come into his fourtune in the first place for him to make his own moives and not have the support of pruduction companys 

[Reply #694 on:]

I'm starting to wonder if you've even seen the original trilogy.

[Reply #695 on:]

who me???

[Reply #696 on:]

No, the other guy who posted twice before him.

[Reply #697 on:]

o cool

[Reply #698 on:]

SlackJawedMoron is'nt going to put me off i think the 3rd one will be the best one so far

[Reply #699 on:]

of cause it will thats what iv been trying to tell everyone!! at least i have some body backing me up.

[Reply #700 on:]

ill talk to guys tommorow.

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Originally posted by Zogonif:
SlackJawedMoron is'nt going to put me off i think the 3rd one will be the best one so far

Yes I will! YOU. WILL. NOT. LOOK. FORWARD. TO. EPISODE. 3. Grrr. Argh.

[Reply #702 on:]

Arrrrr Boogadee Boogadee Boogadee Boo ! to you too

[Reply #703 on:]

Damn. My one weakness.

[Reply #704 on:]

Your pathetic jedi has no effect on me SlackJawedMoron

[Reply #705 on:]

Does this?
*Kicks Zognif in the nuts*


Sorry for the mucho spamo. I'm bored tonight.

[Reply #706 on:]

Nothing happen Newhook_1,   Lets get back to the topic

[Reply #707 on:]

Can we stop with the ass-suckage spam in here?
I'm looking forward to Episode III, but I only expect it to be as good/bad as the other two prequels.
I liked certain bits of the other two (Duel-age, Liam Neeson-age and Clone-age), I'm sure I'll like bits of this one.

[Reply #708 on:]

I hope Episode III will be decent, and no Ewok Jedi will show in it.

Hell, It'll be decent when Jar Jar Binks doesn't show up at all, or dies when his shuttle is blown up and survives but stupidly presses the door release of his escape pod while floating in space so we can see him die in pure agony.

[Reply #709 on:]

Are you kidding me?  And Ewok Jedi would be the best thing ever.  A teddy bear with a lightsaber!  No!  Dual sabers!  I would so play a game as that.

[Reply #710 on:]

I agree.  An Ewok with a lightsaber would be awesome.

[Reply #711 on:]

I'm sure there is a Jedi Knight Academy or KOTOR Mod somewhere that allows such a thing.

[Reply #712 on:]

Has anyone heard about this game yet?  It looks like fun.  (I don't like the prequels, but I do like Legos.)

Plus, it's possible to kill Jar-Jar, so it has that going for it, too.

[Reply #713 on:]

I'm looking forward to EP3

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Pros:

• Closure: We all know what happens next, but it's cool to see it actually happen
• Darkness & Violence: Anakin slaughters the Jedi and if you watch the trailers closely, he slices up Nute Gunray and co - dicing fun with slicy, slicy Carol Sm - sorry, Lightsabers
• The good guys lose, and boy do they really lose (surely?)
• Tantive IV: Huzaah, a CR90, a proper ship at last!
  
• Pretty Violent Battles: This is where the CGI does work - Clone\Stormtroopers being blown or sliced to bits, or blasting Jedi to bits
• KOTOR: I've been put in the mood for Star Wars again - playing those two games has really opened an extra interest for me, sort of exapanding the whole thing two fold.

Does that make sense?

Cons:

• Dialouge: Harrison Ford may have said in 1976 "You can type this shit but you can't say it" - but I generally believe the dialouge of the first films are a league apart from those of the sequals...I have a horrible feeling this will not change with the last one. Seriously, I've watched EP1 quite a few times and I think if you just refine the dialogue, not even rewrite the storyline, just refine the dialogue - you'll have a much more believable and effective story.
• Acting: Need I say more. I don't think GL is neccassarily a bad director, I mean, he made his empire on films he directed - but you've got some great names in there - Liam Neeson, Ewan McGreggor, Samuel L Jackson, Christopher Lee, to name a few, and Natalie Portman and Hayden Christenssen (spelling?) have each turned in decent performances...elsewhere... I have no idea what it is, though filming them all effectively seperately from each other may have a detracting effect me personally thinks.
  
• Tries to be too clever: I like little nods to what will happen in the future, but some times these nods are made just too bloody obvious that they detract from the story - I'm not going to even get into what is "held" the cannon history of the Fall of the Republic before the Prequels came along. Where's the Z-95? Where's the Victory Class Star Destroyer? The Republic T.I.E doesn't look like that OMGWTF!?! Etc...
• I don't know where my local cinema is...

[Reply #714 on:]

I got this season's Lego catalog this week. I saw that

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the Clones' helmets look exactly like the Stormtroopers' helmets now, even though they are the Stormtroopers', and the Republic T.I.E was one of the things. I was like "SPOILER!". I know that all the Republic things are supposed to look like the Empire's, but seriously, spoiling the whole feel of the movie is kinda bad.

[Reply #715 on:]

 

Originally posted by Zed 85:

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• Dialogue: Harrison Ford may have said in 1976 "You can type this shit but you can't say it" - but I generally believe the dialouge of the first films are a league apart from those of the sequals...I have a horrible feeling this will not change with the last one. Seriously, I've watched EP1 quite a few times and I think if you just refine the dialogue, not even rewrite the storyline, just refine the dialogue - you'll have a much more believable and effective story.[/small]

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I think the big difference is that the original dialogue is played slightly tongue-in-cheek; i.e. the actors know that it's a bit on the cheesy side, but they twist that and use it to their advantage.

In the prequels, everything is played straight. And in actual fact I think it makes it less believable.

[Reply #716 on:]

George only wrote for the A New Hope, two seperate chaps wrote Empire and Jedi.

The writing isn't that bad, sometimes it is the actor like that kid who played Young Anakin in Episode I. Anakin was suppose to be a hopeless Slave, but that kid acted Anakin as a pretty happy well ballanced type that doesn't grow up to become one of the most feared Sith since Exar Kun.

I agree with Zed though, where are the Headhunters and Corporate Sector?

[Reply #717 on:]

Child acting is very tough, he might have been better off making Anakin CGI.

[Reply #718 on:]

Indeed, a CGI Anakin would have been a lot better.

Or a mute kid.

[Reply #719 on:]

How about starting it off when he was born or a little baby and the Jedi finding out then? It would cut out the talking of Anakin and we could still have the same story, though the events in Episode 1 would take place earlier and Padme wouldn't really be in the first Episode.