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« Reply #40 on: 04-15-2004 01:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Jar-Jar, sitting in for Padme Amidala as their planets representative in the Galactic Senate, is the one who suggest giving Palpatine emergency powers and carte blanche to use force to remove the threat to the Republic, in short making Palpatine dictator. It's doubtful any of the seasoned politicians in the Senate would've suggested this, but being a novice Jar-Jar doesn't know the full consequences of his proposal, but once Pandora's Box is opened the rest of the Senate agrees.
And now you know why Gundams aren't seen in the earlier episodes.
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« Reply #41 on: 04-15-2004 02:54 »
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Does George Lucas have any original ideas anymore, or will he simply mooch off all of his old creations until he's sucked them dry?

I hated episodes I and II, especially those gosh awful romance bits.

I think it's even worse that Indiana Jones will also soon feel Lucas' wrath.
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« Reply #42 on: 04-15-2004 03:33 »

Anywho, Force Commander was the crappest Star Wars game EVER.
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« Reply #43 on: 04-15-2004 07:46 »

Ahem. Rebel Assault One AND Two. So there.

Anyone one else have an interest in the novels? Screw all the new villians in the movies, Thrawn owns them ALL.
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« Reply #44 on: 04-15-2004 10:33 »
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
And now you know why Gundams aren't seen in the earlier episodes.

I don't recall seeing giant battle mechs in any of the films.

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« Reply #45 on: 04-15-2004 12:23 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Anyone one else have an interest in the novels? Screw all the new villians in the movies, Thrawn owns them ALL.

Yeah, I do enjoy the novels as well. I agree that Admiral Thrawn does own the new villains, but if he was to appear it would have been in the middle episodes.
Thrawn would then have had to compete with Vader, and for me Vader is too dominating a screen presence for Thrawn to exist.
Having said that though I'd prefer seeing Thrawn to enemies such as Grievous.

With the novels, I enjoy the later ones after the movies. The Yuuzhan Vong threat is far more interesting than any plot line established in the movies.
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« Reply #46 on: 04-15-2004 12:27 »

I kinda liked the New Jedi Order series...
I though it went into a slump after Star by Star, though it all came together nicely in the end.

Still, it has to be said that Tsavong Lah's death sucked noodles.  no no


"But... it was so artistically done..."  cry
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« Reply #47 on: 04-15-2004 14:14 »

I've read "Shadows of the Empire" and the orginal Han Solo trilogy. They were alright, but not the same as watching "The Empire Strikes Back", "Return Of The Jedi", or "A New Hope" for the first time.

I really hope that Episode 3 is good. I didn't really like Episode 1 all that much, and I thought Episode 2 was ok, so hopfully the quality climb will continue and Episode 3 will be the best of the PT.
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« Reply #48 on: 04-15-2004 14:36 »

 
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  I don't recall seeing giant battle mechs in any of the films.

Nobody likes a smart arse, Nixy.

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« Reply #49 on: 04-15-2004 23:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Jar-Jar, sitting in for Padme Amidala as their planets representative in the Galactic Senate, is the one who suggest giving Palpatine emergency powers and carte blanche to use force to remove the threat to the Republic, in short making Palpatine dictator. It's doubtful any of the seasoned politicians in the Senate would've suggested this, but being a novice Jar-Jar doesn't know the full consequences of his proposal, but once Pandora's Box is opened the rest of the Senate agrees.
And now you know why Gundams aren't seen in the earlier episodes.

Make his entire race pay for his mistake. I like it evil laugh
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« Reply #50 on: 04-16-2004 01:44 »

I've read a lot of the older novels, but not too many of the newer Yuuzhan Vong novels. I think I read the one where Tsavong Lah died. Was he on a battleship/station and the Lusankya crashed into it?
As for Thrawn, he was one hell of a bad guy. I've forgotten the names of half of the books, but my favourite part of them was the Kyp Durron/Prototype Death Star/Sun Crusher series. So many interesting characters.
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« Reply #51 on: 04-16-2004 01:49 »

Also, Thrawn indeed PWNZ.
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« Reply #52 on: 04-16-2004 02:36 »

 
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I haven't got a life, me and OC dream about pretending to be gay Stormtroopers if we ever get it.

Hey! That's mine and Jeremy's territory! Hands off!

Then Jeremy and LAN get stuck in a floating all-girls Catholic school and have to pretend to be gay janitors!
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« Reply #53 on: 04-16-2004 02:47 »

No, be gay Rebel Pilots or something.
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« Reply #54 on: 04-16-2004 02:57 »
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I haven't got a life, me and OC dream about pretending to be gay Stormtroopers if we ever get it.



I had no Life when I started on the MUDS, by the end I was Masturbating myself to sleep everynight In a puddle of my own Vomit.

Its not Worth It!
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« Reply #55 on: 04-16-2004 03:05 »

I masturbate anyway and fall asleep in whatever I can find, I'm British.
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« Reply #56 on: 04-16-2004 05:40 »

Talk about Star Wars or lose the thread  no no
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« Reply #57 on: 04-16-2004 07:34 »

 
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orginally posted by M0le
 I think I read the one where Tsavong Lah died. Was he on a battleship/station and the Lusankya crashed into it?

nah.. that was Czulkang Lah, his elderly farther. Heh... Yuuzhan Vong ships bleed...

I'm a pretty bug EU nut, so direct all questions regarding it to me...  big grin
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« Reply #58 on: 04-16-2004 10:02 »

 
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When will people learn, we've reached special effects and graphics version of the glass ceiling?! Focus more on the content of the dammed storyline! arrrgghhh.....

Ah, Nurdy, if only you had been there to tell that to George Lucas before he ruined the original trilogy with that "Special Edition" crap, or before he added injury to insult with The Phantom Menace.

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Well... on the upside, it's a robot/cyborg thingy... Using CG to render living things is always a mistake (with perhaps the sole exception of Sméagol, in The Lord of the Rings), but it works okay for automatons. Kinda. Well the battle droids are alright.

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
And now you know why Gundams aren't seen in the earlier episodes.

 laff  Best typo ever.

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Anyone one else have an interest in the novels? Screw all the new villians in the movies, Thrawn owns them ALL.

Agreed.  Also, I'll take Mara Jade over Queen Abbydabby anyday.

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« Reply #59 on: 04-16-2004 15:17 »

 
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Talk about Star Wars or lose the thread   no no
We're Talking About Star Wars Galaxies.

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« Reply #60 on: 04-16-2004 18:28 »

Oooh, an official general Star Wars thread. I'm a fan.

Quick thoughts on the prequels: as a Star Wars fan, I walked out of the theater loving both of them. I'm not blind to their flaws, and I realize that most of my love for them comes from having seen the originals--but so what? The original trilogy is like my favorite set of movies EVER. As far as I'm concerned, nothing will ever beat them. But I like seeing the story completed, and there's a lot of cool new ships and villains and stuff.

The prequels don't hold up as well for me, on repeated viewings, but I still say they are better than most summer blockbustery pieces of crap. I don't get all the nerds who act like they are the worst movies ever.

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Well... on the upside, it's a robot/cyborg thingy... Using CG to render living things is always a mistake (with perhaps the sole exception of Jurassic Park), but it works okay for automatons. Kinda. Well the battle droids are alright.

"Alright"? I thought the battle droids were amazing(special effects-wise). Seriously, I completely bought into them. A lot of the other CGI effects have failed for me(including the Super Battle Droids, which always seem to look fake for some reason), but I thought the normal-sized battle droids looked real.

 
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Originally posted by Gocad(regarding episode III being the darkest one):
 Lucas said that also about Episode One and Episode Two.

False! Trust me--I'm a nerd. I remember reading way back before the special editions came out. Lucas had an interview or something, where he basically summed up the prequel trilogy. Episode one is a lighthearted adventure starring a young Anakin. Episode two takes place ten years later, and and he gets married. Episode three is the dark one, where he becomes Vader.

Not that darkness matters to me. I don't care if it's dark, I just want it to be GOOD. Temple of Doom was the "darkest" Indiana Jones movie, but it certainly wasn't GOOD like the other two.

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
The best thing that could happen is that Hayden Christenson learned how to act and Natalie Portman learned how to emote in the last 3 years.

Pffft...Hayden is fine. (and dreamy!) Natalie Portman sucks so much, though.

I read on AICN that Lucas and Portman "butted heads", and as a result she was almost recast with Keira Knightly. They couldn't get Keira, but apparently they reduced Padme's role as much as possible. She basically just serves her purpose as a walking womb.

Do I believe it? I don't know...AICN is pretty crummy when it comes to Star Wars rumors. And the Keira Knightly thing sounds pretty wacky. But hopefully the rumor has some basis in reality. I think it's clear that Portman was bored by Star Wars from the start, so I can see her coming onto the set of episode III and throwing a hissy fit and just generally being a bitch. Hopefully they did reduce her role. The less she talks, the better.

 
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Does George Lucas have any original ideas anymore, or will he simply mooch off all of his old creations until he's sucked them dry?

I think it's even worse that Indiana Jones will also soon feel Lucas' wrath.

Lucas gets such a bad rap from internet nerds. I know he's a greedy bastard, and I hate a lot of his decisions too. But he's the one who rejected the newest Indy IV script. It looks to me like he's the one who wants to let Indy rest in peace.
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« Reply #61 on: 04-16-2004 18:46 »

Double-posting because I'm a jackass...

I thought I'd add that I hate the special editions. And yet, I'll probably get the DVDs because I am a sucker.

Also, I'm trying to stay relatively spoiler free for episode III. I know about Grevious though. I can't say I'm too terribly impressed...but somehow I doubt he's going to be a huge character. I see him as another Darth Maul...the overhyped villain who gets five minutes of screen time, one cool action sequence and a quick death.

I missed his episode of Clone Wars. Was it any good? How about John Dimaggio's voice? Was it cool, or too Bender-ey?

Also, if anyone is following spoilers...how is episode three sounding overall? Man, I hope it's good. This is the make-it-or-break-it episode. I liked the first two prequels, but my enjoyment could so easily be killed with a crappy movie here. But a great movie would make me appreciate the entire series that much more.
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« Reply #62 on: 04-16-2004 19:46 »

In the Clone Wars episode, the character doesn't speak much (you might have noticed that all of the episodes are short on dialogue) and his voice is electronically altered so it's really hard to tell who's doing it.  But I wonder if DiMaggio is doing it in the movie as well.
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« Reply #63 on: 04-16-2004 21:30 »

Grrr! I hate living where I do- No Clone Wars for me at all...

On with it: I had a bit of trouble with all the CG in the SEs. They all just fell short- even for that time (but the Outrider cameo was truly great). A lot of people were really worked up about Han and Jabbas conversation because they had no idea why Jabba was after Han's ass. But for some reason the crappy eyes they gave him really ruined that whole scene. It might have been good to ad that conversation, but it seemed rushed and as a result, Jabba looked like a crullily painted latex tentacle with marble eyes... and since I already knew the story, I really wasn't that enlightened.
There are so many tiny things about the SEs that they shouldn't have done (you know of what I speak).
But yes- I will get the DVD set.

On the prequels: I like the rough storyline, but again, some things shouldn't have been done- I felt everything that took place in the Naboo swamps (including Otoh Gunga and all its inhabitants) was entirely unnecessary.
Kill off Jar-Jar (but that's pretty much dealt with in the above paragraph).
Also, the podrace was too lengthy with all the standard issue accidents (with bursting hoses replaced with defective engine binders, etc.) We knew how it would turn out- Anakin wins narrow victory- Sebulba eats dirt in some embarrasing way... on with it, dammit (though Jabba was a great character to include here- and it was an opportunity to give Warwick Davis a short cameo).
Anakin as a starfighter ace- goes without saying that this is one of the times where a child as the ultimate hero was not a good solution (it's NEVER a good solution).

In the next one, I was particularly sickened by Anakin and Padmé frolicking like that. It was completely out of tune with the movie style.
I was also surprised that Mace caught Jango off his guard like that- we saw him almost kick ass on Obi-Wan, so why did he slack off when it really mattered? Surely Mace is a great jedi, but Jango hardly even flexed a muscle.
Like Fishy, I was disappointed with the "super" battle droids. They seemed so much more wobbly and clanky than the lesser ones- I would have expected them to be tough, sturdy, well-oiled stable machines, but these droids looked like they were falling apart at the joints.
I don't know why they replaced Yoda completely with a CG character- I understand why it had to be done during the duel, but all other shots would be perfectly suitable for a puppet.
My number one gripe of E2: Everything that went on with C-3PO and R2D2 on Geonosia was lame, rediculous and out of character. Back in the classic trilogy, they were complimenting each other like Laurel and Hardy, but in E2, 3PO was ripping pretty much the same jokes you'd hear from Jasper Carrot whilst being dragged and carried through the scene by R2 and that battle droid. Why do they feel they have to have characters that appeal to children? There was none of this in the calssic trilogy (if you ignore the ewoks- they had a bunch of crappy jokes). I mean- I was almost a mere fetus when I saw the classics, and it appealed to me right away without shitty clowning and childish gags.
But it was a close race between the above and and the sentence "Around the survivors a perimeter create". It was forced completely- that's not the way Yoda talks. The only reason this didn't take the prize as the suckiest E2 sin is because it's just too short, while 3PO horsed about during the whole Geonisian arena scene and a while before that.
Kaminoans: Too gangly, stoned and looked clearly CG.

But I gotta say I love the way they juiced up the lightsaber duels. They are way more dynamic like they should be, considering that jedis have the very power of all creation flowing through them... This also added the seven forms of lightsaber technique to the expanded universe. I was disappointed when Anakin used two sabers- I had seen the short glimpse in the trailer, and I was all excited to get to see this... but he does only do that for a few seconds- the bit we saw in the trailer was almost all of it. What the fuck! But all in all, the lightsabers (#1 coolest weapon of all time) and the usage is the thing that I was really impressed by. Good decision by Lucas, really.

As whole, I actually liked the prequels because of the storyline, design, duels and 70% of the characters. It's just funnier to display your geekdom by showing off how much stuff you noticed and how loyal you are to the fel of the original SW universe.

A small toplist- just because I want to reminisce.
-Favourite villain: Grand Admiral Thrawn- highest ranking non-human in the Empire at the time of the battle of Endor. Closely followed by Boba Fett.
-Favourite jedi: Mara Jade- too cool and hot.
-Favourite personal vehicle: Speeder bike.
-Favourite space superiority starfighter: TIE Interceptor or X-wing.
-Favourite starship: The Executor or any Mon Calamari cruiser.
-Favourite race: Noghri.
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« Reply #64 on: 04-16-2004 21:47 »
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I was raised on Star Wars, but I have to say that episodes 1 and 2 were abysmal. Episode 1 was killed by that stupid JarJar Binks. I was disappointed at the end of the movie when he didn't die. Anyone who speaks like him should get shot, in Henry Higgins' words, "for the cold blooded murder of the English tongue." And as for the second episode? That was shot down by Hayden Christenson's over acting, or maybe it was the writers' faults that the character of Anakin became such a whiny, annoying brat that is starting to get on my nerves even more than JarJar. The original movies were much better, and it's a shame that there are such horrible movies as star wars 1 and 2 that taint George Lucas' name.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.   big grin
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« Reply #65 on: 04-16-2004 21:58 »
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I don't think Hayden Christensen did a bad job as Anakin- we all know that Lucas isn't really a great acting director.
...one thing I will say in Natalie Portman's defense is that I liked that weird tone she used when she spoke in the senate in E1. Otherwise, I just think it's the character she's partraying that doesn't really leave much room for exploring aspects. Padmé is a one-sided character. Not like other strong SW females like Leia or Mara Jade.
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« Reply #66 on: 04-16-2004 22:36 »
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Here's my list of favourite things, similar to Pikka Birds.
- Favourite villain: Grand Admiral Thrawn, he is one hell of a bad guy and was nearly invincible if it weren't for the Noghri. Boba Fett doesn't go in this category for me, either does any other Bounty Hunters as I don't consider them 'evil'.
- Favourite Jedi: Darth Vader, not Anakin, I hate him. Just Darth Vader.
- Favourite personal vehicle: Land Speeder.
- Favourite space superiority starfighter: They're all cool to look at, but I liked the A-Wing or X-Wing best.
- Favourite starship: The Exucutor, by far. The way it was taken down was quite funny to watch.
- Favourite race: Twilek
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« Reply #67 on: 04-16-2004 22:39 »

It's Hayden.  Haydn was a composer.  And the Clone Wars shorts were until recently available for free on Cartoon Network's site.  Now I think they're only available in the pay area of the official Star Wars site.  But they weren't all that good, really.
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« Reply #68 on: 04-16-2004 22:43 »

It was a typo.

I don't care if they were spectacularly great, I just want to see them- maybe some p2p will be my saviour...

M0le: The female Twi'lek are quite hot... I think my costume for the Ep3 premiere will include Twi'lek lekku... and a machined lightsaber.
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« Reply #69 on: 04-16-2004 23:37 »

The Clone Wars shorts are also only available in the US, on the CN site anyways.

The only experience I have with the extended universe is the JK games and 3 graphic novels including Mara Jade: The Hand of The Emporer, and it was ok, nothing spectacular about a fit, half Jedi.  hmpf

Pikka: I beg you, for the good of humanity, don't dress up for premieres.
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« Reply #70 on: 04-17-2004 02:12 »

Find a good looking prostitute to dress up, and use a leash.

'You may be Chewwie, But I have something better!'

Villan: Thrawn. *Remembers 'The Glove of Darth Vader*
Jedi: RotJ Luke, complete with cape, fake hand and green light sabre.
Personal Vehicle: The Falcon.
Favourite space Starfighter: X-Wing/TIE Interceptor.
Favourite Races: Female Twi'Lek and Wookies.

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« Reply #71 on: 04-17-2004 02:46 »

I love C-3PO. He was so awesome in the original trilogy.

He seemed really forced into episodes one and two, though. I remember back when Lucas was planning nine episodes, R2-D2 and C-3PO were going to be the only characters to show up for every episode. The story was going to be told "from their point of view".

What the hell happened?

Artoo is still pretty cool, but it seems obvious that 3PO has no place in these movies. Both his comedy and his part in the movies have seemed forced. I thought his episode two antics were slightly better than episode one--I think having Anthony Daniels in an actual suit was a good move(as opposed to the damn puppet).
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« Reply #72 on: 04-17-2004 08:25 »
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Oh, GOD! You just reminded me of C-3PO's incredibly bad jokes... I'll kill you! Arrrgh...

Anyway... Villian: Thrawn (closely followed by Nom Anor... the loveable creep)
Jedi: Corran Horn... or maybe Mace Windu (just for Shatterpoint)
Starfighter: Tie Defender. Ridiculously overpowered. Just the ways I likes it.
Capital Ship: Good 'ole Executor. I loved it's destrucion sequence, too.
Race: Gand. Because they talk funny.
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« Reply #73 on: 04-17-2004 08:46 »

Peel Offical Star Wars Thread..
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« Reply #74 on: 04-17-2004 09:00 »

My Grades for the Star Wars movies(so far):
Episode 1:B+
Episode 2:A-

Episode 4:A+
Episode 5:A-
Episode 6:B

I also saw the most destirbing ataver at an Invader Zim message board where t says"Say hello to Dark Anikan"It also has the guy who plays Anikan saking his head violently.
It was very disturing.
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« Reply #75 on: 04-17-2004 10:44 »

This favourites thing looks like good fun, so I believe I'll give it a go

Favourite Villain- Admiral Thrawn, I would say Ulic Qel-Droma, but he is not really a villain

Favourite Jedi- Arca Jeth. Truly an excellent Jedi in the greatest period of the Jedi

Vehicle- A-Wing, underrated

Warship- The Mon Calamari Warships are quite something

Race- Yuuzhan Vong, for their evil backwardness; or Noghiri

Planet- I like harsh planets, so any one of Hoth, Kamino or Kessel

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« Reply #76 on: 04-17-2004 12:06 »

Well, if we're making lists, here's mine:

-Favorite villain: Well, if Boba Fett doesn't count as a villain (and I agree that he shouldn't), I'd have to say Darth Vader.
-Favorite jedi: Luke Skywalker.
-Favorite personal vehicle: Land Speeder.
-Favorite starfighter: X-wing.
-Favorite starship: Star Destroyer.  The opening scene of the first film is still one of the coolest scenes in all of sci-fi.
-Favorite race: Would it be boring to say humans?  Um, I dunno.  The Mon Calamari and Trandoshans are pretty cool looking races.  I also like the Gamorrean Guards, since they're basically just orcs.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
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« Reply #77 on: 04-17-2004 12:23 »

Favorite Villain: Palpatine
Favorite Jedi: Obi-Wan Kenobi
Favorite Personal Vehicle: Swoop (As far as I know only appears in EU)
Favorite Starfighter: X-Wing
Faveorite Starship: Super Star Destroyer
Favorite Race: Twi'Lek (I love the whole head tale thing)
Favorite Droid: C-3PO
Favorite Rebel That Dies In A Firey Crash: Jek "Red Six" Porkins (What a sexy beast)
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« Reply #78 on: 04-17-2004 12:53 »
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I also saw the most destirbing ataver at an Invader Zim message board where t says"Say hello to Dark Anikan"It also has the guy who plays Anikan saking his head violently.
It was very disturing.

What the hell? have dyslexic
parasetic worms burrowed into your brain?

EDIT:
Planet: The 'moon' of Endor, apart from those dammed Ewoks.

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« Reply #79 on: 04-17-2004 13:15 »

That's just too funny coming from you.

@~Faze~: You can't bend my will like that- the force is weak with you.
Besides, I am a wizard on a sewing machine and with leather tools, and I have dressed up for the LOTR premieres as well...

I'm glad someone agrees with my view upon C-3PO's role in the prequels.
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