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« Reply #80 on: 06-03-2003 16:13 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2003 16:13 »

edit: I hate it when old posts resurect from the dead pool...
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« Reply #81 on: 06-03-2003 19:10 »

First, read the date that Ninaka posted that on.
Second, realise Ninaka's is effectively, an ex-PEELer!!
She's in Canadia now without any............. well, civilisation.
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« Reply #82 on: 06-03-2003 19:36 »

Some figures to consider...

First ep. of Voyager - 13 million viewers
Final ep. of Voyager - 5 million viewers
Current Enterprise eps. - 3 million viewers

Incidentally, S2 of Enterprise is Star Trek's 26th season.  Doctor Who lasted 26 seasons, and was only pulling in 3 million viewers when it was axed.

Enterprise is carrying on for a third year, but the end might be closer than you think...
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« Reply #83 on: 06-04-2003 03:44 »

Fred, are those US viewing figures? If so three million there is worse than three million that Dr Who got in the UK, as percentage of viewers would be lower.
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« Reply #84 on: 06-04-2003 04:21 »

Keep in mind, that UPN started with the debut of Voyager, but as far as I know, UPN is still not as successful as orginally intended.

There are also rumors that Viacom might want to get rid of UPN, because it costs too much.
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« Reply #85 on: 06-04-2003 05:58 »

Nanaka posts occasionally.
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« Reply #86 on: 06-04-2003 19:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Tweek:
Fred, are those US viewing figures? If so three million there is worse than three million that Dr Who got in the UK, as percentage of viewers would be lower.

US viewing figures.  Actually DW's weren't that bad, considering the show was placed directly opposite Coronation Street, but BBC Controller Michael Grade didn't like the show, and that was that.
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« Reply #87 on: 06-09-2003 07:15 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2003 07:15 »

Its a different game now, If a show isnt a Rip-Roaring hit, then its not worth it. Any good futurama fan should know that. Tha attitude's certainly not helping to stem the tide of Reality TV either.
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« Reply #88 on: 05-27-2004 19:09 »

Boy that episode kicked ass.

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« Reply #89 on: 05-27-2004 23:08 »

Yep, th-is Season has been great and the finale was a awesome way to end the Expanse  Storyline with a nice juicy cliffhanger.
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« Reply #90 on: 05-30-2004 19:04 »

I finally got around to watching the finale of Enterprise.  You're right, that was quite a cliffhanger.  I can't say I really expected it, that was pretty good.  I look forward to seeing what they do with it next season.
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« Reply #91 on: 05-31-2004 00:23 »

yep, if defintely was one of the weirdest cliffhangers ever, and it's making me count the days until the Sept. Season Premier.
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« Reply #92 on: 05-31-2004 01:06 »

i dont see why they make it sooner it irritates me wating
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« Reply #93 on: 05-31-2004 05:40 »

After an especially mediocre season, I have to say that the last 5-6 eps have been a joy to watch.

Can't wait till it starts again now  smile
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« Reply #94 on: 05-31-2004 05:47 »
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As usual, Nazi's can be used to help anything. ANYTHING.
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« Reply #95 on: 05-31-2004 07:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Stuart B:
After an especially mediocre season, I have to say that the last 5-6 eps have been a joy to watch.

I think overall, this has been one of the best seasons in StarTrek history, let alone the best of the series so far. It has been very consistant in the quality of the episodes, and most have been an absolute joy to watch. I think this really could be the turning point in the series.

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« Reply #96 on: 05-31-2004 08:35 »
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"Evil alien nazis"? As opposed to "good alien nazis"?    tongue

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« Reply #97 on: 05-31-2004 08:38 »

the "evil" makes em sound edgy and cool. "Nazi aliens" sounds like those aliens from that episode of TOS.
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« Reply #98 on: 05-31-2004 09:12 »

indeed, an interesting season finale.
then again, it makes you think that the writers didn't really believe that there would be another season...  wink

also, did they travel back in time or not?  confused
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« Reply #99 on: 05-31-2004 09:45 »

Nazis here, nazis there. They even were in Voyager.

I like the continuing storyline. They must have listened to fans who blamed the makers of not enough consistency.
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« Reply #100 on: 05-31-2004 10:00 »

I think the season long storyline was a great idea. They really needed more edgy-ness and gripping storyline (which the Xindi-plot certainly was). And i hope that the fan base grew a bit after this past season.
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« Reply #101 on: 05-31-2004 11:53 »

Saw this posted on another forum, seemed to fit a lot of the feelings on the finale quiet well:

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« Reply #102 on: 05-31-2004 12:11 »
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indeed. that's a very accurate summary.    smile
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« Reply #103 on: 05-31-2004 15:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
indeed. that's a very accurate summary.     smile

'Cept for the hand flipping me off from inside the TV, thats pretty much what happened to me too.

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« Reply #104 on: 05-31-2004 18:55 »

 
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also, did they travel back in time or not?   confused

I don't know.  It seems like nothing changed as far as the Zindi or anything on Enterprise.  Maybe they only changed Earth history?  I wonder how they'll explain it.

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« Reply #105 on: 06-01-2004 03:27 »

So they stopped all Xindi attacks, fixing the crimes  that the show has commited? Or will I just have to wait til they play it here?
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« Reply #106 on: 06-02-2004 18:26 »

ooh, you live down in Austrailia? That hurts. I guess you'll just have to wait and see what happens, Grim...
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« Reply #107 on: 06-07-2004 07:23 »

There is some speculation about the mystery alien in the cliffhanger episode. Some say it could be a Reman.

from http://www.ditl.org/

 http://www.ditl.org/gpaf/GMysteryAlien1.jpg


 http://www.ditl.org/gpns/GReman3.jpg


The season 3 finale of Enterprise featured a cliffhanger ending in which the ship finds itself apparently back on 1940s Earth. Whilst Enterprise sends a shuttlepod down to San Francisco and is fired upon by US aircraft, Archer finds himself in a Nazi field hospital. The very last scene shows an alien dressed in a Nazi uniform staring grimly down at Archer.

There has been much speculation that this mystery alien is a Reman, a species first seen in Nemesis and apparently cousins of the Romulans. This article is going to have a look at the two side by side and try to get at the truth.
   
Arguments for and against:


Remans are only comfortable in the dark. The scene the mystery alien appears in is dark.

The mystery alien's skin colouring is, as far as lighting allows us to judge, almost identical to a Reman's.

Remans would be expected to be enemies of Earth at this point; the mystery alien is, presumably, hostile/evil.
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The mystery alien has red eyes. Remans do not.

The mystery alien has two small ridges on his bottom lip. Remans do not.

Reman ears curve outwards. The mystery alien's do not.


Remans have a built up ridge around their eyes, which has a break in the middle. The mystery alien does not.
   
The mystery alien has a prominent V-shaped ridge beginning at his nose. Remans do not.
   
The mystery alien has jowls to the sides of his mouth. Remans do not.

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« Reply #108 on: 06-07-2004 07:39 »

It could just be like the Reptilians, which were re-used Reman costumes.
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« Reply #109 on: 06-07-2004 09:12 »

Hmmm, that'd be cool if it was a Reman. I loved Nemesis and their character in it. If it was a Reman, there would be no backlash from Trekkies saying that there was no visual contact between Humans and Romulans until TOS. But they never said anything about Remans...
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« Reply #110 on: 06-07-2004 14:15 »

*cringes at the mention of the word 'Nemesis', then vomits*   puke
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« Reply #111 on: 06-07-2004 15:29 »

There is this guy on a Trek forum that I visit on occasion that supposedly works on the show (everyone there takes his word as the gospel truth, so I'm assuming he proved it somehow), and according to him, the mystery alien was scripted as a never-before-seen alien. (of course, this could just be some guy on a message board, but I thought it was interesting). That, and, IMO, it doesn't look any more like a Reman than any other of Star Trek's various aliens have. There are only so many different looks that are possible with the way Star Trek does it's non-Earth life.  I'm surprised that people even made that connection seriously, to be honest.
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« Reply #112 on: 06-07-2004 15:46 »

IMO, the mystery alien looks too blue to be a Reman.
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« Reply #113 on: 06-07-2004 18:05 »

 
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*cringes at the mention of the word 'Nemesis', then vomits*    puke

 eek
What?! Nemesis was a great f'n Trek movie! It was heavily underrated due to lack of ticket and DVD sales. 

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« Reply #114 on: 06-07-2004 23:21 »

 
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   eek
What?! Nemesis was a great f'n Trek movie! It was heavily underrated due to lack of ticket and DVD sales. 


I don't know, I saw the film and I thought it was pretty bland.  It wasn't that good, IMO.
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« Reply #115 on: 06-07-2004 23:41 »

 
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 I don't know, I saw the film and I thought it was pretty bland.  It wasn't that good, IMO.

it wasnt as good as III or First Contact, but i thought it was a fantastic end to the TNG saga.

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« Reply #116 on: 06-08-2004 05:51 »

 
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What?! Nemesis was a great f'n Trek movie! It was heavily underrated due to lack of ticket and DVD sales.

I think Nemesis was successful -
proving that not all even-numbered ST movies are good...  mad
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« Reply #117 on: 06-08-2004 06:33 »

The season finale was really good.

How did archer possibly survive that explosion though?  And land on earth (considering it blew up in space) in 1940 something?
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« Reply #118 on: 06-08-2004 06:41 »

 
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The season finale was really good.
indeed.  smile

 
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Originally posted by winna:
How did archer possibly survive that explosion though?
blame the wizards! good question...  wink

 
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Originally posted by winna:
And land on earth (considering it blew up in space) in 1940 something?

I'm not sure whether they have travelled back in time, since Enterprise was brought back to earth by the Aquatics...I think development on Earth was disrupted...and it might have something to do with this Temporal Cold War thing they have been hinting at throughout the entire series.

But for now I guess we no choice but to wait until September, when the new season begins...
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« Reply #119 on: 06-08-2004 06:42 »
« Last Edit on: 06-08-2004 06:42 »

Nemesis was quite obviously a rip-off of Star Trek 2, but not done nearly as well. The whole Picard/Shinzon thing seemed forced, the plot was predictable and the character 'death' at the end was a cop-out. Even my mum hated it, and that takes a lot   wink

EDIT- Also, A selection of Nemesis' plot-holes
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