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Gorky

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« Reply #640 on: 09-19-2004 20:03 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:I'll also submit that I don't really read comics....so I haven't seen what other show representations there are out there and what the qualities are like.  I am guess that the Bongo comics are probably better in general then most of them.

Nor do I. And actually, the only real TV show to comics adaptation that I've ever read was a few X-Files comics. They're okay, but the morbid tales just don't transfer well into the written word. Anyway, the only reason I really bother with the Simpsons comics is out of loyalty to the show (and even then, like I said, I only have a few issues). Futurama Comics, however, are worthwhile, not only because they live up to the quality of the series itself (well, almost), but because it's the one way that I can get my new Futurama fix.
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« Reply #641 on: 09-19-2004 20:10 »

I was gonna guess that there were X-Files comics actually, heh...it was just a natural assumption.  Most sci-fi spins off into that realm if it didn't already start there.

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« Reply #642 on: 09-20-2004 04:55 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
U.K viewers for some strange reason the Sky digital interactive t.v guide appears to have scheduled a new episode- 'The Ziff who came to dinner' for tuesday at 8:30. but be warned it could be a mistake.

Yes that is true. They are going to show it on Tuesday 22nd. From what I read about it this looks like a really interesting episode.

bender+fry

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« Reply #643 on: 09-20-2004 07:33 »
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Originally posted by Gorky:
 Nor do I. And actually, the only real TV show to comics adaptation that I've ever read was a few X-Files comics. They're okay, but the morbid tales just don't transfer well into the written word.

I saw a free preview to a 24 comic coming out, where each two pages are an hour. Nice idea, but it just didn't work.    hmpf
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #644 on: 09-22-2004 06:27 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2004 06:27 »

Simple Simpson

Okay, seriously, what the hell? A very competant episode! No bad gags ('cept the flying Dalai Llama), though the enitre third act was pretty forgetable. In fact, this had a number of moments that had me chuckling.
"Pie-man is not your father! I just... murdered your father."
A truly pleasent surprise. Oh, and is it just me, or was this episode making fun of us? (I do, of course, refer to Homer's comment after he assaulted Krusty... you know the one I mean...   wink )

B-
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« Reply #645 on: 09-22-2004 07:25 »

Nice to here, pity we here in Blightly won't be able to see it until March. Unless we cheat..
User_names_suck
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« Reply #646 on: 09-22-2004 13:37 »

Actually  Nurdy

3rd October - 18:30; FABF12
"My Big Fat Geek Wedding"

3rd October - 19:30; FABF11
"The Wandering Juvie"

10th October - 18:30; FABF15
"Simple Simpson"


17th October - 18:30; FABF13
"The Way We Weren't"

24th October - 18:30; FABF09
"Smart and Smarter"

31st October - 18:30; FABF14
"Catch 'Em If You Can"


I told you this already, and you missed "Ziff who came to dinner" yesterday.


and there's been more uodates since.

FABF17, "Bart-Mangled Banner" airs Sunday 7th November at 6.30pm.
FABF10, "Co-Dependant's Day" airs Sunday 14th November at 6.30pm.
FABF18, "Fraudcast News" airs Sunday 21st November at 6.30pm.


FABF23, "Treehouse Of Horror XV" airs Sunday 28th November at 6.30pm.


Nurdbot

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« Reply #647 on: 09-22-2004 14:01 »

Awesome. The Treehouse of horror a month late.
bender+fry

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« Reply #648 on: 09-22-2004 22:42 »

I was looking through the episode forecasts for the 16th season on Snpp.com andd I saw this:

?ABF?? - Title Unknown
Bart transforms his treehouse into a sort of Playboy mansion. James Caan guests.

What the hell?
M0le

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« Reply #649 on: 09-23-2004 00:14 »

Simple Simpson
I have to agree with Slacky here, this was actually a surprisingly good episode. The little Spiderman Parody was funny, and Marge telling Homer that it was obvious it was him underneath the costume at the end. And it had the crazy Texan guy in it too, and we all know how cool he is.
B
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« Reply #650 on: 09-23-2004 02:21 »

 
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Originally posted by bender&fry:
I was looking through the episode forecasts for the 16th season on Snpp.com andd I saw this:

?ABF?? - Title Unknown
Bart transforms his treehouse into a sort of Playboy mansion. James Caan guests.

What the hell?
My pathetic fan service radar is dinging, has the show gone this low?

DotheBartman

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« Reply #651 on: 09-23-2004 10:30 »

He once made a casino out of it too....

Relax, we know nothing of the context, plot, whatever yet.  Its just a random detail that could go in any episode.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #652 on: 09-23-2004 10:46 »

Hey, if it means more Heff-esque goodness, then I won't complain.

'Smart bunnies, Heff."
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« Reply #653 on: 09-23-2004 12:20 »

I hope so too, but I have a bad feeling about this.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #654 on: 09-23-2004 12:27 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Hey, if it means more Heff-esque goodness, then I won't complain.

'Smart bunnies, Heff."

"I can call you Heff, can't I?"

"No."

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #655 on: 09-23-2004 12:55 »

Haha, Bart's treehouse as a Playboy Mansion! This raises all sorts of questions!...
User_names_suck
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« Reply #656 on: 09-23-2004 14:33 »

Are we finally going to see Bart lose his virginity. if it wasn't for marge intervining it may have happend in "The Catridge Family"
But yeah it could just be a quick joke like it could be something he does to try and cope with his mid life crisis of sorts.
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« Reply #657 on: 09-23-2004 14:46 »

Er, age 10? child?

DotheBartman

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« Reply #658 on: 09-23-2004 14:54 »

Bart's treehouse casino was just a kid's version of an actaul casino.  No reason it won't be the same here.  Its like there will be nude women in it or anything.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #659 on: 09-23-2004 17:02 »
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If it's a childs version, maybe Lisa will be one of the Playmates... I don't even wanna think about that...
Shadowstar

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« Reply #660 on: 09-23-2004 18:10 »

Oh great, Otis! You made me think about it! YOU MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT!!!
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« Reply #661 on: 09-23-2004 18:29 »

[TeesideInc]Waaahooo![/TeeSideInc]

*Takes out his eyes*
DotheBartman

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« Reply #662 on: 09-24-2004 00:15 »

"Season 16: The special all-nude season of The Simpsons!  Coming this fall to Fox!"
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #663 on: 09-24-2004 03:36 »

"And now for what we all came here to see... Hardcore nudity!"

Shake shake shake etc.

In any case, I wouldn't expect anything too racy. It is, after all, still The Simpsons.
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« Reply #664 on: 09-24-2004 06:40 »

If you take away the sexual stuff, then the Playboy Mansion is really just one giant party house. My guess is that THIS is more-or-less what Bart turns his treehouse into in this episode. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a sub-plot or something, it doesn't seem like a strong enough plot to hold an episode... Still, I'm going to at least wait until more information is revealed before criticizing this.
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« Reply #665 on: 09-24-2004 09:01 »

It sounds like a lame subplot to me.

Slacky: FOX. FOX. FOX. Money. Don't care. Reality Television.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #666 on: 09-24-2004 10:24 »

Fox doesn't care.  But they wouldn't put in something so racy into a show that's seen as family entertainment.  And they have absolutely zero say in the production of the show so its a moot point.  The producers dictate everything.

Not to mention both have to answer to the FCC.
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« Reply #667 on: 09-24-2004 12:11 »

I'm still slightly skeptic, but okay whatever.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #668 on: 09-24-2004 14:15 »

I don't see what's to be skeptical of.  The producers....yeah, sure, maybe there's a minute chance they'll go crazy from amnesia or chemicals in the water or whatever and animate a very special (and unairable, due to FCC restrictions) racy and nude Simpsons.  But Fox interfering?  That's even more ridiculous, because they simply have no say in it.  That's why they cancelled Futurama, and that's why they've always wanted to cancel The Simpsons (though they can't because its too successful).  Both shows operate pretty much completely without Fox interference, and that's why they can't stand either one.

Also, posting this here as well since this was the primary thread for this discussion...the Jean/Shearer dispute has apparently been patched up (as confirmed by Roger Myers III at NHC). As suspected, misquoted interviews played a part in the confusion.

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #669 on: 09-24-2004 16:59 »

I didn't know Fox's hate of Futurama extended to The Simpsons. I mean, of course The Simpsons take the rip out of Fox, but I kinda thought Fox was alright about it...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #670 on: 09-25-2004 18:45 »

Its not so much the rips on them that they hate.  Its the lack of power over the show.

Remember, when they established the show, James L. Brooks pretty much said that they would not accept notes.  That is still true, and now more then ever it infuriates the executives.  As Groening has said, they don't "get" either show, and worse for them they're used to having complete control over their shows with The Simpsons producers do not give them.  Usually executives can step in and make mandatory notes about what producers have to do with the show, but The Simpsons producers won't even allow any notes at all.  Tim Long even once joked that they've now hired a security guard to keep Fox executives off the Simpsons lot.  Well, I think he was joking.

BUT, The Simpsons makes too much money.  Literally, too much for them to cancel it.  Even aside from the fact that they like to make money, do you realize how it would look to their shareholders if they cancelled their single most lucrative show, both currently and through almost the entire run of their network?  Its too important to their identity as a network and just makes too much for them to justify cancelling.  They were able to (more or less) justify the treatment and eventual cancellation of Futurama.  But they can't do that with The Simpsons.  Its own success has backed the executives into a corner.  And they hate it for that.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #671 on: 09-29-2004 07:42 »
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The Way We Weren't

Best episode of the season. Also has the best line of the season.
"Here's a way to remember which one's the olive fork!"
And God help me, I chuckled at the pirate talk jokes. Arrrr.
Several good lines, thought the psychadelic sequence could have used more jokes that weren't references to American commercials. Also, it loses a point for using that stupid collar thing. You know the one I mean.
No sickeningly out of character moments, no God awful jokes, no moments that made me want to cry. This ep seems about equivelent to your average season 9 episode. Good stuff.

Oh yes, and I've always loved the little Homer voice. Good to see that it made a return here.

B

However, after reading the reviews here, I'm very wary of next week's episode...
M0le

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« Reply #672 on: 09-30-2004 00:46 »

Missed The Way We Weren't. Damn you, Multi Theft Auto!
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« Reply #673 on: 10-01-2004 14:37 »
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Well I've actually seen a few episodes from Seasons 14 and 15 now. A friend made a tape for me of random new eps. I'm not impressed though. As I don't know what the titles are, I went over to The Simpsons Archive to find out, and I've watched...

"Helter Shelter", this totally sucked. It was crammed with terrible jokes, and a very contrived plot. It could have been interesting with the family living with ways of a past era, but instead it was boring and tedious. The bit with blood gushing out of Homer after shaving made me cringe.

"How I Spent My Strummer Vacation", this was ok. It was quite entertaining, and in places pretty funny. The taped Taxi cab ride was pretty funny, and the guest stars were relevant to the plot. It got a bit stupid nearer the end, and the jokes began to miss-fire often in the second half, but not a terrible episode.

"Treehouse of Horror XIV" was disappointing. I normally love the THoH eps. The one with the Grim Reaper had good bits, but was far from perfect. The middle section with Frink and his dad was plain boring, who cares about his dad anyway? And the final segment had some awesome bits with what Bart and Millhouse did with the time skips, but was ruined by stupidity (such as the toy soldiers up Homer's nose).

"Magical History Tour" was far from magical. This was the worst of the bunch, infact one of the worst I've ever seen. I cringed at so many of the jokes I lost count, and I remember reading about the Lisa trying to grow a penis joke, and it was just as bad as I imagined. Every story sucked, it really wasn't at all funny, and a lot of the characters roles didn't seem to fit, and seemed forced. This makes "Bible Sties" look like a masterwork of art...

I've got quite a few more hours on the tape to watch, I'll probably see them next week sometime. So far Iím not seeing any improvement over the Scully Seasons, but I wonít judge overall seasons yet because this could just be a bad batch, at least I hope so...
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« Reply #674 on: 10-01-2004 15:16 »

Well shit man, he gave a bunch of the worst ones.  Try to catch some of the more revered eps like "Moe Baby Blues" and "My Mother the Carjacker".  I'm surpised you even thought "Strummer Vacation" was decent actually; I thought it was the worst of those (though Helter Shelter and Margical History Tour are quite bad).
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« Reply #675 on: 10-01-2004 15:26 »

Bad? Everytime I think about them blood squirts out of my eyes.

Eeeew! Eeeew! All over the place!
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« Reply #676 on: 10-01-2004 16:49 »

There's still plenty more left on the tape, I'm not sure what they are, but I'll find out when I see them I guess. And 'Strummer Vaction' wasn't great or anything, but for all it's shortcomings I seemed to derive more entertainment value out of that at least...
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« Reply #677 on: 10-01-2004 16:53 »

I thought THOH was the best of those, and even that's barely passable.
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« Reply #678 on: 10-01-2004 17:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
"Magical History Tour" was far from magical. This was the worst of the bunch, infact one of the worst I've ever seen.
Yeah, "Margical History Tour" was pretty awful.

Not to mention the huge continuity error. Homer watching sock puppets? He's terrified of them!  mad
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« Reply #679 on: 10-01-2004 18:03 »

Well, that was actually Henry VIII, not technically Homer. Wait, in what episode was Homer afraid of sock puppets?
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