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Zogonif

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« Reply #120 on: 09-27-2004 02:15 »

I bet you know as much about Futurama as i know about DBZ
Squeaky

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« Reply #121 on: 09-27-2004 02:26 »
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Why bet when we can settle this with a fight to the death. How does tuesday sound?   wink

I think the most recent "Planet of the Apes" movie kinda didn't live up to expectations. I hate how just left us hanging like they are going to make a sequel. They aren't going to now probably seeing how bad this one was.
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« Reply #122 on: 09-27-2004 03:16 »
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And George Lucas is talking about delaying the 4th Indiana Jones sequel until they get the script "just right"...i'm just curious how much longer they can wait...I mean, Harrison Ford's already dating Death. <_< >_> I'm so going to hell for that one, aren't I?    laff
Zogonif

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« Reply #123 on: 09-27-2004 05:22 »

If they wait too long they'll have to use the same CGI stuff they did in the Final fantasy movie
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« Reply #124 on: 09-27-2004 10:45 »

Well done Spacedal and Zogonif for completely wasting half of page 3 with complete tripe.
*applauds*

 roll eyes

Speaking of bad sequals, I saw (just) the end of the newer Planet of the Apes, please tell me they're not making another one?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #125 on: 09-27-2004 10:51 »

My understanding is that they were going to, but I guess they must've dropped the idea because I haven't heard anything since.

Personally never saw it.  I love the original series....just the way it is.  I don't need to see any shitty remakes.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #126 on: 09-27-2004 10:53 »

Oh, and it WAS shitty. Oh my yes. <shudders>.
The Comedy Bee

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« Reply #127 on: 09-27-2004 11:38 »

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
sadly, a Jurassic Park 4 is in pre-production...maybe this time they'll GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ISLAND!!!!! God, that so annoyed me in jp3 that not only did the movie absolutely suck balls, but that they didn't go back to the original island.


John Sayles has written the most ridiculous script for JP3 which features (among other things) a mad scientist who creates a squad of genetically eniginered super dinosaurs to fight crime! There's no way it'll ever get made.
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« Reply #128 on: 09-27-2004 13:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Jade_Gryphon:
And George Lucas is talking about delaying the 4th Indiana Jones sequel until they get the script "just right"...i'm just curious how much longer they can wait...

Hey, perfecting it now is better than re-releasing it 500 times.  It's still probably going to suck, since Lucas has gone absolutely bat-shit insane over the last decade, but nonetheless...

And what's the point of a 4th Indy movie?  I may have misinterpreted this, but isn't Indy...you know...IMMORTAL now?  For all practical purposes at least?  Someone who actually reads movie boards can update me on this if they feel like.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #129 on: 09-27-2004 15:01 »

I guess I'm actually not quite sure about that.  I thought maybe he couldn't be immortal because he couldn't take the grail out of that building ("that is the price of immortality" ) but I'm not sure.

Either way though, awful idea.  I love the Raiders trilogy to death (at least the first and third movies) but it ended on a high note and I just don't see any reason to go back to it.  Plus, I dare anyone to name even one movie series that sustained itself past a third movie.  C'mon, I dare you.
Squeaky

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« Reply #130 on: 09-27-2004 21:59 »

I think any new George Lucas movie is going to be sub par now since I think he has lost it. I say this seeing how the Star Wars has gone down since the release of even the "Special Edition" to the entirely new trilogy. For some reason it seems that Lucas has gotten soft in terms of his story telling directing most of his movies towards a younger audience even though most of the fans of his stuff are of the older generations. Thats just my take on it. Don't get me wrong I'm going to still see the newest Star Wars movie and if they have it the newest Indiana Jones movie. I just think they are not going to on par to what Lucas did in the past (His movies from the 70's and 80's).
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« Reply #131 on: 09-27-2004 23:02 »

 
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Plus, I dare anyone to name even one movie series that sustained itself past a third movie. C'mon, I dare you.

Does Star Trek Count?  IV and V were both good, and beat teh crap out of III, in my opinion.  Also, three out of the four Next Gen films were good, including the last one.

Other than that...hmm...let's wait and see how/if a Hobbit movie turns out.  Also, I'd bet good money that the fourth Potter flick is at least up to par with the first three.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #132 on: 09-27-2004 23:09 »

To be fair I haven't seen the Star Trek movies, so I can't comment.

I'm talking more about consistancy though.  I actually like the fourth Planet of the Apes for instance....but the fifth was lousy.  So it didn't quite stay consistant either way.  And I typically hear that Star Trek has had a fair amount of bad flicks over all ten (is that the number) of them so they didn't sustain themselves either.
Ranadok

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« Reply #133 on: 09-28-2004 00:27 »

I think the general rule with the Trek movies is an alternating good/bad pattern throughout the entire run of the movies. I don't think the movie quality decreases past the first three (though, the stories for 2, 3, and 4 are fairly closely connected, so perhaps they should count as one... but that's just silly). Overall, in my opinion, there are more good Star Trek movies outside the first three than inside, but that's not saying much, considering the total number of movies.

Also, I have not yet seen the original Planet of the Apes movies. I want to, but the only guy I know who has them is kind of creepy...
David A

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« Reply #134 on: 09-28-2004 01:45 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Plus, I dare anyone to name even one movie series that sustained itself past a third movie.  C'mon, I dare you.

There's the Star Trek movies, like Nerd-o-rama mentioned, and how about the James Bond movies?  Those certainly didn't decline in quality after the third one.

I do agree that we don't need anymore Indiana Jones movies.  It's impossible to top The Last Crusade, so why even try?  Besides, Indy already found both the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail.  What's he going to go after in the fourth one?  Well, there's still the Spear of Destiny, I guess.
Squeaky

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« Reply #135 on: 09-28-2004 01:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Ranadok:
Also, I have not yet seen the original Planet of the Apes movies. I want to, but the only guy I know who has them is kind of creepy...

Thats what's holding you back from watching a true classic? For shame.

Seriously, you should either rent them or check if any of the movie channels are showing it soon. It's definitly a pretty cool movie series (excluding the remake from a couple years ago).
DotheBartman

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« Reply #136 on: 09-28-2004 02:33 »

Yes, I can much reccomend them.  Plus, when you're a Futurama fan the second one becomes even better (watch for a fairly obvious reference in "I second that Emotion", and a pretty subtle one in "Fear of a Bot Planet" ).
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #137 on: 09-28-2004 02:59 »

 
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Well, there's still the Spear of Destiny, I guess.


And the Shroud of Turin! Oh wait...

Eh, he could go after some holy artifacts from some other religion. Like... er... a sacred Voodou crocodile skin thingy. Or something.
Zogonif

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« Reply #138 on: 09-28-2004 03:20 »
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Well done Spacedal and Zogonif for completely wasting half of page 3 with complete tripe.
*applauds*

   roll eyes

Speaking of bad sequals, I saw (just) the end of the newer Planet of the Apes, please tell me they're not making another one?

Blame Spacedal, Fazeshift he's the one that got me started
David A

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« Reply #139 on: 09-28-2004 04:25 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Eh, he could go after some holy artifacts from some other religion. Like... er... a sacred Voodou crocodile skin thingy. Or something.

Like the Shankara stones in The Temple of Doom?  I think that was the main reason that The Temple of Doom was the weakest of the three movies.  (Well, that, and the lack of Nazis.)

I do think that the Spear of Destiny would be the obvious way to go, especially if the Nazis are going to be the antagonists again.

I don't think that there should be any more movies after The Last Crusade, though.  Having Indy reunited with his father, and having them find the Grail together was a perfect ending to the series.  Besides, the Holy Grail is like, y'know, the Holy Grail of lost artifacts.  How do you top that?  You can't.  An Indiana Jones movie about the Spear of Destiny would have been good if it were made before The Last Crusade, but it's too late now.
evan

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« Reply #140 on: 09-28-2004 10:40 »

Indiana Jones finds Jesus.

I agree with David A here, the IJ series wrapped up so well with The Last Crusade, I can't imagine another sequel being any good.  Everything that needed to be said about the current Indy has been said.  After all, the thir movie was The Last Crusade.

If they do make a IJ 4,iIt would be interesting if they did it as "young Indiana Jones" movie, since that would be the only way to salvage the franchise.  With a young Indy, there are a lot more story possibilities, plus the writers don't have to top the Holy Grail in terms of "thing Indy must find."   But prequels are dangerous things, especially in Lucas's hands.
David A

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« Reply #141 on: 09-28-2004 11:20 »

There was already a young Indiana Jones TV series.  And four made-for-TV movies.  And eight direct-to-video movies.  It's been done to death already.
Ben

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« Reply #142 on: 09-28-2004 12:02 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Besides, the Holy Grail is like, y'know, the Holy Grail of lost artifacts.  How do you top that?  You can't.

You could a have a cameo by Robert Langdon who begins to inform Indy that the grail is symbolic of the sacred feminine and not a real cup, yadda, yadda... right before Indy strangles him mid-sentence with his whip.

Probably couldn't sustain an entire movie, however...

SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #143 on: 09-28-2004 18:58 »

I've got it! He could look for Mohommad's cave! Of course, it might just turn into a repeat of Star Trek V, and then I'd have to shoot myself.
evan

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« Reply #144 on: 09-28-2004 19:33 »

 
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There was already a young Indiana Jones TV series.  And four made-for-TV movies.  And eight direct-to-video movies.  It's been done to death already.

I knew of the young IJ tv series, but I think that only lasted a few episodes.  I hadn't heard of the rest, so I suppose they didn't make a whole lot of money.  It'd be a bad idea to do a young IJ movie then.
Squeaky

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« Reply #145 on: 09-29-2004 02:59 »

I just saw this today but Stargate had a sequel. Didn't seem as good as the first one (from what I watched).
Zogonif

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« Reply #146 on: 09-29-2004 03:22 »
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are you talking the first episode of Stargate sg-1 ?

if you are then its not a movie
DotheBartman

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« Reply #147 on: 09-29-2004 03:26 »

Stargate was a movie first.  Never seen the movie or series though.
Zogonif

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« Reply #148 on: 09-29-2004 03:32 »

 
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Stargate was a movie first.  Never seen the movie or series though.


I did'nt say Stargate was'nt a movie Donthebartman i was talking about the first episode of Stargate the series
Squeaky

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« Reply #149 on: 09-30-2004 02:05 »

No, I was talking about the movie which did have a sequel. It wasn't really a direct one though.
DogDoo8

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« Reply #150 on: 09-30-2004 02:41 »

 
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No, I was talking about the movie which did have a sequel. It wasn't really a direct one though.


Sorry to burst your bubble but I just checked in the IMDB, and there was no such sequal. Every thing that I looked at and that includes plots as well says that there's no such Movie.

evan

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« Reply #151 on: 09-30-2004 02:47 »

There's a new Stargate tv show.  Is that what you're thinking of when you say "sequal"?  As in, a "sequal" to the original series?
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #152 on: 09-30-2004 02:50 »

There ARE rumours of another Stargate movie being made, that carries on from/concludes the events of the series, but er... that's not it.
Squeaky

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« Reply #153 on: 09-30-2004 03:14 »
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I just checked in the IMDB, and there was no such sequal. Every thing that I looked at and that includes plots as well says that there's no such Movie.


Since I always try to admit when I'm wrong, I checked this also you are right. My satallite dish screwed up the info and called the Stargate SG-1 (tv series) Stargate 2 for some reason thats why I said it wasn't a direct sequal. No, you didn't burst my bubble you just made me look like a fool.

    wink
Zogonif

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« Reply #154 on: 09-30-2004 05:52 »

Another one for this thread is the Conan movies

The first one was good (Conan the Babarian) and the second was allright (Conan the destroyer) but not as good as the first
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« Reply #155 on: 09-30-2004 06:58 »
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About Indiana Jones #4...

I have heard that Indiana Jones will be about Indiana's son(in his 20's) is in the family business and he needs Indiana's help.

Doesn't sound very good to me.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #156 on: 09-30-2004 10:33 »
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That's just a rumor at this point, and I doubt that's the real storyline.  They don't even have a concrete script yet (since the last was rejected).  Not that I condone the idea of doing a fourth movie at all, but let's not be putting any stock in these rumors just yet.

Mel Brooks recently stated that he's working on the script for another "Spaceballs" though.
David A

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« Reply #157 on: 09-30-2004 11:47 »

 
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Another one for this thread is the Conan movies

The first one was good (Conan the Babarian) and the second was allright (Conan the destroyer) but not as good as the first

I disagree.  The second one was great.  Grace Jones and Wilt Chamberlain were in it.

 
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Mel Brooks recently stated that he's working on the script for another "Spaceballs" though.

Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money?

Too bad John Candy won't be around to reprise his role as Barf.
Zogonif

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« Reply #158 on: 09-30-2004 21:40 »

the main reason i did'nt like second Conan movie was it did'nt have the same feel to it like the first one
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« Reply #159 on: 09-30-2004 21:53 »
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
That's just a rumor at this point, and I doubt that's the real storyline.  They don't even have a concrete script yet (since the last was rejected).  Not that I condone the idea of doing a fourth movie at all, but let's not be putting any stock in these rumors just yet.

Who cares if it's true at all? If episode 1 and 2 are any indication, not to mention the new realease of Star Wars on DVD, George Lucas is now nothing but an ordinary dipshit. Steven Spielberg has become just as bad too, so there really is no hope for the new Indian Jones.

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