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DotheBartman

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« Reply #680 on: 10-01-2004 18:12 »
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It was WAY back, maybe "Fear of Flying".  I don't consider such a small error like that to be that big a deal (continuity is not king on The Simpsons), though that doesn't make "Margical" any better.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the sock puppets bit was in season five, yet I can't for the life of me remember which episode (and the SNPP search engine is temporarily down).
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #681 on: 10-01-2004 18:13 »

The one where Marge is scared of flying I think.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #682 on: 10-01-2004 18:21 »

Yep, you're right, and so was my initial instinct.  It was "Fear of Flying". 

The capsule also notes that, technically, that joke conflicts with "Homer Alone" where he had no trouble with sock puppets.
leelaholic

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« Reply #683 on: 10-01-2004 18:26 »

Maybe he contracted Sockaphobia after/during "Homer Alone". He probably had to do his own laundry while Marge was gone, and that made him realize how bad his socks smelled. He was never the same again...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #684 on: 10-01-2004 18:28 »

Actually, what's even sadder is that I think I tried to figure out which episode had the sock puppet joke earlier (either in this thread or some other), several months ago I think.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #685 on: 10-01-2004 22:38 »

Okay, I'm gonna try to review a couple of eps from earlier this season that I'd missed.

My Mother the Carjacker

The hell with 'My Mother the Carjacker.' I hereby state that any comparison made with MMTC to classic era to be ludicrous. Sure, it plotted well, had a couple of good montages (maybe I was bias because I liked the songs) and the charcters were okay, but it was about as funny as a heart attack (yes, Homer's Triple Bypass made that funny, but I'm talking about a regular one). And, as I've been saying for years now, humour is why I watch the show. Also, that rather high-pitched whingy quality that Homer' voice now has is rather prevelent in this ep, and I hate that. Not a wonderful effort.

C- And I'm being generous.


'Tis the Fifteenth Season

Futher crazy 'meh' action! Had a few good lines, so it didn't suck outright, but now that it's the day after I say it, I can't remember much about it. Not a good sign.

C

I saw the first part of The Wandering Juvie, which didn't change my opinion of the episode as a whole. However, I must once again admire how good this episode looked. For my score, er... [C-]. See earlier review for more vagueness.

Let's see, that just leaves The Regina Monologues, and I, Do'hbot. I'm not looking forward to the first, and the second has been hyped up a fair bit, so I'm bound to be disapointed.

Hell, the only episodes this season that have lived up to the hype surrounding them are Simple Simpson and The Way we Weren't. Best season since 9? Arguably, though I'll say here that that doesn't mean much.
M0le

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« Reply #686 on: 10-02-2004 01:09 »

I, Do'hbot was definately one of the better episodes in Season 15, and while The Regina Monologues was very half hearted, you Brits never should have bitched about the stereotyping. Try Bart vs Australiatongue

So far I've missed My Mother the Carjacker, The Ziff who came to Dinner and The Way we Weren't. That just leaves Fraudcast News for us now, right?
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #687 on: 10-02-2004 01:12 »

We've also got Bart Mangled Banner to look forward to. Though, of you'll browse the reviews here, you'll find that it wasn't very well recieved. I scared already.
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« Reply #688 on: 10-02-2004 04:26 »

Regina sucked. 'Let's go to England using one of Grandpa's sluts as an excuse' plotline sucked. Dammit, I thought Grandpa fought in the Battle of the Bulge.

I hate that episode with a vengence. They never stepped out London and promoted several lame ass Class B British celebs nobody cares about.

Also, nobody gives a toss about the Royal Family in the country.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #689 on: 10-02-2004 09:17 »

Yeah Regina kind of sucked it'ss not the innacurate sterotypes that bother me its that the episode was just written to be a wacky gag based vacation episode, which is fine if your Itchy and Scratchy land or Bart vs Australia (and maybe others I forget) but the thing is there were very few jokes here that were actually funny.
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #690 on: 10-02-2004 10:45 »
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I saw Regina reviewed on some pretentious british late nite review thing. One of the reviewers had never seen The Simpsons before and he said it was one of the funniest things he'd ever seen! Another was a big fan and he said it was pretty average. I guess that proves that bad Simpsons episodes are only bad when compared to good ones, they're still great TV.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #691 on: 10-02-2004 10:50 »

Unless you're me, who says they often suck very badly.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #692 on: 10-02-2004 18:43 »

A reminder to U.K viewers.
on Sky1 tommorow.
6:30pm My Big Fat Geek Wedding
7:30pm The Wandering Juvie

It could be a good day for me If Chelsea beat Liverpool and then hopefully the Simpsons will be good.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #693 on: 10-03-2004 16:54 »

I've seen a couple more eps now...

"Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays". Another poor episode, had it’s moments (Bart and Lisa’s fight over the TV remote), but as it progressed, so did the disappointment. And I hate that Lindsey Naegle character , the show was so much better off without her.

"I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot". I loved the beginning to this ep, with Millhouse running to Bart's; all excited, then ending with Homer opening the door into him and saying he’s the weird kid. One of the best openings of the show. The bike ride with the bullies was quite nice too, but as snoon as the Snowball storyline crept in, things quickly went downhill. And then when the robot fights came in, things went totally down the pan. Such a shame, but I should have guessed they couldn’t keep it up...
User_names_suck
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« Reply #694 on: 10-03-2004 19:56 »

What was so wrong with the robot fights? the ep natrually progressed to it, its a little exaggerated in terms of realism but so what.
and the robot commentators were great.


anyway reviews

My Big Fat geek wedding:

As people have said severley lacking in humour.
only 1 or 2 real laughs besides groening's appearnce. other than that the first 2 acts simply raised a smile at best, the plot was completly unitriguing, with no reason to care for any of the characters. 3rd act had a few chuckles at the comic convention and Groening's appearnce.
But then a dreadful ending with the Homer and Marge conflict resolved in 20 seconds.
I can only assume they didn't wan't the ending to be too much of a downer so they threw that in, but really they should have just perhaps shown Skinner trying to get over the breakup perhaps.
I give it a 2/5 which might be a tad harsh but it seems right.

The Wandering Juvie:

Mostly a very average episode, fairly consistent with the gags quite a few sucked but most scenes had some amusing moments. The Prison scenes do quite well to put Bart in a sympathetic situation, Homer's prison guard job actually worked as it was limited to one scene.
Gina's character was quite cliched but not completley bland.
I liked the way we saw Bart trying to understand her it just seemed to work well. The plot seem to evolve tightly into the escaping plot, certaintley the progression throughout the episode and structure was good, (unlike this review.)
 The ending seemed a little forced and cliched but the end joke saved everything I thought, probably the best,end joke of the season.
quite a mix, so a 3/5.

* adopts cockney accent*
Still we won the match 1-0. blinding set piece
frankie knocks it joe cole who makes a great touch
to knock it in.
sorry sbout that.
newhook_1

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« Reply #695 on: 10-03-2004 22:12 »
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I thought, "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot" was one of the best animated episodes ever though. Besides that fact that it's near the top of the heap, writing wise,in comparisen to every episode made in the last 6 years, the animation alone makes it worth watching  at least twice.
Beamer

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« Reply #696 on: 10-03-2004 22:36 »

I made the mistake of watching I D'oh-Bot too many times... I watched it the first time it came on free-to-air, then it came on Foxtel (Aussie equivelant of Cable TV) last month, so I watched it & taped it. After taping it, I watched it four times in 3 days, then my dad wanted to see it so I watched it again with him, then it randomly came on Foxtel again during the 4:30pm timeslot where nothing else is usually on, and since I had nothing else to do, I watched it again. Then I watched the tape again last night since I couldn't sleep... and now my friend's coming over within the next few days. He missed the episode in its first airing, so now HE wants to watch it, too. It's not a bad episode or anything - it'd easily get in my Top 3 for this season, it's just that I'm beginning to get somewhat sick of it.

Speaking of "my Top 3", I've seen every Season 15 episode besides Bart-Mangled Banner, and that airs on free-to-air TV this Wednesday. After watching it, I'll post my ranking for each episode of this season.  smile
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #697 on: 10-04-2004 13:59 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
 What was so wrong with the robot fights? the ep natrually progressed to it, its a little exaggerated in terms of realism but so what.
and the robot commentators were great.

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
 I thought, "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot" was one of the best animated episodes ever though. Besides that fact that it's near the top of the heap, writing wise,in comparisen to every episode made in the last 6 years, the animation alone makes it worth watching  at least twice.

Good for you guys, but if that’s one of the best the Season has to offer, then it doesn’t rank very high with me. The entire robot plot seemed like a re-hash of when Homer tried making Bart a go kart in the soap box derby race; ‘Saturdays of Thunder’, only this time a robot instead. That was my main problem with the plot. As for the jokes, Homer with the blowtorch blowing into his face once was fine, but twice was just tedious. Homer getting his arm cut into wasn’t funny, just more pointless blood (geez I know bloods been in it from the beginning already). It would have been much more effective from the outside, and more funny if we just heard an ‘Ooow!’ (one, not loads of it), instead of being graphically shown the damage. Then there’s Homer using a magnet to get all the metal out of his stomach before he goes to bed, and Marge doing his back. Is this supposed to be funny? Also, notice how many of these so-called jokes are Homer based? (yes there’s plenty of others, but I’m pointing out the Homer ones because they’re the ones miss-firing the most) As for the emotion, it was nice to see them trying, but it came off a bit too forced for me. That’s why I wasn’t so keen on the robot fights...

ghoulishmoose

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« Reply #698 on: 10-04-2004 14:34 »

I was reading through The Sun newspaper at work this dinnertime, and saw something that I thought might interest you guys. So I decided to copy it down. Here you go  smile

Simspons creator Matt Groening has revealed he wants the hit show to end. Matt, 50, is finding it increasingly tough to think up new ideas for the cartoon family. He told the Sun:

"The Simpsons success has been unblieveble. But the show gets harder and harder every year because we keep trying to surprise our audiance..and trying to surprise ourselves"

The voice actors who do voices for Bart and co signed a four year deal in May, doubling their salary to £147,000 an episode. That takes them up to series 19 in 2008. Animator Matt hopes to do one more after that to rival America's longest running show 'Gunsmoke', a western that ran for 20 series. He said:

"I'd love to get 365 episodes, so theres one for every day of the year with no repeats".

The show is about to start its 16th series in the US, while series 12 is due on channel 4 early next month. But in the five final years, lesser characters like Bart's pal Millhouse will have stronger roles. Matt said:

"I expect we'll do more and more stories about the other citizens of Springfield" 

 smile
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #699 on: 10-04-2004 14:50 »

Animator Matt? He's never animated anything in his life (as far as I know).
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« Reply #700 on: 10-04-2004 15:39 »

Uh, Life in Hell?

Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #701 on: 10-04-2004 15:53 »
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That's a comic strip and is in no way animated.
newhook_1

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« Reply #702 on: 10-04-2004 16:32 »
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Does it really matter, Mr Fuzzywuvems? Maybe he did storyboards or layouts for the Ulman shorts, that would qualify as being an animator.

I've been arguing that the show should be cancelled for awhile, but if Matt wants 20 seasons, I say go for it. It is his creation, after all.

@Otis: I said the same thing over at NHC. I still enjoyed it though, it may be a rehash, but it's a damn good one.

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #703 on: 10-04-2004 16:53 »

Thanx for the news GM  smile

Anyway, I've just watched a new Simpsons ep which I like! I know, I'm just as shocked as you are!...   

I think it's called "Diatribe of a Mad Housewife". I loved the opening, Homer ordering all that deep fried food, and lying down on the seat to eat it, this is classic Homer! Marge writing a novel doesn't seem too far fetched, and is a way to vent all her frustrations with Homer. The way the whole town was reading kinda reminded me of that Tom & Jerry ep where Jerry writes that book about Tom, and all the stupid things he's done. But this was done well, and I liked the way the plot in the story followed the plot of the episode, especially near the end with Homer and Flanders. I actually cared about what the situation, and no Simpsons ep in a long time has made me care. It was a good ending, and everyone seemed in character.

The only slight drawbacks were that it was a bit stupid that Homer was driving an ambulance, and that stupid wandering eye joke. Luckily this wasn't enough to detract from the episode too much, and even the pointless guest stars weren't as bad as they could have been. Oh, and great joke with the 3 arms reaching into Ned's house, then one turing out to be Nelson's, who was stealing doormats. The first good new ep I've seen in a looong time...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #704 on: 10-04-2004 18:28 »

Good to see you found something to like.

As for that Sun article....frankly, don't buy it.  The Sun is crap and has falsely reported "juicy" but completely untrue stories about The Simpsons in the past.

I think all it truly means is that the producers and Groening gave the usual answer: "we don't know when it will end".  There's nothing more and nothing less to it.
Beamer

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« Reply #705 on: 10-05-2004 03:55 »

Hey, I know this is slightly off-topic from episode reviews, but does anyone know of any sites where I can get Simpsons episode promo pics from?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #706 on: 10-05-2004 10:34 »

I believe lardlad.com has every known promo image.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #707 on: 10-05-2004 13:45 »

Well I'm very happy to hear that from you otis.

There's another much more extensive detailed  quality article floating around, although it still doesn't really give any specfic quote from anyone suggesting exactly when it will end.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #708 on: 10-05-2004 14:39 »

One other thing I love about the ep, was seeing Dr Marvin Monroe again! I couldn't believe it, and Marge's line about not seeing him in years was most appropriate. Has Dr Marvin Monroe been in any other recent eps? Or was this just a one-off appearance?...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #709 on: 10-05-2004 15:10 »

One-off.  I guess they could have him back again, but so far that's been his only appearance since his "death".  Glad to see you liked the gag though.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #710 on: 10-05-2004 16:59 »
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Yeah, it was clool    cool...

Anyway, I've seen another ep now; "Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore". This is one of the better new eps, and is actually well written and quite funny in places. The problem is it isn't very consistent. Almost as snoon as it does something right, it then goes and does something wrong. I didn't like Homer's role as a beggar very much, but the dialogue he had outside that role was actually rather good. There is enough good stuff here to make it a decent episode overall, and I liked seeing the relationship between Bart and Lisa grow, even i it was slightly forced. It's just a shame about the ending. If it had just ended with the hug note landing on the floor it'd have been a great ending, but then they ruined it with that stupid woman at the museum. The person who brought that in should be shot, and it reminded me of that horrible Rosanne ending in Futurama's "300 Big Boys". Overall, it's not a great episode, but it's not at all bad either...
User_names_suck
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« Reply #711 on: 10-05-2004 19:16 »
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Its funny that you liked the monroe gag,  (according to 138th episode he's supposed to be dead but that ep doesn't necessarily follow continuity)
because some people at the NHC hated it and really reacted terribly to it, not realising that their reaction made the joke even funnier.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #712 on: 10-05-2004 19:23 »

For those upset about the scheduling of the dvd releases....some pretty great news:
 http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=5016&n=1&burl=r%3D0%26s%3D1"

Notice though that it only lists things for the first six episodes...just noting that in case anyone is concerned about only six commentaries being listed.  Obviously the set itself will have more then what is listed there.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #713 on: 10-05-2004 19:29 »

Holy fucking shit dude!! Season Five in December, this is GREAT!! I hope they have all episodes with all commentary, but if they don't, then I guess that's OK. I guess...
Oh, and here's something you may or may not find interesting:

D'OH OR DIE

By DON KAPLAN
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October 5, 2004 -- THE upcoming "Simpsons" movie will either "kill the show or completely reinvigorate it," the long-running animated series creator says.
While still in the earliest stages of production, a "Simpsons" movie is definitely on the way, creator Matt Groening said in an interview with London's Guardian newspaper.
"Everyone on the show this year seems really re-energized, and we're starting to throw out ideas for the movie and I think that will either kill the show or completely re-invigorate it," Groening says.
"We're trying to tell a story that we wouldn't do on television and take advantage of a longer process and a more ambitious process for animation," he says.
Meanwhile, the paper says that "The Simpsons" may finally come to an end in 2009 — after it reaches its 20th season, according to buzz at the offices where it is produced.
"It's not a machine," says Groening of how difficult the show is to produce, even after all these years. "It's a bunch of humans working really hard. It doesn't get any easier because we're still faced with the problem of having a history. We're trying not to repeat ourselves and we're also competing with people's memories of their favorite episode."
If "The Simpsons" does wrap up in 2009, it will top "Gunsmoke" as the longest running entertainment show on television — a record that's also being challenged by the "Law & Order."
With "The Simpsons" entering its 16th season, many fans have worried about the creative direction of the show. Some feel that over the years, Homer and company have lost their zing.
Groening says he was also concerned, but thinks the show is back on track.
"A few years ago I though, well, we've got to run out of steam soon and that we'd be done by now," he says. "We're not, in fact we're going full steam ahead."
Yeardly Smith, who plays the voice of Lisa Simpson, says that if the show is going to end soon, she hopes it happens while "The Simpsons" is still a ratings topper.
"I would hope that the writers would pull the plug while we're still on top of our game so we can go out with a bang instead of a piffle in terms of quality and stuff," she says.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #714 on: 10-05-2004 22:12 »

Season 5? September? *Totally flips out.*

Of course, it won't be out in Australia for a couple of months after that, but it's good to see them coming out at a faster pace.
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« Reply #715 on: 10-05-2004 22:24 »

 
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Its funny that you liked the monroe gag,  (according to 138th episode he's supposed to be dead but that ep doesn't necessarily follow continuity)
because some people at the NHC hated it and really reacted terribly to it, not realising that their reaction made the joke even funnier.

I actually thought that the Monroe gag was the funniest bit in the episode - it had me laughing my ass off for at least 3 minutes. Just because it was so pointless... all it does is deliberately create continuity errors, and for what? Some dumb line about him being very sick? They didn't have any reason whatsoever to bring him back, it wasn't relevant to the episode & they didn't go into it anymore after that... and that's what makes it one of the funniest Simpsons jokes EVER. Period. The fact that so many people hate it only makes me love it more.  tongue

Oh, and by the way - thanks for that site, DotheBartman.
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« Reply #716 on: 10-05-2004 23:00 »
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Originally posted by that site that DTB posted:Extras will include a commentary on Homer's Barbershop Quartet by Matt Groening, Al Jean, Hank Azaria, Jon Lovitz, Jeff Martin and Mark Kirkland
  Refresh my memory: was Lovitz in Barbershop Quartet at all?   Anyhow, December is great news...  The special features sound pretty good too.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #717 on: 10-05-2004 23:13 »

Ranadok, you're right...no Lovitz in "Barbershop Quartet".  I guess he just did the commentary for the fun of it (and frankly, he's funny enough that I don't mind).
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #718 on: 10-05-2004 23:17 »

"Close your eyes... it's Al and Mike."  laff
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« Reply #719 on: 10-06-2004 02:14 »

2009!?
*Spittakes*
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