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PEE Poll: Best "crazy" cartoon
The Simpsons   -3 (12%)
Family Guy   -6 (24%)
South Park   -10 (40%)
Futurama   -6 (24%)
Total Voters: 25

Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #40 on: 12-29-2003 18:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
 Seriously, did these people WATCH Amazon Women in the Mood, Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles, or the Sting?  Some of the craziest half-hours in television.

 Don't forget A Bicyclops Built For Two. Any show that can combine a spot-on virtual internet sequence, a one-eyed alien discovering her past in ancient ruins, a Married With Children parody and a shape-shifting cockroach who enjoys polygamy with multiple races into one fluid whole has to be stark raving nuts.  big grin

SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #41 on: 12-29-2003 19:03 »
« Last Edit on: 12-29-2003 19:03 »

i won't vote, as classics such as ren & stimpy, freakazoid, southpark or puni puni poemi aren't in the poll.
i have yet to get my hands on aqua teen hunger force and invader zim, but i heard they're great...

hail seitan

Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #42 on: 12-29-2003 19:08 »

Oh yeah, I forgot about the ATHF. My vote goes to them, despite their absence from the poll.  smile
winna

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« Reply #43 on: 12-29-2003 19:42 »

 
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:

i have yet to get my hands on aqua teen hunger force and invader zim, but i heard they're great...


Oh but they are.... and zim is downright disturbing sometimes   flirt
nagrub

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« Reply #44 on: 01-04-2004 16:22 »

votes futurama, *coughs to death*
i agree, invader zim, is beyond crazy through insantity and back to 'normal' again. It's that good. yes, its crazy, does that defy logic?
'COME ,GRRR!'
'Doom, doom doom doom doom DOOM! doom doom doom dooooooOOOOOOm' need i say more?
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« Reply #45 on: 01-04-2004 16:30 »

Freakazoid.
"Brick!!"

Bring it back, some TV station!!
User_names_suck
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« Reply #46 on: 01-04-2004 19:15 »

It seems ironic to me that people here hate simpsons wackiness when they love futurama, and people complained about the plots being about "what crazy adventure will homer get the family into this week", when the earlier futurama's were
"what crazy adventures will fry get the gang into this week" I know its justified because futuramas sci fi but still.

I went for simpsons thinking of 1-8 although it was a very tough decison and so I went for something that wouldn't the score much, at least at the time
El Zilcho

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« Reply #47 on: 01-04-2004 19:38 »

@u_n_s: There's a drop-off in plausability from Futurama to Simpsons; a garbage ball threatening the planet 1000 years from now makes more sense than Homer buying a tennis court instead of securing a grave for his father.

...That was a spectacular sentence.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #48 on: 01-04-2004 19:44 »

Yeah, Futurama being sci-fi allows it to do more of the surreal stuff.

He has a point though, at least about the "what wacky adventure will they get into next" thing.  In particular there's some "jerkass Bender" episodes like "A Pharaoh to Remember" that could be compared to some of the jerkass Homer crazy adventures.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #49 on: 01-04-2004 20:14 »

 
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Originally posted by El Zilcho:
@u_n_s: There's a drop-off in plausability from Futurama to Simpsons; a garbage ball threatening the planet 1000 years from now makes more sense than Homer buying a tennis court instead of securing a grave for his father.

...That was a spectacular sentence.

I disagree, well really I'm just saying I had no problem with that bit of simpsons
El Zilcho

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« Reply #50 on: 01-04-2004 20:45 »
« Last Edit on: 01-04-2004 20:45 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
 I disagree, well really I'm just saying I had no problem with that bit of simpsons

My point was that a lot of Futurama eps are based on "people in general are stupid, so what problems would we cause in the future?", whereas Simpsons is more like "Maggie gets a bunny. Bunny sounds like money. The Simpsons inherit a lot of money." There was no logic behind Homer getting a tennis court other than someone saying the words "tennis court", and that's the problem I have with that part.

 
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Originally posted by DoTheBartman:
In particular there's some "jerkass Bender" episodes like "A Pharaoh to Remember" that could be compared to some of the jerkass Homer crazy adventures.

And those were the worst rated eps of the series (again in general). Those types of eps aren't nearly as frequent in Futurama as they are in Simpsons.

How do you toast a grapefruit?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #51 on: 01-04-2004 22:13 »

Well, certain Futurama plots don't really have any coherency to them either (Three Hundred Big Boys for instance.  Or Obsolutely Fabulous.  Bender doesn't want an upgrade...fine..but why is he on some technology free island?)  But yeah, there aren't as many of those on Futurama neccasarily.

I'd say its a stretch to call a lot of Futurama episodes, at least in season one and two, truly "satirical" though.  Most of the first two seasons were basically gag vehicles.  They were far better gag vehicles then The Simpsons' Scully era, but they were still gag vehicles.
mazaite

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« Reply #52 on: 01-05-2004 00:40 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
I'd say its a stretch to call a lot of Futurama episodes, at least in season one and two, truly "satirical" though.  Most of the first two seasons were basically gag vehicles.  They were far better gag vehicles then The Simpsons' Scully era, but they were still gag vehicles.

I think you got a little flibbered.

It's more in the later half of Futurama that it had more and more Joke Vehicle episodes.


Michael Zaite
DotheBartman

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« Reply #53 on: 01-05-2004 01:05 »

Nah, seasons three and four just have BETTER gag vehicles.

Here's a list of some 3ACV and 4ACV episodes that have some sort of satirical or emotional depth to them (some working better then others in those respects):

Parasites Lost
Luck of the Fryrish
Bird-Bots of Ice-Catraz
Time Keeps on Slippin'
Godfellas
Leela's Homeworld
Jurassic Bark
Crimes of the Hot
Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television
The Sting
Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings

That's not even all of them, mind you.
Now let's look at seasons one and two....

The Series Has Landed (for the end)
Problem with Popplers
A Head in the Polls

Oh, and X-Mas Story and A Flight to Remember both try (but IMO fail) to provide some genuine emotion.

But really, that's it.  Seasons one and two were almost completely gag-centric seasons.  Not entirely a bad thing, although the show was much better for its changes in three and four.
mazaite

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« Reply #54 on: 01-05-2004 14:10 »

this list is all wrong. You're one of THEM arn't you?

Them being any other Futurama fan since no two fans seem to be able to find the same things good about the show.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #55 on: 01-05-2004 15:34 »

I actually think that's a good thing about Futurama though, in that it has a wide variety of episode styles, almost as though there's something for everyone in it's 72 episode library.
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« Reply #56 on: 01-05-2004 16:36 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2004 16:36 »

Sorry editing error read the next post
User_names_suck
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« Reply #57 on: 01-05-2004 16:37 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Yeah, Futurama being sci-fi allows it to do more of the surreal stuff.

He has a point though, at least about the "what wacky adventure will they get into next" thing.  In particular there's some "jerkass Bender" episodes like "A Pharaoh to Remember" that could be compared to some of the jerkass Homer crazy adventures.

I was thinkng more along the lines of
 'fry gets them into trouble on the moon, Fry gets them into troble by drinking an alien leader, fry gets the gang into danger in the slurm factory, Fry's insitence on buying anchovies gets him into trouble.
Oh and fry's stupidity in 1999 interrupts a transmission angering aliens who attack Earth

Oh and there's jerkass bender in fear of a bot planet also. and to my mind jurrasic bark  and thats a highly rated episode
I didn't think it was a problem in obsoletley faboulous as it was fear that provoked his actions


This always botherd me more on futurama than it did on simpsons
DotheBartman

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« Reply #58 on: 01-05-2004 18:50 »

Again good points.  Another one of the reasons season one isn't my favorite (although I do still really like it) is certainly the so many episodes were basically about "that idiot Fry gets the crew into trouble, chase/ridiculous gag-row ensues".
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #59 on: 01-05-2004 19:28 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2004 19:28 »

I actually thought Fear Of A Bot Planet was a pretty satirical episode, though more metaphorically. There's a lot of references in there to the likes of Hitler's regime or the Cold War, with blind hatred inspired by propaganda campaigns, robot elders running things from behind the scenes, scapegoating of other races...you've even got Bender up there on stage as Hitler. And besides that, there's Bender's ranting about robots not being allowed to play on the Blernsball field and instead being made to do the 'crapwork'. Racial commentary, perhaps, with the robot race substituting for the black community?

 Perhaps my argument isn't flawless but I couldn't help but notice your list tended only to cover the most obvious examples, so I felt the need to chip in.
Jish

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« Reply #60 on: 01-05-2004 19:29 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2004 19:29 »

I don't really consider Homestar Runner a cartoon, its's just a website. One of my favorite websites ever, but still a website. Crazy cartoons IMO include the ones on the poll, plus all of these...

Freakazoid,
NOT Animaniacs (too educational and annoying),
Zim,
Rocko,
Ren & Stimpy (although I hate it),
Angry Beavers,
Spongebob,
Fairly Odd Parents,
to an extent Two Stupid Dogs,
CARTOON PLANET (anyone remember that show? it was awesome!),
all Williams Street shows (Brak, Space Ghost, Sealab, Aqua Teen, Harvey Birdman),
and pretty much all old Warner Bros. stuff. Classic insanity.
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #61 on: 01-05-2004 21:48 »
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FLCL is the craziest animated series (hah, swerves around my refusal to call FLCL a cartoon!) out there, no competition except for other anime series that are just as insane...and any (especially chuck jones') looney tunes eps...

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Gorky

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« Reply #62 on: 01-30-2004 17:09 »

First of all, Futurama isn't really 'crazy' IMO. It just has a sci-fi setting and mixes in the absurdities of the genre with emotion and character development.

For the sake of this poll's topic, my list is:

1. TIE)Futurama- (if you're gonna call it crazy, fine. But it's still the best)

1. TIE)The Simpsons (whole series)- If it's considered crazy, fine. It's still hilarious.

2.)Family Guy-it's funny, but no competition for the first two on this list

I know I didn't put South Park up there, but that's because I usually don't watch it and really can't critique it.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #63 on: 01-30-2004 20:40 »

In one episode, due to a time stasis field explosion, the explosion is a glowing green ball that was effected by the time modification, and is actually exploding really REALLY slowly. So, ZIM decides to take it to the cess pool and drown it. And then, GIR jumps up and shoves a dirty puppy in ZIM's face saying, "Look what I found! He smells REAL bad!"
Now if that isn't crazy, I don't know what is. This poll is screwed.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #64 on: 02-01-2004 16:32 »

hmm I've never watched it I presume Most of these cartoons are aimed at a younger audience than the poll choices. I think the point was for people to vote for there favourite out of the four
leelaholic

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« Reply #65 on: 02-01-2004 17:28 »

Thank you, user name. That's EXACTLY what I meant this poll for. I wish people would just talk about these four and not bitch about what's "wrong" with it.
OC_James

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« Reply #66 on: 02-01-2004 17:44 »
« Last Edit on: 02-01-2004 17:44 »

Well you could've included an "other" option because if this thread is just meant for talking about those four cartoons, it's pointless. We already have another thread where those four cartoons are compared (Best Cartoon isn't it?) and each one of those cartoons have their own individual thread to talk about them in.
Don't start a poll if you're not ready to deal with the fact that people may not agree with what your ideas of something are. How exactly is The Simpsons crazy? I use to watched the Simpsons all the time and I think it's not "crazy" at all, it's as normal (not as bad though) as a sitcom in my opinion. See, that's an opinion. This is a poll. The two go hand in hand.
Invader Zim = Best Crazy Cartoon

And next time add an "other" option
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #67 on: 02-01-2004 23:43 »
« Last Edit on: 02-01-2004 23:43 »

what slaytanic said.

DAMN I'm STILL not a professor.
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