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EspanolBot

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« Reply #120 on: 03-08-2004 08:01 »

Simpsons Movie = Does good in box-office = FOX brings back Futurama = Everyone happy.
This is the plan: everyone go and see it, with as many people as possible, then they have to bring Futurama back.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #121 on: 03-08-2004 11:41 »

ESPANOLBOT - Logic is nothing, postcount is everything.

I think you'll find that how well the Simpsons does at the box office has nothing to do with whether Futurama gets brought back or not.  Futurama's chances of resurrection depend on CN ratings, DVD sales, and lobotomies for FOX execs.
EspanolBot

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« Reply #122 on: 03-09-2004 06:24 »

I guess you're right. It a shame to give up after only three-ish year of constant complaining though.
jdan

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« Reply #123 on: 03-09-2004 09:54 »

Been complaining this long, maybe we should all go on hunger-strike...  smile
PCC Fred

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« Reply #124 on: 03-09-2004 10:09 »

BrainSluggo went on hunger strike as soon as Futurama got cancelled.  Which explains why he hasn't been around in over 18 months...
jdan

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« Reply #125 on: 03-09-2004 10:28 »

ok, so if we all broke into Fox studios and did a hunger-strike in Peter Chernin's office?
nerdlingus

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« Reply #126 on: 03-09-2004 11:39 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
BrainSluggo went on hunger strike as soon as Futurama got cancelled.  Which explains why he hasn't been around in over 18 months...

All I can imagine is his skeleton slumped in his chair with the "save Futurama" petition dropped at his feet.  laff

lol! aw, I'm killing me!

bender+fry

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« Reply #127 on: 03-09-2004 18:58 »

any news on what the movie will be about?
switch

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« Reply #128 on: 03-09-2004 23:39 »

i reckon that most tv series that are made into a movie or the other way around are not as good but i am hoping this one will be.
but if it does do well they might make a futurama one but that will be ages of as simpsons movie will not be out till 2006.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #129 on: 03-10-2004 11:29 »

 
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Originally posted by bender&fry:
any news on what the movie will be about?

Its still too early for them to really reveal anything.  According to Mike Reiss, even his wife doesn't know.

PCC Fred

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« Reply #130 on: 03-10-2004 11:34 »

 
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Originally posted by switch:
i reckon that most tv series that are made into a movie or the other way around are not as good

Like M*A*S*H, Buffy, Star Trek, Stargate, The X-Files...
Nurdbot

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« Reply #131 on: 03-10-2004 11:46 »

 
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ok, so if we all broke into Fox studios and did a hunger-strike in Peter Chernin's office?
Or we could kill them, even better.

canīt_read

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« Reply #132 on: 03-10-2004 12:48 »
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Ya know, I think it will be awful in the sense that it won't even halfway compare to the show, bu tI think it'll be enjoyable. Everyone complains that the show is going stale, and while I agree that it is not nearly as good as it used to be, it is still produces some of the most enjoyable stuff that is currently on television. The movie will be bad in comparision, but as an an animated comedy movie on its own, it will be excellent, I think.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #133 on: 11-09-2004 13:48 »

There's a new article about the Simpsons Movie floating about, this is off IGN. Anyway, it's not happening until 2008 (at least), so it's hardly worth thinking about now it's definitely so far off...

 
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Simpsons Movie in 2008

TV series continues strong. November 08, 2004 - The Simpsons - the only television series on Fox that anyone seems to watch - is into its sixteenth successful season, but producers are in no hurry to push out a feature film. Series creator Matt Groening has toyed with the idea of getting the Simpson family into theaters, but with the series doing so well, why bother?
Nonetheless, plans for a movie are slowly being put into motion. Producer Al Jean told Entertainment Weekly that writers are now working on the project, with several plotlines being considered.

"There are a couple things on the show that I steered away from what might be in the movie," said Jean. "The biggest thing is you don't want to do a movie that's not reflective of the quality of the show, and you don't want the quality of the show to slip because you're doing the movie. So we're taking a little time."

"A little time" translates to about 4 years: the Simpsons movie is not expected to reach theaters until 2008.

Other details about the sixteenth and seventeenth seasons of The Simpsons are available at the same Entertainment Weekly link. Stay tuned for more film news!
   Paul Davidson

Link to article... http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/564/564664p1.html
DotheBartman

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« Reply #134 on: 11-09-2004 18:30 »

For the record I'm not attacking you with this, Otis.  I'd report that article too if I wasn't used to these things by now.....

But frankly that article's a piece of shit.  Its essentially copied off a quote from a recent "Entertainment Weekly" and in this case taken out of context.

My impression, from the original article, is that all Jean's saying is "Oh yeah, we're working on it now, and if I had to give you some idea when it would come out, probably '08 at the earliest" (that's not the actual quote, just my impression of what Jean meant by it).  He's not saying "Mark your callendars now!", just "at the earliest, it might come out then".

But this IGN article (copied off some movies site that initially took the quotes out of context for the sake of "breaking news" ) should in particular not be taken too seriously.  Like Mike Reiss' vague comments earlier on about a 2006 date, this is just Jean taking a guess.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #135 on: 11-12-2004 23:33 »

I heard they're ending the series in 2009, after season 20.  Not sure if it's true.

If they make do make a Simpsons movie, it could be good, someone said before, that after the South Park movie, the show got better.  Maybe the same could happen here.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #136 on: 11-12-2004 23:43 »

I wouldn't say South Park got better after the movie... the movie was written during Seasons 2 & 3, which were fairly average. It was then followed by Seasons 4 and 5, which, despite a few good episodes, are pretty much the 2 worst seasons ever.

It didn't really get better until Season 6, which is generally regarded by fans as the show's best season. Either way, it still didn't air until 3 years after the movie came out.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #137 on: 11-13-2004 01:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Lrrr_2004:
I heard they're ending the series in 2009, after season 20.  Not sure if it's true.


Nothing's really true at this point.  There's just speculation at this point.  It could end after that, and it could end before that.  I think the 2009 comment actually comes from some recent Groening interview where he whimsically said he'd like for the show to go to season twenty ("a nice even number" ) and/or just used 2009 as some random date like "oh, it could eventually get there, we'll see".  Of course certain media sources took those comments out of context and said "Simpsons to end in 2009!", because that's more of a headline.

As for South Park, I think it got better after the movie, although granted I'm not sure how much that's related to the movie.  Contrary to Beamer I'd say seasons four and five of that show are very good, and would probably say that 5+ is the prime of the show.  Three and two are good as well, though I don't really care for the first season.

Eyedol7513

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« Reply #138 on: 11-13-2004 02:26 »
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SOURCE: "That Link The Creator Of This Thread Gave. The first article (at this time), 3rd page"
Perhaps the worst part about this is the loss of Matt Groening's other animated series, Futurama I'm just about the biggest fan of the sci-fi series that's ever lived, but even if I wasn't, it wouldn't be hard for me to crown the show superior to the current "Simpsons" in every way in its five-year lifespan. With the series-long love-hate affair between Fry and Leela, its characterization was superlative. Even with pseudo-topical humor, episodes such as the patriotism-questioning "A Taste of Freedom" are without equal. All at once, I am incredibly angry that Futurama was cancelled so early on only because of its inconvenient timeslot (often swallowed by Sunday Night Football), and yet also relieved that it was saved from the fate that its sister series has befallen.

*I so totally agree with this guy. We all know that if the movie is successful, they'll make more seasons and more movies. But the good news is, that they may make a Futurama season (and/or) movie comeback, using "From the creator/producer of The Simpsons." It's all about money and fan noticeability.*

DotheBartman

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« Reply #139 on: 11-13-2004 04:26 »

To throw my opinion here on the "Futurama should be going instead" argument....

The fact is that The Simpsons continuing has little to do with Futurama's cancellation.  Maybe its success does, but even if The Simpsons had stopped with season nine or ten and "passed the torch" to Futurama, Fox would still look at Futurama and have the same complaints about how its "not The Simpsons" or about how it isn't making the same kind of money.  Which is just typical tv executive stupidity and hardly the fault of the show that made Futurama possible in the first place.

And its just naive to assume (as the writer of that article seems to) that a cancellation of The Simpsons would somehow give Futurama a better chance.  Most likely, even if they tested it in that time slot, it wouldn't live up to the expectations they were used to from The Simpsons.  So it would move to some other slot (the "death slot" or otherwise) and Fox would keep testing other shows in that slot for a few years with no (in their eyes) huge success.  All the cancellation of The Simpsons would do, in essensce, is make room for far worse shows.  What if The Simpsons had ended by now?  Then we would have been given a string of "Wanda at Large" or "The Pitts"-style gutter trash in its place.

I lament the cancellation of Futurama as much as anyone, but the blame lies with stupid executives that didn't give it a fighting chance.  It lies with them not being content when Futurama was pulling otherwise good ratings and instead pulling support of a show that was still arguably building an audience.  But it doesn't lie with The Simpsons, or any other show (though granted Matt Selman was blaming it on "Family Guy"....), regardless of what one happens to think of those shows.
winna

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« Reply #140 on: 11-13-2004 08:29 »

That's it exactly.  The problem is that FOX is not the out of the box channel it once prided itself in being.  Now it's just let's try to rip off the success of the other channels and change that in some perverse or idiotically redundant manner. 

Futurama was killed because of bad decision making and that's the simple fact.  It had no promotional commercials, it was a in slot in which if you were lucky, you'd see the last 15 minutes.  There just wasn't any hope... What got me is I could see how Football beats out Futurama, but then a 30 minute post-game show?  WTF indeed...
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #141 on: 11-14-2004 02:58 »

^Exactly. Who the hell watches the post-game shows? Not many people I believe. (But if I am wrong, then oh well.)
DotheBartman

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« Reply #142 on: 11-14-2004 03:05 »

They are well-watched actually, as dumb as that is.
winna

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« Reply #143 on: 11-14-2004 03:24 »

Well sure they are... but a whole damn half hour when there's already programming scheduled?
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #144 on: 11-14-2004 16:17 »
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^Exactly. Too much pre-empting. FOX could have easily made an annoucement, and gave the pre-empted programs a special slot later in the week. (Instead of showing re-runs, put the pre-empted programs in their place for that day. It's so simple, yet they are so dumb.)
Yuki_in_space

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« Reply #145 on: 11-16-2004 05:35 »

Judging by how wretched that bake-off episode was, the only thing I can look forward to now in a Simpsons movie is swearing.
But, yeah, I'll go see it just like I'm going to the next Star Wars movie: tanked up and with very little hope.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #146 on: 11-16-2004 06:22 »

If they title the movie 'Simpsons go wild/crazy/big/to [location]' FOX needs some Stalinist purging.
Yuki_in_space

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« Reply #147 on: 11-16-2004 06:36 »

FOX needs Uncle Joe-style purging anyway.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #148 on: 11-16-2004 10:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
If they title the movie 'Simpsons go wild/crazy/big/to [location]' FOX needs some Stalinist purging.

Whatever title it gets won't neccesarily be Fox's fault (and as I say that as a Fox basher).  Groening and the show's producers have, near as I can tell, complete control over the movie.  If it sucks, or if the title sucks, you can blame Groening and the crew, not Fox.

And I think they'll be more creative than that anyway.

starone

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« Reply #149 on: 11-16-2004 13:01 »

Can Groening even do anything with the Simpsons anymore?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #150 on: 11-16-2004 13:34 »

I don't think he wants anything to do with them anymore, for a while now.
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« Reply #151 on: 11-16-2004 14:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
Exactly. Too much pre-empting. FOX could have easily made an annoucement, and gave the pre-empted programs a special slot later in the week. (Instead of showing re-runs, put the pre-empted programs in their place for that day. It's so simple, yet they are so dumb.)

They aren't dumb.  They wanted to kill the show, but they wanted to kill it in a way that gave them plausible deniability.  They put it in that timeslot because they knew that it would be pre-empted by football and get abysmal ratings.  Then they could say, 'sorry, we tried, but it just didn't do well in the ratings.'

 
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Originally posted by Nurdy:
If they title the movie 'Simpsons go wild/crazy/big/to [location]' FOX needs some Stalinist purging.

What makes you think that the movie won't simply be called The Simpsons (or The Simpsons Movie, or Simpsons: The Motion Picture, or something similar)?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #152 on: 11-16-2004 15:00 »

I'm a skeptical jerk who thinks that Simpsons will never be the same again. Duh.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #153 on: 11-16-2004 19:09 »
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
I don't think he wants anything to do with them anymore, for a while now.

He still comes in regularly to advise.  In fact he's apparently much more involved now that Futurama's done with.  And he's also usually pretty enthusiastic about the show in interviews, and still seems pretty thrilled and proud to be associated with it.

The fact that he isn't as involved as he used to be (circa around seasons 1-4) is true, but this myth that he suddenly hates the show somehow needs to stop.  Its just putting words into his mouth, even more so then a teletext interview.

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
I'm a skeptical jerk who thinks that Simpsons will never be the same again. Duh.

Most people would say that its never going to be the same again, but there's a difference between "not as good" and "bad".  Personally, if I held everything I watched to the standards of the first eight seasons of The Simpsons, I very much doubt I'd be a fan of Futurama.

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