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« Reply #200 on: 07-11-2005 18:37 »

I still think Star Trek does the science/serious elements of sci-fi better than Stargate (which has a tendency to lift concepts from other shows and not take itself very seriously, which removes some of the drama in episodes like "The Lost City" ). However, Stargate excells at the humorous aspects of sci-fi ("Window of Opportunity" is far, far better than any comedic episode Star Trek has put out (even "Message in a Bottle", my own personal favourite), in my opinion).  big grin
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« Reply #201 on: 07-12-2005 00:26 »

I think in some aspects, it's too difficult to compare the two shows.

They take Scifi in two totally different directions. It's similar to comparing StarTrek with StarWars. It just doesnt work.
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« Reply #202 on: 07-12-2005 01:04 »

 
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I think in some aspects, it's too difficult to compare the two shows.

They take Scifi in two totally different directions. It's similar to comparing StarTrek with StarWars. It just doesnt work.

Well, it works, it just isn't as tidy as most people want it to be (who is the moron who said you can't compare apples and oranges, anyhow?  It's easier than comparing say... a groundhog to the Oort Cloud or something like that... but that's more than a bit off topic)

Anyhow, I prefer Stargate beause it's a bit more real than Star Trek, though I haven't really watched any pre-Ent Star Trek (outside of some later era Voyager episodes) in years and years, and Stargate has been turning more traditional sci-fi lately, what with all the starships and whatnot being more of the focus/main method of travel, rather than the stargate itself. 

For the first two seasons or so, SG1 was very much like Star Trek without the starship, with nearly every episode featuring a planet with a strange creature/plant/disease that threatened to destroy the team/base/planet if they don't learn how to kill/communicate with/otherwise remove it within the hour.  But, just as I was getting bored of the show, it evolved into a bit more of a continuity/serialized show, which I generally prefer. 

I'd want to re-watch more of the older Star Treks before I try to decide witch one is better. I have fond memories of Trek, but when I actually think about it, a lot of the things I remember aren't really that good. I think I may... borrow... a friends copy...  of the DVDs... *cough*
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« Reply #203 on: 07-15-2005 02:44 »

Woo! New episodes tomorrow!  big grin

Squeeeeeeee!
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« Reply #204 on: 07-15-2005 12:38 »

No, new episodes tonight!  Don't forget Battlestar Galactica premiers tonight as well.  Now I've just got to remember to set the damn VCR up when I get home.
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« Reply #205 on: 07-16-2005 14:46 »
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Wow. Incredible episodes from both SG-1 and Atlantis.


Can't wait for more...   big grin
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« Reply #206 on: 07-31-2005 00:12 »

*bump*

After watching the past two weeks, I really think both shows are hitting there stride early this year.

For SG-1, having Vala there brings so much to the show, and amazingly, her comedy almost makes up for Jack O'Neill's absence.

And on Atlantis, the show is begining to show it's real potential, and is standing up to it's older brother in terms of entertainment value.
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« Reply #207 on: 08-05-2005 00:04 »

 
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For SG-1, having Vala there brings so much to the show, and amazingly, her comedy almost makes up for Jack O'Neill's absence.

After seeing the first episode of her in it, I was a little hesitant about her because her humor wasn`t showing that much. But when I saw her Vala in this season, she has become one of my favorite characters along with Daniel. When they`re together, they are the funniest people on the show [without O`Neill there].  smile
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« Reply #208 on: 08-05-2005 02:29 »

I finally realized why I don't like Vala so much: when I see Claudia Black, I'm used to seeing her beating the shit out of people*, not standing around like a floozy.  I could get used to it though.

*The purpose of the Peacekeeper is to flip out and kill people all the time.
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« Reply #209 on: 08-07-2005 20:01 »

Well, just got back from the StarGate Convention in NJ. Guests were Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge. These 2 men are halarious together. They so totally play off each other.  Their humor is sometimes a little over the top (Strip clubs and a prank game called "Turd Burglar" ). I know that Bender_Waffles has some pictures with her 'MAN' that she's excited about posting. If you ever get the opportunity to attend one of these conventions, I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #210 on: 08-07-2005 23:11 »
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Damn, I need to catch up here, I don't know who Vala is.
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« Reply #211 on: 08-08-2005 00:27 »

 
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Damn, I nned to catch up here, I don't know who Vala is.

You poor, poor soul...
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« Reply #212 on: 08-08-2005 00:37 »

 
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Well, just got back from the StarGate Convention in NJ. Guests were Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge. These 2 men are halarious together. They so totally play off each other.  Their humor is sometimes a little over the top (Strip clubs and a prank game called "Turd Burglar" ). I know that Bender_Waffles has some pictures with her 'MAN' that she's excited about posting. If you ever get the opportunity to attend one of these conventions, I highly recommend it.

I just posted them in the "Pixorbo" thread, if any one would like to see them  big grin
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« Reply #213 on: 08-26-2005 21:00 »

(Bump)

Aha...clones.  I was wondering how Baal was going to get away this time.  Also, did anyone else get a majot They Live vibe from his whole corporate takeover bit?
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« Reply #214 on: 08-26-2005 23:36 »

Awesome episode, my favorite of the season so far.

9.3/10
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« Reply #215 on: 08-27-2005 00:19 »
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Wait, is Vala that chick from Farscape that hijacked the Prometheus and fought and made out with Daniel?
She was weird.

Edit: Yes, she is. Gateworld.net says so.
And it's episode guide reminds me I've missed several episodes of S9.  frown
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« Reply #216 on: 08-28-2005 18:10 »

Yeah, that's her. She was in the first 6 episodes of Season 9. She was brought in to "fill in" for Amanda Tapping (Col Carter) while she was having her baby.

I really enjoyed her stint, and I look forward to them bringing her back.
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« Reply #217 on: 08-28-2005 18:16 »

Is it also true that fellow Farscape cast member Ben Browder is also on Stargate now. I seem to remeber reading something about him apearing in the show.
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« Reply #218 on: 08-28-2005 20:13 »

Yes, he is a permanent replacement as the head of SG-1, replacing Richard Dean Anderson (Jack O'Neill).

Other new cast members are:
-Beau Bridges (General Hank Landry), New Head of the SGC
-Louis Gossett Jr. (Gerak), Leader of the Free Jaffa Nation
-Lexa Doig (Dr. Lam), New Head SGC Doctor
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« Reply #219 on: 08-28-2005 22:20 »

OMFGKREE!
Son of Loyd, brother of Jeff in charge of the SGC?!? Awesome.

Was Louis Gosset Jnr. already an airforce General who looked on as O'Neill and Teal'c demoed the 1st Airforce-Goa'uld fighter hybrid? Or was he a different guy?
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« Reply #220 on: 08-28-2005 23:25 »

 
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Was Louis Gosset Jnr. already an airforce General who looked on as O'Neill and Teal'c demoed the 1st Airforce-Goa'uld fighter hybrid? Or was he a different guy?

You McRacist!  They all look alike to you, don't they?
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« Reply #221 on: 08-29-2005 13:26 »

Those two guys do...

Are they twins or what??  big grin *nudges bankrupts arm then gets arrested*

Awww...
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« Reply #222 on: 08-29-2005 23:34 »

I believe the guy you're thinking of is Steven Williams. He's the guy who played the character X on the X-Files.
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« Reply #223 on: 10-25-2005 12:40 »

Yay! SG-1 and Atlantis are renewed! http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/10/istargatesg-1iandiatlantis.shtml
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« Reply #224 on: 10-25-2005 16:10 »

Whoop-eth for the renewal.

I rented the movie a couple of weeks ago. I forgot how good it was and how much the Disney movie Atlantis: The Lost Empire copied Stargate. I mean, seriously, A:TLE has almost the same storyline as Stargate and almost exact characters with different names. Stargate was excellent to rewatch. Oddly, I have a report to do about polytheism, particularly Egyptian.
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« Reply #225 on: 10-25-2005 17:12 »

Take it outside, Egyptian boy!

Unless you plan to write your report about evil aliens posing as Gods and travelling across the galaxy...

I agree with above people, although I missed todays episodes on account of sleepiness.  frown
The Atlantis one was especially cool, but where did the Deadalus come from? I missed some episodes of SG-1 and the last episode of the last season of Atlantis!
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« Reply #226 on: 10-25-2005 18:55 »

 
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Take it outside, Egyptian boy!

Unless you plan to write your report about evil aliens posing as Gods and travelling across the galaxy...

Actually, I was, but due to limited time to research and the rough draft due tomorrow, I was unable to include Stargate's references to ancient mythology.
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« Reply #227 on: 10-26-2005 00:42 »

 
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...but where did the Deadalus come from? I missed some episodes of SG-1 and the last episode of the last season of Atlantis!

They announced the creation of the Daedulus in the Season 8 finale of SG-1. And in the SG-1 Season 9 premier, Daniel was scheduled to travel to Atlantis in it's first trip. It's basically the Prometheus' sister ship, but is more advanced since all the cool Asgard stuff was added beforehand, not as an afterthought. Since it's introduction, it's been pretty much been running back and forth from Earth to Atlantis.

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« Reply #228 on: 01-19-2006 21:34 »

*bump kree*

Over halfway into the 2nd season of Atlantis and I'm still interested in this show, anyone else?

Last episode ("Michael", S02E18) was pretty good, with that guy from Star Trek Enterprise, although I wish I hadn't read the summary of it on GateWorld before I saw it!
Mental note: Don't spoil episodes on yourself!
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« Reply #229 on: 01-20-2006 02:24 »
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Michael was pretty good (I agree with you on the spoilers), but a number of episodes so far this season (in both series) have been pretty weak (My little sister figured out the plot of SG1's Collateral Damage in the first ten minutes, and did everyone take stupid pills for Atlantis's The Long Goodbye?).  It seems to me that Atlantis lacks focus, and is borrowing too many plots from earlier SG1 (Perhaps not entire episodes, but definately in theme and several specific plot points). I'm enjoying Battlestar Galactica a lot more this season.
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« Reply #230 on: 01-20-2006 14:31 »

I wonder if Ford will be back.

And how many drones did they get from that place?
Just one will take out a Hive ship, right? Yay!
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« Reply #231 on: 01-20-2006 14:45 »

I loved the episode "Epiphany" when Sheppard got trapped in that Ancient sanctuary. Awesome story, and it played out really well.

Not to mention, that it showd Dr Mckay at his funniest. I mean come on, he referred to Tayla and Ronan as "Conan and Xena". Fucking priceless.

Oh, and M.A.L.P on a stick.  laff
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« Reply #232 on: 01-20-2006 16:02 »

AFAIK, the actor that played Ford left to work on another show, and I saw him two weeks ago in a comedy pilot on CBC (a pretty crappy one, but it's CBC, so that's neither here nor there), so my guess is that he'll be back for guest appearances every once in a while, but not full time. I think I remember reading something to that effect on a stargate site, but it was some time ago. Which is too bad, as I much prefered him to the walking cliche that is Ronin.
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« Reply #233 on: 01-20-2006 18:55 »

Ronon!
So as not to be easily confused with the masterless samurai from fuedal Japan of the same name!  tongue

Ya, I thought he might have left for another show. I wonder did he not have that long a contract or if it was planned to write him out of the show in that way.
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« Reply #234 on: 01-21-2006 00:42 »

 
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Ronon!
So as not to be easily confused with the masterless samurai from fuedal Japan of the same name!   tongue
My bad.   roll eyes

 
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Ya, I thought he might have left for another show. I wonder did he not have that long a contract or if it was planned to write him out of the show in that way.

I read online at some point (and the reliability of my 'fact' drops ten points instantly...) that he asked to be written out, which I can see, as a leading role in a network show (even a Canadian one  big grin ) would be more appealing to an actor than a minor character in a cable sci-fi show. Well, you would think that, at least.

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« Reply #235 on: 01-31-2006 21:45 »

z0mg Atlantis Season Finale!  eek

This one had me kind of guessing, will they, won't they... then of course they did, stupid Atlantians *slaps their foreheads for them*

Also, did anyone notice that "Team A" in Zalenkas lab, was hottt?!  flirt
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« Reply #236 on: 03-16-2006 16:55 »
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but I wonder what would happen if you had O'Neill and MacGyver at the same place...

O'Neill: Oh noes!  We're trapped by the goa'uld!  Here Angus, shoot them with this gun!
Macguyver: ::Hastily builds a bomb out of chewing gum and duct tape that hurts the goa'uld but doesn't actually kill them, disctracting them long enough to make his escape::
O'Neill: ::Witty rejoinder::

Edit: Ww?  Is that a quadruple-u?
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« Reply #237 on: 03-16-2006 17:19 »
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So the Season 9 finale? Pretty awesome, huh?

But those Ori ships were totally stolen from Homeworld, Bentusi anyone?

Must watch all of S9 when it's all neat and tidily downloaded onto my HD!   tongue
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« Reply #238 on: 03-16-2006 23:26 »

Only seen one S9 episode.  Sad.  Far as I can tell, it was pretty steeped in Arthurian lore, too, and that sounds pretty neat.

So what's the general consensus on the new not-Jack?  Seemed pretty decent to me.
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« Reply #239 on: 03-16-2006 23:48 »

Nix, yeah Season 9 is centered on a new enemy now that the Go'uld are pretty much gone (cept Baal who's still alive and kicking) called the Ori. The season (as you said) deals alot with Arthurian mythology, kinda straying from the Egyptian Lore of old. Quite interesting.

Mitchell is pretty good, obviously he will never be as amazing a character as O'Neill was. I find it kinda similar to Jonas taking Daniel's place for Season 6. He did a GREAT job, but he just wasn't Dr Jackson.

@Faze: Yeah, I was greatly impressed by the finale. I'm a sucker for big space battles. I mean, we had Earth, the Tokra, the Jaffa, the Lucian Alliance, AND the Asgard all fighting. That's pretty freaking sweet.

But I must say, overall I was more impressed with Atlantis this year. They really hit their stride in Season 2, and the plots were just amazing. I loved the episode with the Genii coup and the one where you find out that Colonel Caldwell was a Gould agent trying to destroy the city. Absolutely brilliant stuff...

Also, has anyone else heard that Claudia Black will be joining SG-1 as a permanant cast member for Season 10?  love
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