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PEE Poll: The Passion of the Christ
Inspired! Wonderful!   -7 (46.7%)
Blasphemous! Evil!   -0 (0%)
Eh. It was alright.   -3 (20%)
shocking, eye-opening   -0 (0%)
I squinched my eyes shut the whole time.   -0 (0%)
It made me hungry.   -5 (33.3%)
Total Voters: 14

TheMadCapper

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« on: 02-29-2004 19:59 »

If you saw it, pick an option up above. If you didn't, null-vote or wait till you have seen it.

So you saw it, what'd you think?

I saw what I expected to see. I was already familiar with the ugliness of the crucifixion process and the suffering of Jesus, so I went in prepared. I think Mel Gibson did a good job of directing it, I couldn't have done better. Not a life-changing experience for me though.

interesting side-note.... the fella who played Jesus was struck by lightning on the set. Seriously. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/24/gibson.passion/
PCC Fred

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« Reply #1 on: 02-29-2004 20:07 »

Maybe God's punishing them for commercialising His son's life.

Or maybe anyone who holds an umbrella up whilst standing on the top of a hill during stormy weather is a twat.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #2 on: 02-29-2004 20:13 »

two people were struck by lightning working on the movie. I don't think it was the Jesus actor who was holding the umbrella.
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« Reply #3 on: 02-29-2004 20:18 »

The guy who played Jesus was accidentally whipped twice, too. The movie was alright, there was some good artistic license, some of it was unnecessary. Also the ending should've been something like Jesus resurrecting and meeting his disciples again.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #4 on: 02-29-2004 20:40 »

 
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Originally posted by TheMadCapper:
two people were struck by lightning working on the movie. I don't think it was the Jesus actor who was holding the umbrella.

The assistant director was struck twice, both times he was holding an umbrella whilst standing at the top of a hill.  When the Jesus actor was hit he was standing next to the assistant director plus umbrella.
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« Reply #5 on: 02-29-2004 21:03 »

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm hoping to be able to. All I've heard since the film came out (and prior) was that it is antisemmetic. Is it?
Speli

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« Reply #6 on: 02-29-2004 21:07 »

Not at all.
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« Reply #7 on: 02-29-2004 21:12 »

Thanks. That wouldn't have discouraged me from seeing it, though.
On another note, I think that Mel Gibson's devotion to his labor of love is just so amazing. I mean, the guy poured an estimated $30-40 million on this thing.
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« Reply #8 on: 02-29-2004 23:42 »

This film felt alot more like an emotional church sermon to me than an actual film.  It paints christs suffering in every light of truth it can.  I never thought anyone could top "Braveheart" for blood and gore, but Gibson outdoes his own work, here.  Unflinching, and heart-wrenching I am happy to say I saw the Passion.
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« Reply #9 on: 03-01-2004 00:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Speli:
The movie was alright, there was some good artistic license, some of it was unnecessary.

What did you like/not like as far as "artistic license" goes?
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« Reply #10 on: 03-01-2004 04:22 »

It made me hungry.   smile
For cake.
Speli

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« Reply #11 on: 03-01-2004 06:43 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
 What did you like/not like as far as "artistic license" goes?

Satan always in the backround didn't really need to be there, but it gave a nice touch.
The crow the pecked the guy's eye out same, although to a lesser extent. Like to the point of not having to be there.
The single tear drop from God was pretty cool, though.
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« Reply #12 on: 03-01-2004 07:39 »

 
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Satan always in the backround didn't really need to be there, but it gave a nice touch.
The crow the pecked the guy's eye out same, although to a lesser extent. Like to the point of not having to be there.
The single tear drop from God was pretty cool, though.

I'm sorry, when I read this I could only think of a Terry Gilliam animated version of 'Life of Brian'  wink

And I haven't seen it yet. Not sure if I will.
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« Reply #13 on: 03-25-2004 07:55 »

today i read that they re-released Monty Python's Life Of Brian in America, to distract the people from The Passion Of The Christ
what do you mean, we shove the problems on someone else's ass
Mr.MastodonFarm

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« Reply #14 on: 03-25-2004 10:15 »
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I thought this was okay, but to be honest, I found it a little tedious at times. It just didn't move me, but I guess it's just not my faith.

I did have a favourite scene, though... that flashback between Jesus and Mary when he's making the table. That was interesting... if there were a movie about Jesus' work as a carpenter, I'd go out and see it more readily than this. I saw this a few weeks ago because I see a lot of movies, and this would seem to be one I shouldn't miss... but I was never really excited to see it. I'm certainly not going for any repeat viewings.

...as for anti-semitism, I didn't see it... unless by that you mean blaming Jews for Jesus' death. Otherwise, I don't think they as a people were portrayed badly.   tongue
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« Reply #15 on: 03-25-2004 12:33 »

Well, there was that part when they were kicking Jesus when he was down, and Simon of Cyrene freaked out at them.
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« Reply #16 on: 03-25-2004 12:47 »

Six thumbs up.
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« Reply #17 on: 03-25-2004 14:49 »

Not seen it with no plans to see it. I don't see what the fuss is about, all he's done is take a pre-existing book and convert it to film. What's wrong with that?
Mr.MastodonFarm

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« Reply #18 on: 03-25-2004 17:39 »

...the fuss is that lots of people like Jesus. It's that simple... I mean, anything related to Christianity will sell somewhere in America, it's our thing... well, not mine, but you know what I mean. Jebus is a big draw.

...also, I'm glad I waited a couple weeks to see it, so the church crowds wouldn't be there. I didn't want to be in the theater with anyone crying... I was eating Swedish Fish during this, it may have seemed inappropriate... I think the Ritz theater I regularly go to had the same idea(avoiding the opening rush to see it) by waiting a week to release it.
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« Reply #19 on: 03-26-2004 11:05 »

Eh, no point to going. I already know the ending.
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« Reply #20 on: 03-26-2004 14:07 »

im going to see it sunday, v. excited. is it good? best film of years my prediction.
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« Reply #21 on: 03-26-2004 14:11 »
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Eh, I'm kinda interested to see it, but I'm gonna wait for it to come out on DVD.  Judging from what I've heard of it, my biggest fear is ten years down the road, the film's only going to be remembered by splatter-film enthusiasts.

EDIT: "interested" is a better word then "excited."
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« Reply #22 on: 03-26-2004 19:12 »

I'm seeing it tommorow, and I have to agree with boingo 2000, "interested" rather than excited pretty much sum up my feeling. I let you you what I think of it.
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« Reply #23 on: 03-26-2004 23:39 »

"Teh Passion of Teh Christ compels you!!
Teh Passion of Teh Christ compels you!!"  laff

Sorry, had to be done.

I don't see how people can be complainingg about this film, it's not as if the source material can be misinterpreted... [/sarcasm]
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« Reply #24 on: 03-27-2004 16:33 »

i saw it the weekend it came out and i really didnt like it. It wasnt blasphemous, or anti-semetic so i dont know why so many people are upset. I just thought it sucked because it was only aboot shock-value. Mel Gibson made this movie to shock people into liking or hating it. And I'M Hating it.


Amen.
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« Reply #25 on: 03-28-2004 06:36 »
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Haven't seen it, don't plan to. Don't like Christian movies. That's kinda why I don't like Signs too much. They tricked me into thinking it was a cool sci-fi flick, not religious babble.

P.S. Not looking to turn this into some battle of religions. Please just accept I don't like the religion (or most of them). Don't try to cram it down my throat and you won't find dead Jehovah's Witnesses on your doorstep wink

For the humor challenged, yes I was kidding.
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« Reply #26 on: 03-28-2004 06:57 »

You're not the only one Allen. the reason you mentioned is the main reason i don't want to see it either.

However, i did like signs. It had the religious undertones, yeah, but i could ignore it cause it had creepy aliens. The only religious themed movies i like are 'What dreams may come' and 'dogma'
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« Reply #27 on: 03-28-2004 21:43 »

I went to see it with my youth group...and wow. It was amazing. Sure, I've gone to church my whole life and I know the story, but this was a whole new eye-opening side to the story. And I cried. A lot. Ok, during the whole thing. But definitely worth seeing.
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« Reply #28 on: 03-29-2004 08:08 »
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 People are always over excited about films with Biblic references. I mean some people back in the Seventies blew up a cinema that was playing 'Jesus Christ Superstar'.
 I think that 'the Passion' could benfit from a big dance number at the end. That should stop the controvocy.
*Sits back looking smug.*
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« Reply #29 on: 03-29-2004 11:10 »

Powerful, stunning, shocking. It holds your attention and is often so intense it feels like you are being picked up shaken then slapped in the face with a wet fish!

It's not anti-semitic or blasphemous it's just a powerful film. Not neccesarily one I'd run out and buy to watch agian and again, but It's certainly worth checking out. Make up your own mind, judge it as a piece of cinema and ignore all the controvesy.

Maybe Jesus does fall over a few times too many whilst carying the cross (although who can blame him) and the flashbacks aren't as interesting as they could be. But everything else is pretty much perfect, they Devil is creepy as hell and the finale is brilliantly excecuted.

Overall 8.5/10 or A-
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« Reply #30 on: 03-30-2004 15:19 »

i think it was an absolutely brilliant film, wasnt anti-semitic (all of them are jewish? other than the romans) absolutely brilliant. wasnt just a shock value at all it was just the facts. what actually happened (if you believe it) it wasnt pussy footing around the fact he was tortured etc. it just showed it. Many religions like to take bits out of the bible that they pick and choose and then base their religion around that. This film just showed what happened no pretending it wasnt painful or terrible etc. he just showed it. Oscars all round- especially Jesus he was excellent. The fact it wasnt in English didnt bother me at all and i really thought it would you just get used to it and the flashbacks were done really well they had a yellow glow to them- looked just like a Rembrant picture amazing.
Never has a film made me flinch before or feel that sad. Never seen such an inspirational thing since Futurama. Great special effects, great casting great film 10/10 go and see it. I did guess the ending though, knew he was gonna die.
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« Reply #31 on: 03-30-2004 22:44 »

...actually, I thought the flashbacks were the good part. I dunno, the longer it's been since I've seen it, the less I like it.

I especially don't like the Oscar talk.... there's still a long while yet, and many films I'm looking forward to... 

...and if this is on a 10 scale, I say 6 or 7. It was on par with or better than Osama... its closest competitor for "feel good movie of the year".
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« Reply #32 on: 03-30-2004 23:43 »
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I especially don't like the Oscar talk.... there's still a long while yet, and many films I'm looking forward to... 


I personally think that this film has no chance at all to get any major Oscar nominations. It may get a couple of technical nods (cinematography, makeup) but there's no way Gibson will be nominated for this movie. It's been reported that powerful Jewish executives in Hollywood hate this movie. But, it does have its supporters so I guess you never can be too sure. Martin Scorsese got nominated for The Last Temptation of Christ, so anything can happen.
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« Reply #33 on: 03-31-2004 03:41 »
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Those lousey Jews, ruling the world by proxy with their Negro strongarms...

I kid, I kid. Oy.
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« Reply #34 on: 04-23-2004 17:09 »

OMG, TMc even included a "hungry" option for me! All the time I had to think of hamburgers. I prefer mine cooked though, not raw like in the movie.
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« Reply #35 on: 04-24-2004 00:20 »
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I have no plans to go and see a movie that's whole selling point is the torture and execution of some bloke from thousands of years ago.  There have been plenty of  martyrs since him.  Where are their epic movies?  Where is their recognition?  Oh yes this one is about the "son of God" because um...he said so!
That's all I need!
For the people who voted "inspired, wonderful"  did you vote this because of the screenplay and filmmaking or simply  because it is a movie that puts Christ in a good light and that you are christian.  How exactly is it inspired?
From what I have heard from friends both christian and not, the movie was crap.  Not one orignal idea, unless you count possibly making it more gory than most mainstream films.  I've heard apart from that it is one big cliche. Religiously and artistically.
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« Reply #36 on: 04-24-2004 00:41 »

 
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I have no plans to go and see a movie that's whole selling point is the torture and execution of some bloke from thousands of years ago.  There have been plenty of  martyrs since him.  Where are their epic movies?  Where is their recognition?  Oh yes this one is about the "son of God" because um...he said so!
That's all I need!
For the people who voted "inspired, wonderful"  did you vote this because of the screenplay and filmmaking or simply  because it is a movie that puts Christ in a good light and that you are christian.  How exactly is it inspired?
From what I have heard from friends both christian and not, the movie was crap.  Not one orignal idea, unless you count possibly making it more gory than most mainstream films.  I've heard apart from that it is one big cliche. Religiously and artistically.

HALLELUYA BROTHERS AND SISTERS!   laff

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« Reply #37 on: 04-24-2004 04:51 »

 
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Originally posted by davierocks:
For the people who voted "inspired, wonderful"  did you vote this because of the screenplay and filmmaking or simply  because it is a movie that puts Christ in a good light and that you are christian.  How exactly is it inspired?
From what I have heard from friends both christian and not, the movie was crap.  Not one orignal idea, unless you count possibly making it more gory than most mainstream films.  I've heard apart from that it is one big cliche. Religiously and artistically.

Why is it so astounding that someone who appreciates the source material would be willing to gloss over the films flaws? I'm sure you can find avid comic book readers who enjoyed Daredevil, the Hulk and the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen; why should we expect any different from intensely religious folks?

While I wouldn't mark the movie as "inspired" or "wonderful", I would count it as an artistic success. It was quite original to film the movie entirely in indiginous languages, and I for one thought much of the cinematography was brilliant (especially the opening in the Garden of Gethsemane. Had the movie been able to keep up the atmosphere and quailty of that sequence, I would have liked this movie much more).

Also, consider this: could the movie seem cliche because it's based on a story that's been around for 2000 years? Could some elements of the story be so wide-known as to have become cliche? I've heard similar arguements from some people regarding LOTR, when they don't realize how old the source material is.
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« Reply #38 on: 04-24-2004 05:08 »

All good points but perhaps not entirely relavent.  To me if someone votes "inspired, wonderful", it suggests that it is may well be the best film they'll see this year.  It might even make there all time top 10.  What did this movie do that made it so great?  I haven't seen it myself and am only going on what friends have told me.  Hence me asking the question in the first place.
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« Reply #39 on: 04-24-2004 05:33 »

 
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Originally posted by davierocks:
All good points but perhaps not entirely relavent.  To me if someone votes "inspired, wonderful", it suggests that it is may well be the best film they'll see this year.  It might even make there all time top 10.  What did this movie do that made it so great?  I haven't seen it myself and am only going on what friends have told me.  Hence me asking the question in the first place.

Hey, I don't know. The public is a weird thing. They push the Academy to give Titanic best picture, and have elevated Ashton Kutcher to superstar status. How do you explain anything they latch on to?

For me, the movie seemed an admirable effort but didn't live up to my expectations, thanks to its overly-narrow focus on the suffering of Jesus and a lack of historical context. Great cinematography, good performances, capable direction, okay script, poor selection of plot elements.
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