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Gorky

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« Reply #720 on: 03-30-2004 19:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
That's BS. Stewart Burns wrote his fair share of turkeys on Futurama.   hmpf

Here are my ratings for the episodes he wrote:

"My Three Suns"-I thought it was an okay season 1 episode, but definitely not my favorite. There were some good jokes and I liked the plot, but overall, it's not a favorite. B

"Mars University"-Not that great. I thought that it was one of the weakest episodes of the first season, if not that. The "Animal House" parody was funny, but I couldn't stand Guenter. I think that this one actually had a lot of potential, and I would have enjoyed it if it weren't for the side story about that stupid monkey. C-

"A Head in the Polls"-Not my favorite of season two, but it was a pretty good episode. I mean, there were plenty of great lines ("Bodies are for hookers and fat people", is the one that I always remember), there was a lot of Nixon, and the plot wasn't completely focused on Bender, but rather the three main characters. B+

"The Deep South"-This one is very fondly rated by reviewers at CGEF, but it isn't a favorite of mine. Don't get me wrong, it's one of the funniest episodes of the second season, I just don't enjoy it as much as other episodes. But, Donovan was great, and so was Parker Posey, so that's worth something. Also, this is an episode that (like "A Head in the Polls" ) focuses on the whole crew, not just Fry and Umbriel, which is a good thing as well. A-

"The Cryonic Woman"-One of the worst episodes of the series. I think that the idea of the crew being fired and having to find new jobs has so much potential, but Fry's girlfriend, Michelle, was a mistake. I think bringing her character back after her introduction in "Space Pilot 3000" was a bad idea. Like I said, this one would have been better if it had just focused on Fry, Leela, and Bender trying to find new jobs, getting them and hating them, and then trying to get there jobs at Planet Express back. C-

"Where the Buggalo Roam"-Absolutely horrible, and the worst episode of the series, in my book. I enjoy the Wong family, Zapp, and Kif and find them funny, but for some reason I just couldn't get into this one. The plot never really appealed to me, and I just don't find the episode to be exceptionally funny. D-

"Roswell that Ends Well"-This is Stewart Burns' best episode, in my opinion. It's funny, original, and it just seems like an Emmy-worthy episode to me. It has this unique feeling to it, and the ending is just beautifully animated. A+

And, I know that it may not count as an episode, but the plot of the Futurama video game was rather unique, although:


And, he also wrote "Moe Baby Blues", one of the best episodes of season 14. So, I think we can expect "The Way We Weren't" to be an exceptional episode.

User_names_suck
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« Reply #721 on: 03-30-2004 19:42 »

Its funny cryonic woman seems to be a particulary hated episode, but I thought it was very funny, it went downhill a bit in the scene with all the kids, but then picked up again when they get picked up to go to hebrew school. and all the L.A bashing I thought was very funny, its My 4th favourite of season 2 and a head in the polls is The best of the season in my opinion.
'My three suns' and 'mars university' are pretty average really. most of season 1 wasn't particulary good so never mind them.
'Deep south' and 'Buggalo roam' I think are about average for the season both pretty good.
and Roswell is fantastic though I dont hold quite such a high opinion of it as everyone else.

Starnge once again were talking about futurama in a simpsons thread on a futurama board.
Well It seems were going to need a new thread for this soon since we zoomed through the first 10 pages in heated discussion, (much like the first review thread)
so how about we think of a title for it, (it should be funny the first time but gets less funny the more you hear it.)
Gorky

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« Reply #722 on: 03-30-2004 19:49 »

I got one: "The Simpsons Season 15 Review Thread-Part Three: The Sequel to the sequel to the thread that I don't think they should have made in the first place". That's an homage to a line from The Critic, for anyone who cares.
newhook_1

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« Reply #723 on: 03-30-2004 21:53 »
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@Gorky's review of Where the Buggalo Roam: I think the biggest problem with this episode is the fact that the conflict is ended like 3 times, but then it's artifically started again. It's almost as if they had trouble filling the whole 22 minutes.

How about "The Simpsons Season 15 Review Thread-Part Three: Unloved by Al" for the next thread title?

*edit* In "Tis the 15th Season" Was it "unloved by Al" or "hated by Al"? I forget.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #724 on: 03-30-2004 22:01 »

No, it's Unloved by Al.
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #725 on: 03-30-2004 22:02 »

I thought it was 'loved by Al"
Ranadok

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« Reply #726 on: 03-30-2004 22:58 »

It was definitely "Unloved by Al(l)"
DotheBartman

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« Reply #727 on: 03-31-2004 01:14 »

Cyber: "Lisa's Sax" is great but to be honest I think its probably the weakest of the flashback shows, barring "And Maggie Makes Three".  It was great overall but the story wasn't always especcially compelling or focused (it completely drops Bart in Kindergarten half-way through), and even runs into the problem later shows would commonly have where the "emotion" was quickly apologized for, in this case the "My retinas detached again" gag.  In fact I tend to prefer "The Cartridge Family" over Lisa's Sax anyway as a season nine episode (although I think "Moe Baby Blues" is still a little better then it).  Also for the record I think Lisa's Sax was originally produced/recorded somewhere around season seven, but was held off for a LONG time.
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« Reply #728 on: 03-31-2004 13:36 »

I actually love "And Maggie Makes Three", I laugh so hard at so many points, while the story isn't perfect Homer is fantastic throughout it. Its actually my favourite of the flashback episodes.

I think we should go with  Unloved by Al
Kryten

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« Reply #729 on: 03-31-2004 14:48 »

As long as Nurdbot doesn't get to name it, I'm fine.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #730 on: 03-31-2004 15:13 »

Hey, get with the times. I've named some good threads recently.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #731 on: 03-31-2004 16:29 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
I actually love "And Maggie Makes Three"

Yeah, that would make a cloolsome name for the third Simpsons Season 15 thread too...

J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #732 on: 03-31-2004 16:40 »

I liked "And Maggie Makes Three" too.
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« Reply #733 on: 03-31-2004 16:47 »

Well how about
The Simpson,season 15
"And Review Threads Make Three"
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #734 on: 03-31-2004 16:59 »

I like Unloved by Al better
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #735 on: 03-31-2004 17:06 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
Well how about
The Simpson,season 15
"And Review Threads Make Three"

I like it...

leelaholic

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« Reply #736 on: 03-31-2004 17:07 »
« Last Edit on: 03-31-2004 17:07 »

And for part 4...

"Fifteen Seasons of Fame"
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #737 on: 03-31-2004 17:09 »

Part 4!?...
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #738 on: 03-31-2004 17:10 »

It's never too early to plan ahead.
leelaholic

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« Reply #739 on: 03-31-2004 17:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Part 4!?...
[Simon Cowell] Yes, Otis, because 4 is a larger number than 3. Do you see how that works? [/SC]

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #740 on: 03-31-2004 17:24 »

It works on a flat, monotone, simplistic level, just like you...
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #741 on: 03-31-2004 17:25 »

Ooh, burn!  laff
User_names_suck
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« Reply #742 on: 03-31-2004 17:46 »

Good lord the broom up that mans ass has a broom up its ass.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #743 on: 03-31-2004 17:52 »

Of course you'd be assed to look...
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #744 on: 03-31-2004 19:11 »

Wait, I'm confused...
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #745 on: 04-01-2004 02:43 »

Margical History Tour aired in Australia last night. Total, utter, bollocks. Even in later eps, these '3-story' ones are usually a little better... but MHT just wang's chung. I think perhaps The Simpsons reached a new low with the 'Grow a penis' joke. All I can do is shake my head and cry.

It probably didn't help that my favourite episode of all time, "Homer Bad Man," aired the previous day... my, how the mighty have fallen.  no no
CyberKnight

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« Reply #746 on: 04-01-2004 06:56 »

Aw, man - the Aussies are ahead of us?  wink

@DtB: I'm actually a big fan of "And Maggie Makes Three". In conjunction with "Lisa's Wedding", I think it's an episode which perfectly describes Homer's character - or at the very least, what I think Homer's character should be. He's somebody who knows he's not particularly smart, but is willing to suffer to support his family. (This is opposed to later seasons where he seems to be willing to make his family suffer to make him happy).

"The Cartridge Family" didn't really strike me as being particularly impressive. Maybe it's the fact that Sky didn't show it when they were showing Season 9 (so I only saw it on the BBC in 2002), colouring my judgement when comparing it to other contemporary episodes, or the fact that gun ownership is a bit of a non-issue here in the UK, but I thought it was another example of Homer beginning to act like his jerkass incarnation.

PCC Fred

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« Reply #747 on: 04-01-2004 08:31 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
"The Cartridge Family" didn't really strike me as being particularly impressive. Maybe it's the fact that Sky didn't show it when they were showing Season 9 (so I only saw it on the BBC in 2002), colouring my judgement when comparing it to other contemporary episodes, or the fact that gun ownership is a bit of a non-issue here in the UK, but I thought it was another example of Homer beginning to act like his jerkass incarnation.

Actually gun ownership was a huge issue in the UK following the Dunblane massacre, which is why the episode wasn't shown on Sky.
Ranadok

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« Reply #748 on: 04-01-2004 11:12 »

Hmmm... perhaps I should watch that again, what with all the crazy goings-on in Canada over guns this past little while (since I saw it last). It was part of season nine, you say?
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« Reply #749 on: 04-01-2004 13:33 »
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I dont think DTB was saying AMMT was a bad episode just the weakest of the flashback episodes.

by the way we could combine the two titles
Unloved by Al - The Simpsons season 15 "And Review Threads Make Three"
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #750 on: 04-01-2004 16:05 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 Actually gun ownership was a huge issue in the UK following the Dunblane massacre, which is why the episode wasn't shown on Sky.

That's kinda like how "The City Of New York vs. Homer" wasn't shown after 9/11 for a while and the "When Buildings Collapse" scene was cut from "Lisa The Simpson".
leelaholic

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« Reply #751 on: 04-01-2004 17:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
It works on a flat, monotone, simplistic level, just like you...
Geez, settle down, Otis. I didn't mean it in an insulting way. I just saw a chance to use a quote and couldn't resist. You don't have to snap.

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #752 on: 04-01-2004 17:19 »

That wasn't snapping, I couldn't resist either...
PCC Fred

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« Reply #753 on: 04-01-2004 18:31 »

BTW, I've read today that the Simpsons voice artists are striking over pay.  It may just be an April Fool's joke, does anyone have any conformation?
Ranadok

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« Reply #754 on: 04-01-2004 18:45 »
« Last Edit on: 04-01-2004 18:45 »

I've seen it reported at a number of news agencies, including CNN and BBC, so it's either legit, or very well done.
newhook_1

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« Reply #755 on: 04-01-2004 19:22 »

Hmmmm... looks pretty ligit, guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure.
Levitate_Me

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« Reply #756 on: 04-01-2004 19:28 »
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
Hmmmm... looks pretty ligit, guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure.

I was thinking about posting this news about the voice actors going on strike but I have been very April Fool's wary especially about my favorite cartoon shows. 

Oh and I was just wondering I was just watching, The Flaming Moe(Homer) episode.  I was watching this and I expected to see this complete bit.

"I am makng people happy, I am the magical man....." you know that whole bit and then Homer leaves and then comes back and says to Marge "If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic" and then Marge says "Well Duh!"

For some reason they cut out the part where Homer comes in, I thought that was the funniest part of that joke. I remember it being there because right after he left, I finished the line and homer just didn't come back and it cut to another scene. I guess maybe it cut for time, that sucks.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #757 on: 04-01-2004 19:57 »

I dunno, voice actors tend to be somewhat underpayed, definitely not given as much credo as 'real' actors despite tending to emote on a much more convincing level[the good ones, anyway]. I think we can consider the Simpsons cast part of 'the good ones'. Anyway, I wouldn't have picked today to strike, Lest it be taken as Jest.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #758 on: 04-01-2004 20:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Levitate_Me:
  Oh and I was just wondering I was just watching, The Flaming Moe(Homer) episode.  I was watching this and I expected to see this complete bit.

"I am makng people happy, I am the magical man....." you know that whole bit and then Homer leaves and then comes back and says to Marge "If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic" and then Marge says "Well Duh!"

For some reason they cut out the part where Homer comes in, I thought that was the funniest part of that joke. I remember it being there because right after he left, I finished the line and homer just didn't come back and it cut to another scene. I guess maybe it cut for time, that sucks.

You watched it on tv, I assume? 

That scene is infact a syndication cut.  The reason you still remember seeing it is probably that they show that scene uncut in the "138th Episode Spectacular" when they're showing clips of Homer getting dumber and dumber.  Its also, along with several other cuts to that episode, restored on the dvd.

As for the actor strike, its nothing to worry about.  Whenever the contract expires there's apparently some sort of public statement made before the new ones are layed out.  According to an NHC member that, shall we say, very knowledgable about this stuff, the fact that they're announcing it in this way is a good/sure sign that the contracts will be renewed.

There's been varying information, but I think they're now asking for a little over 300,000 dollars an episode, up from 100,000 previously.  I'm not really sure how I feel about that.  On one hand voice actors are underappreciated and underpaid compared to all the hacks that rake in a million per episode on live action dreck.  But that still seems to be a pretty ridiculous amount.  I think actors should just be paid less in general, I guess.

leelaholic

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« Reply #759 on: 04-02-2004 09:45 »
« Last Edit on: 04-02-2004 09:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
That wasn't snapping, I couldn't resist either...
Oh, okay.   tongue    wink

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
Hmmmm... looks pretty ligit, guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure.

Ohhh. Is it tomorrow yet?  frown
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