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MattOSX

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« on: 01-17-2004 22:50 »

Perhaps it's easier to relate (to yet another) suburban family than a 1000 year hence delivery service?

I am shocked and (a little saddened) to see Family Guy 1/2+3 around 20-30  while Futurama has drifted to the hundreds in sales ranks. More stores are stocking FG and recommendation at amazon point to it all the time -- I would've thought the two shows who shared similar lives and deaths would be analogous in popularity, so why is there such a mania on FG?
Coop

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« Reply #1 on: 01-17-2004 22:55 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 00:00 by edeltraut »

Easy, because its comedy appeals the highest common denominator of people, and that is "in your face" low brow, unintelligent humor.
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #2 on: 01-17-2004 23:08 »

While what you say, Coop is true that's not the only people it appeals to. I enjoy Family Guy just as much as I enjoy Futurama and FG never made sit there and say "Wow that was a really smart joke" it did often do much more edgier humor. 
Coop

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« Reply #3 on: 01-17-2004 23:12 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 00:00 »

I just don't think that any of the characters had depth. They were all so obvious, A talking baby who wants to rule the world, an alchoholic dog and man who makes insanely obscure references to classic sitcoms. While some of the jokes yes, are very funny and some would take an educated person to understand. But I think the obvious reason that it's more popular than Futurama is because of its obvious humor. Much like Friends in comparison to Seinfeld. (jeez, how many seinfeld related things have I said during my time here at PEEL? I sure do mention it a lot.)
Jordan K

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« Reply #4 on: 01-18-2004 00:08 »

I used to really like Family Guy, but then after I got the boxed set I realized that it's actually quite gay.
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #5 on: 01-18-2004 00:12 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2004 00:12 »

obvious? maybe you meant one dimensional but I don't think that's true they were at least two.(pun intended)While I agree that FG wasn't as deep as futurama it didn't need to be. Everything can't be as varied and subtle as fine wine every once in a while you need some hard lemonade as well. 
Coop

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« Reply #6 on: 01-18-2004 01:34 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2004 01:34 »

Yeah, but as I have said in other threads, it was too pointless to make sense like Futurama. And it made too much sense to be funny like Aquateen Hunger Force(those two only being examples of course). Family Guy was just lost somewhere in between the two different kinds of humor, it's like it was trying to make sense but didn't want to take itself seriously.
Jordan K

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« Reply #7 on: 01-18-2004 01:54 »

They had too many scenes that had nothing to do with the plot or the episode in general. The kind of stuff that you think is hilarious when you're younger but now you kind of wonder "God, I'm sick of seeing some stupid joke go on for three minutes".
Coop

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« Reply #8 on: 01-18-2004 02:04 »

Exactly. That was the shows main flaw.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #9 on: 01-18-2004 06:24 »

Lowest Common Denominator. Same reason you still have those awful gameshows and reality TV shows being aired, series after series.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #10 on: 01-18-2004 06:33 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2004 06:33 »

 
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Originally posted by Bushmeister:
Lowest Common Denominator. Same reason you still have those awful gameshows and reality TV shows being aired, series after series.

Agreed, there's your answer.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #11 on: 01-18-2004 16:28 »

no its not really lowest common denominator
there are dumb and clever jokes.
and futurama had dumb Lowest common denominator jokes as well.
but basically the gag rate is just so fast. which is good because sometimes you dont care about the story and what happens to the characters.
but I found rewatching them that it really loses it as a lot of the humour is brilliantly crazy and random and unexpected stuff but obviously rewatching it, it kind of loses the humour there are occasional things you dont pick up on though.
SwanMan3000

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« Reply #12 on: 01-18-2004 16:44 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 00:00 by edeltraut »

family guy is funny but all the episodes are too simalar in my opinion and the stories arnt really anywhere near good. I still like the show and have all the box sets but when i sit down to watch on i never think of one particular episode like one big blur whereas Futurama has definite episodes each very different, Futurama's characters are lovable and the stories are excellent sometimes although i dont always laugh at the jokes that ive seen over and over again they fill me with a warm glow. Family Guy never did that i like family guy but if my box sets melted for some reason i wouldnt really care.
aslate

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« Reply #13 on: 01-18-2004 17:39 »

Futurama Season 4 is still in the UK charts drifting in the top 50 last time i looked. When i went to HMV at Christmas they had a stack of Futurama Season 1 DVDs up to your waist several layers thick by the entrance to the DVD section.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #14 on: 01-18-2004 17:45 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 00:00 »

Along with things that others said, remember also that Family Guy was off the air when the first dvd set came out.  People are more tempted to buy something they can't get on tv anyway, and FG was absolutely nowhere on tv at the time (although the Adult Swim run started a few days after Volume One came out, but still some people could conceivably not have known it was coming to reruns yet).  Futurama, when Volume One came out in the US, had already been running on Adult Swim for a few months and was even still running on Fox, albeit with Fox's horrible scheduling.
bender+fry

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« Reply #15 on: 01-18-2004 19:35 »

Family Guys jokes are all to similar in my opinion. They always say something like remember the time when? and go back to the past. I can't stand to watch an episode of family guy more than twice because the poor story really shows when the jokes aren't funny anymore. Futurama, on the other hand, can be watched as many times as you want and the story will make the episode good long after the jokes get dull from hearing them too many times.
Jordan K

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« Reply #16 on: 01-18-2004 19:56 »

I think a good series like Futurama should only be cancelled after it starts getting dull and the writers can't come up with any original stories.  I fear for The Simpsons because of this..  frown
Rocketboy

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« Reply #17 on: 01-18-2004 20:10 »

Family Guy is selling good because everyone has the Futurama DVDs
bankrupt

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« Reply #18 on: 01-18-2004 20:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Jordan K:
I think a good series like Futurama should only be cancelled after it starts getting dull and the writers can't come up with any original stories.  I fear for The Simpsons because of this..   frown

Unfortunately, TV doesn't work like that today.  If a show is not an instant hit it gets yanked.  This is especially true on a station like fox that has so much other drivel to put on.  I wonder if the Simpsons was entering the market today (imagine some other non-Groening show had started the prime time animation craze) if it would be treated similar to Futurama.  The Simpsons had an arc sort of like Futurama where it really started to get good in the third season.  I don't think classic Simpsons would have fared much better in todays climate of reality shows, etc.
HawkingHole4001

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« Reply #19 on: 01-18-2004 22:27 »

11 yearolds love Family Guy.
Why?
They love to swear and curse.
They watch the show on CN, Buy the DVD's, make websites, ect.
BTW- I think I have a topic about favorite Family Guy Episode. looks like that topic might get ressurected for the second  time  big grin
bender+fry

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« Reply #20 on: 01-18-2004 22:31 »

yeah, kids love family guy because it's so quotable. Everybody else hates it for what it is
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #21 on: 01-19-2004 00:12 »

and I still say you're all being too hard on a show that is very funny.
Coop

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« Reply #22 on: 01-19-2004 00:16 »

What do you expect? It's a show that often gets more credit than Futurama. It's very overrated.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #23 on: 01-19-2004 00:21 »

Family Guy makes fun of the pop culture, and I for one, will admit to not understanding half of the jokes partly because it refers to some things from before I was born. Anyways, it's more explicit than Futurama.

Half the jokes in Futurama are extremely subtle and math or science-related. I only got them after hearing them explained in the audio commentaries. It's for the intellectual or educated portion of the population.
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #24 on: 01-19-2004 00:28 »

I don't know I gues the whole point I'm trying to make here is I HATE SAUERKRUAT!!! but sierously what I'm saying is just because your intelligent dosn't mean u can't laugh at slighty less than intelligent jokes.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #25 on: 01-19-2004 00:42 »

Curses and swearing is just the surface of Family Guy. Anyways, I'm still laughing at that Breakfast Club joke.

What can I say, I heart Family Guy.
evan

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« Reply #26 on: 01-19-2004 01:40 »

IMO, "Family Guy" makes jokes that everyone already thought of. When you deconstruct a Family Guy episode, you've pretty much seen/heard all the jokes before. In Eminem's words, Family Guy actually says in public the jokes you whisper in private. I think that leads to its success. Also, as has been mentioned, the constant references to 70s/80s trash culture appeals to Gen X/this current generation. Therefore, viewers already have a connection of "oh yeah, that's where it's coming from!"
luvnpeese

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« Reply #27 on: 01-19-2004 02:24 »

Except the young'n's like me; I don't get those jokes.
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #28 on: 01-19-2004 11:32 »

I think that Family Guy's overrated as well.  I've watched a few episodes on CN before and tried to make myself like it, but I couldn't, and quite watching it after a few episodes.  I didn't like it because, as previously mentioned here, if you see one episode, you've seen them all.

As another comparison, South Park uses lots of low-brow humor, but the show really appeals to me.  I think it just depends on how the low-brow humor is handled:  South Park has gross stuff to parody gross stuff (well, usually), and Family Guy is gross just to be gross, and not to prove a point like South Park.
mikey

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« Reply #29 on: 01-19-2004 11:34 »

Family guy is funny. People do like to laugh. Hence the buying.
bankrupt

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« Reply #30 on: 01-19-2004 12:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Evil Fox Exec:
I think that Family Guy's overrated as well.  I've watched a few episodes on CN before and tried to make myself like it, but I couldn't, and quite watching it after a few episodes.  I didn't like it because, as previously mentioned here, if you see one episode, you've seen them all.


I too tried reevaluating my opinion of Family Guy recently by tuning into it on CN.  I came to the same conclusion as when I first saw the show on fox: I don't like the characters, the animation, or the writing.  Why so many people buy the DVDs I don't know, but I'll never buy them.  At the same time I'm happy for it's fans since it looks like they'll get some fresh episodes.

~FazeShift~

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« Reply #31 on: 01-19-2004 16:05 »

 
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Originally posted by mikey:
Family guy is funny. People do like to laugh. Hence the buying.
Always with the buying and laughing, OY!!

All shows have references to other shows, even our beloved Futurama.
Family Guy just steers clear of the more geeky, sciency and nerdy references.
It does have clever jokes and is full of abstract humour which some people, believe it or not, like. *gasp*

People who are upset about it selling better than Futurama: get a grip and get over it.
Jeremy

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« Reply #32 on: 01-20-2004 04:32 »

God, I love that Irish man. He speaks the truth.
Just blame Rupert Murdoch, you uber-dorks.
mikey

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« Reply #33 on: 01-20-2004 04:35 »

Oh yeah thats blame the wealthy australian. How typical. Tall poppy syndrome.
bender+fry

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« Reply #34 on: 01-20-2004 04:42 »

family guy is probably selling so well because its like a dirtier clone of the simpsons
a worse clone of course smile
moonbus69

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« Reply #35 on: 01-20-2004 05:03 »

Family Guy is a damn funny series, but I doubt I will buy the dvd sets... Its like a good dirty joke - you laugh real hard, but 5 minutes later you've forgotten most of it (whereas, IMO  Futurama gets even better with time - like a fine wine).
bender+fry

Professor
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« Reply #36 on: 01-20-2004 05:44 »

like I said earlier, family guy has no story, but in futurama, you start to notice the small details that they put in for you
Xmpel

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« Reply #37 on: 01-20-2004 09:38 »

 
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Originally posted by HawkingHole4001:
11 15 year olds love Family Guy.

Everyone loves Family Guy. It's a damn funny series that says what you want them to say but in a way you really don't expect it.
Gleno

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« Reply #38 on: 01-20-2004 10:37 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
 
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Originally posted by mikey:
Family guy is funny. People do like to laugh. Hence the buying.
Always with the buying and laughing, OY!!

All shows have references to other shows, even our beloved Futurama.
Family Guy just steers clear of the more geeky, sciency and nerdy references.
It does have clever jokes and is full of abstract humour which some people, believe it or not, like. *gasp*

People who are upset about it selling better than Futurama: get a grip and get over it.

This is the only post needed for this thread....Mods please delete the rest and have a nice day.... big grin

Family Guy is bloody hilarious, so is Futurama....both in different ways, both appealing to different people....'nuff said....

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Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #39 on: 01-20-2004 13:55 »

Family guy is a great show with more Kiss apperances than any other animated shows....2!

Though I would'nt say it was as good as Futurama and if you want lowest common denominator watch most uk childrens TV *groan*   no no

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