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« on: 02-13-2004 15:16 »

Ok, I dunno why I've never made this thread, and I know there's a few fans around so here it is!

You can discuss the movie, the TV show or the animated series which I've heard of but not seen.

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« Reply #1 on: 02-13-2004 15:46 »

It still makes me cross that:

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« Reply #2 on: 02-13-2004 15:52 »

I regret reading that spoiler  frown

Great show, nice to see a TV spin off that is pretty good  smile

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« Reply #3 on: 02-13-2004 16:10 »
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I've recently watched the whole of SG-1 up to and including Avenger 2.0 (as well as both parts of "Heroes" ), and I've really enjoyed it. It's so refreshing to watch a sci-fi series that doesn't take itself too seriously. And I still enjoy it in Season 7 almost as much as Season 1.

And I rewatched the film and found I enjoyed it much more (largely because I understood it better   tongue).

Quick question for Faze, who seems knowledgeable about the gate and the coordinate system;

When the SGC dials an outgoing wormhole, they're essentially dialing the gate manually using electromagnets, right?

However, as I understand it, each glyph is rotated until it falls under the uppermost chevron (the one that "locks" ) and the appropriate light lights up.

What we also know is that a symbol cannot be repeated in a gate address. So my query is this; in a few episodes, the Earth symbol is shown locking but not as the final chevron. Is this just a production error?   wink


Although to be honest, they've been fairly consistent in how they deal with the gate system (or at the very least more consistent than Star Trek's science). I'm still slightly hazy on how they compensate for stellar drift, though.   wink
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« Reply #4 on: 02-13-2004 17:16 »
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I watched until fall 2000, when I went off to college and forgot to watch it.  I tried to start up again, but I was completely lost.

I think the last full episode I watched involved them blowing up a giant space pyramid.
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« Reply #5 on: 02-13-2004 18:07 »

 
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It still makes me cross that:


I liked the movie...love the show. Doc Frasier is probably my favorite character. I had not heard about what you wrote in your spoiler. Maybe I just haven't seen it yet, but the news isn't on her website. You're probably right...but I sure hope you're wrong.     

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« Reply #6 on: 02-13-2004 19:04 »

I do love this show. I was not a fan of the movie but the series around.

Oh and Cyberknight. I believe they only have one gate made so it is used for all shots of the gate. I don't know if that helps at all.
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« Reply #7 on: 02-13-2004 19:17 »

 
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Oh and Cyberknight. I believe they only have one gate made so it is used for all shots of the gate. I don't know if that helps at all.

I know what the technical reason is, I'm just one of those annoying people who demands a "canon" explanation for any discrepancies.  tongue

Apparently the gate in the SGC fully moves and rotates as in the show (the main difference being that when all 7 chevrons are locked, no wormhole is established.  wink). The one on Abydos is a static prop (in fact, I thought this was another continuity error that the Abydos gate doesn't rotate like the SGC one, but then I found out that the DHD has the capability to "fast-dial" the gate).
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« Reply #8 on: 02-13-2004 19:21 »
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
What we also know is that a symbol cannot be repeated in a gate address. So my query is this; in a few episodes, the Earth symbol is shown locking but not as the final chevron. Is this just a production error?
I never noticed, can you remember which episodes?
I know there's one episode when the gate is used to travel to a different galaxy and 8 symbols are dialled, that's the only one I can think of that the Earth symbol wasn't locked last.
Edit: Nope, it was locked last.
Answer: Stupid error.

And I read that the beta gate had a different point of origin, which would make sense if it's a lot older than the gate found in Giza (stellar drift).   smile

I like the way they poke fun at other sci-fi storylines like in the 100th episode:
"If I'm 'out of phase' and can walk through walls, how come I don't fall through the floor?"

A rule which they had already broken of course.  hmpf

Everybody, next time you watch, try to see how many Wizard of Oz references you can count, especially from O'Neill.
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« Reply #9 on: 02-13-2004 19:56 »

Settle in, this could be a long one...... wink

Ok, first, regarding the point of origin on the Beta gate:

The beta gate is first seen in "Solitudes". We get a clear look at the point of origin symbol, which is a single sun with a pillar beside it (which, ironically, looks a lot like the Delphi symbol - proof that the gate-builders programmed in Pascal!  wink). We all know the Alpha gate's point-of-origin is the sun-above-pyramid.

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« Reply #10 on: 02-15-2004 11:35 »

 
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It still makes me cross that:



Yes despite that was in  a spoiler. I feel I have to say.

Thanks for spoiling it.

She IS hot. I agree
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« Reply #11 on: 02-15-2004 12:30 »

I just noticed that Aida from Unreal II is the spitting image of Janet Frasier/Teryl Rothery.
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« Reply #12 on: 02-15-2004 19:22 »

well... in my opinon, the film was terrible. Utter, utter shite. The actor who played o'neil was'nt suited to the part. (makes me wretch just thinking about it)o'neil in the series however, could not of been cast beter! .... too much of the stuff up there confused me. *cry*
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« Reply #13 on: 02-16-2004 03:28 »

Nagrub, did you watch the film before the any of the TV series? If you had I doubt you'd have disliked it as much.
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« Reply #14 on: 02-16-2004 13:48 »

Yeah nagrub, the film came before the series, so you should think RDA isn't suited to the part of O'Neill.
They dealt with the whole "O'Neill being suicidal" storyline in the 1st series (Cold Lazarus, episode 6).

I actually couldn't tell it was a different Daniel Jackson earlier on in the series, Mickie Shanks is a great replacement, and I'm glad they got him back for the final few series.

Yay! They're making a season 8! I thought they were gonna stop after 7!! w00t!
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« Reply #15 on: 02-24-2004 19:13 »

Tonight's episode:

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« Reply #16 on: 02-24-2004 20:59 »

I thought Woolsey (heh heh... Woolsey!) sounded like he was making the same points over and over to the president (well played by William Devane)  smile

I like that


By re-recorded you mean: they did his voice again for that episode?
I didn't notice, but maybe it was to make it sound better, and if I'm not mistaken, Micheal Shanks does Thor's voice anyway so it would have been easy.
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« Reply #17 on: 02-25-2004 05:03 »

Yeah, that was pretty much my question - since Shanks wasn't around for the 6th Season (actually, it seems like he was there most of the time anyway in some shape or form!  wink) might Thor have been voiced by someone else in "Disclosure"?

Or is my mind just playing audio tricks on me? (It wouldn't be the first time.  tongue)
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« Reply #18 on: 02-26-2004 18:06 »

The Tollan episode was on today, the one where they get attacked by ze Goa'uld and apparently wiped out (although I'd like to see if some of them survived).

So, what are the poorest episodes guys?
Personally, I hated Entity, where Carter gets taken over by an AI thingy, it just wasn't up to standard, like they just nicked it from another show.  frown
And that episode with the Alien spaceship race was sooo ripped off from Voyager! Booo!
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« Reply #19 on: 02-27-2004 02:03 »

You mean "Space Race"? Yeah, that was rather obviously similar to "Drive".  wink

I'd also like to see whether any Tollan have survived the events of "Between Two Fires" (if only so the Tau'ri can say I told you so  tongue).

Despite the fact that it's an NID episode, "Shades of Grey" slightly annoys me. Firstly, it's very similar in plot to the mini-arc Voyager had in Season 2 which culminated in "Investigations" (Paris pretends to be bad, leaves the ship, really secret plan, blah blah blah), which I also didn't like (but that's because they were screwing with my favourite character).

Here, it just feels out of place for Jack to be acting like that. Especially from the very start of the episode, which adds to the feeling of "Hang on, something else is going on here".

We know that O'Neill thinks that Earth's allies (apart from the Asgard) are being one-sided in their alliances, but we also know that he'd never actively steal technology from them - he's too smart for that. So the episode is already on a very shaky foundation.

Another think which Stargate suffers extensively from is the phenomenon known as YAATE (Yet Another Abrupt Trek Ending) - although I suppose it would be YAASE, here.  big grin Too often they cut to black before the team have even gone back through the gate, in my opinion. It's a minor quibble, but it's always nice to get some aftermath to the episode (admittedly, they're a heck of a lot better at following through with threads in subsequent episodes than Voyager ever was).
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« Reply #20 on: 02-27-2004 15:46 »

"Between Two Fires" also introduced Anubis, wooo!
*waves pants*

The 100th episode "Wormhole X-treme!" is gonna be shown on Tuesday (if Sky are showing Season 5 in order!)
And I can't wait to see those cool Matix-style fighting bits again in "The Warrior" episode, being shown shortly.  smile
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« Reply #21 on: 02-27-2004 23:36 »

Do you guys like that Teal'c is this great warrior, yet is the biggest rube?  How many times has he decided to leave the SGC for a woman or some cause only to be duped?  It irritates me when they write a story that seems to imply he has little common sense.  These aren't always bad episodes, but they're the type I like the least.
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« Reply #22 on: 02-28-2004 04:34 »

I like that Teal'c is an idealist, and honourable. Unfortunately, he's quite naive when it comes to his own people, and his desire for freedom for the Jaffa  often gets in the way of common sense.

In a way, this can be explained by his long service to Apophis. The Go'auld are pretty poor when it comes to deception - they do what they say they will do. And Teal'c was never as convinced as the rest of his people to Apophis' status as a god, so he doesn't know how strong their belief is.
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« Reply #23 on: 02-28-2004 20:24 »
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He most likely believed Apophis and Cronos (and the rest), were gods before he became Bratac's protogé (i.e. when his father was Cronos' First Prime), then he knew something wasn't right when Cronos killed him for no good reason and banished his ass.

But then, there's this:

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« Reply #24 on: 03-02-2004 16:04 »

Well, The Lost City (Part One) aired here tonight. Not bad, although I really hate having it broken up by the advert breaks.  wink

I think this is probably the longest single arc Stargate's ever done. From "Heroes, Part One" to the end of the second part of next season's opener it'll be a full seven episodes.

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« Reply #25 on: 03-02-2004 16:16 »

Did you see the little preview of next week?
Nice to see they'll use the Prometheus, I wonder what it's capable of?

I had a theory earlier on of where the Lost City is, and I've checked and I was right!

Great episode, classic season finale cliffhanger set up episode.
*bites nails*
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« Reply #26 on: 03-02-2004 16:26 »

 
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Did you see the little preview of next week?
Nice to see they'll use the Prometheus, I wonder what it's capable of?

I had a theory earlier on of where the Lost City is, and I've checked and I was right!

Great episode, classic season finale cliffhanger set up episode.
*bites nails*


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« Reply #27 on: 03-02-2004 16:28 »

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« Reply #28 on: 03-09-2004 17:01 »

The Lost City, Part 2:

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« Reply #29 on: 03-09-2004 20:24 »

I think that's the biggest spoiler I've ever seen, treat yourself to a cookie!

Anyhooo...
Great episode!
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« Reply #30 on: 07-10-2004 15:59 »

*BIG  Bump*

Was wondering if anyone saw that great Season Premier of SG1 last nite on SciFi. It was a great episode and a great opener to Season 8.

And just a reminder: Next week on Friday nite, the new series, StarGate: Atlantis debuts on SciFi.
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« Reply #31 on: 07-10-2004 17:52 »

I watched it last night.  It was pretty good.  There were a number of different stories going on, but they held it together pretty well.

I wonder how that Stargate: Atlantis will be.  The one enemy they keep showing on the commercial looks like Marilyn Manson.  I hope they're better than that.
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« Reply #32 on: 07-10-2004 22:00 »

the new enemy is called the Wraiths. They are actually the ones that destroyed the Ancients. They do look pretty frickin weird though. I dunno if they can take the place of the Goa'uld but I'm keeping an open mind.

I think this new series could be very good if we give it some time and wait ofr it to develop. Spinoff shows need time to flourish in the shadow of their huge predecessors (i.e. StarTrek: TNG and DS9).
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« Reply #33 on: 07-10-2004 23:06 »

I'll definitely be tuning in next week to see it.  The Sci-Fi Network has done a pretty good job with the SG-1 series the past few years, so I have more confidence they'll make Atlantis a decent show.

On the new season of SG-1, did they just boot the guy who played General Hammond off the show?  I know they said he got transfered, but I wonder if he will be on again.  I liked his character, I hope they didn't just totally get rid of him.
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« Reply #34 on: 07-11-2004 01:38 »

well... from what I've heard, Hammond will be appearing every once in a while on the show but he will be taking A MUCH more backseat role on the show with O'Neil in charge of the SGC.

For that matter, Richard Dean Anderson who plays O'Neil will also be seen alot less due to outside activities and he might not even appear in some episodes. He will be accompanying SG-1 on some missions but not on the majority of them (i wonder who fills in the gap in the group this time...)
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« Reply #35 on: 07-11-2004 09:28 »

Siler!!  tongue
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« Reply #36 on: 07-11-2004 12:43 »

 
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On the new season of SG-1, did they just boot the guy who played General Hammond off the show?  I know they said he got transfered, but I wonder if he will be on again.  I liked his character, I hope they didn't just totally get rid of him.

Don S. Davis (the actor who plays Hammond) independently decided that he didn't want to do another year of SG-1, not for any problems, but simply wanting to move on.

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« Reply #37 on: 07-12-2004 01:12 »

I just thought u guys might like this:
 http://www.jowood.com/press/index.php?site=1&lang=en&ScreenID=9664

Stargate SG-1 the videogame? Could have alot of potential...
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« Reply #38 on: 07-12-2004 08:35 »

So, Atlantis will be army dudes vs. Goths? Nyuck nyck nyck...
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« Reply #39 on: 07-17-2004 01:45 »

*bump*

I just saw the 1st episode of the new Stargate TV show, Atlantis. And i think it was great. It has a very interesting plot and this series has ALOT of potential. The new villains look freaky as hell, and could be as bad as the Goa'uld. The new set is breathtaking as are the special effects.

Can't wait til next week.  smile
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