Justice League

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Originally posted by Kryten:
 Also, Dr. Hugo Strange had a cameo. Wonder why they'd need a psychologist in their inner circle...

Let's see, they created a genetically engineered monster, and they conditioned it to hate Superman.  Oh, and they tried to nuke an entire island full of civilians just to get Superman and Doomsday.

I'd say these guys are in need of some serious psychological help.  I don't think that Hugo Strange is the guy that I'd pick for the job, though.

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What your saying you wouldn't nuke an entire island and sacrific innocent lives just to kill two people?

Well personal opinions aside I liked this episode, especially the rolling around in the lava. I wish I could freaking do that. Also I would vote for Luther, he seems to be an honest looking guy.

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I finally sat my ass down and watched JLU last night because I keep hearing how good it is and how I should watchit from everybody, and considering Batman: TAS, I figured "what the hell"...I was impressed. It was very good in everything - except the integration of the 3D with the 2D animation....if Futurama got that to work, these guys can. However, I'll be watching it again next week.

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"The Doomsday Sanction" was one of the best episodes since the show became the JLU. It made me miss all those two part, hour-long episodes they did a few years ago, because this definately could have been stretched out a little more. I'm glad they called back a lot of episodes from the past, like the Justice Lords, etc.

Batman is teh roxxor, btw: "You don't get to laugh...not today." Awesome. He steals the show in every episode he's in.

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Originally posted by MrMoose:
What your saying you wouldn't nuke an entire island and sacrific innocent lives just to kill two people?

I'd know better than to nuke Superman.  That just pisses him off.

Speaking of which, why doesn't Captain Marvel ever appear on this show?

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This might be a really stupid question, but what does TAS stand for? 

As in Batman: TAS

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TAS stands for The Animated Series, as in Batman: The Animated Series and Superman: The Animated Series.

I found a couple of pages that identify some of the more obscure characters of the JLU cartoon:

Who's Who in the JLU, Part I
Who's Who in the JLU, Part II

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Cool thanks.

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Originally posted by David A:
Speaking of which, why doesn't Captain Marvel ever appear on this show?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Captain Marvel be a Marvel Comics character, and not a DC Comics character?

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Originally posted by RavenStar:
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Captain Marvel be a Marvel Comics character, and not a DC Comics character?

Well, there is a Marvel Comics character by that name (more than one in fact), but that's not who I meant.

I meant this guy.

Captain Marvel was originally a Fawcett Comics character back in the 40s.  DC bought the rights to Captain Marvel (and all associated characters) in 1972, and he's been a DC character ever since.

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Wasn't he renamed Shazam in order to prevent confusion like that? I know that's the word that causes him to gain his superpowers, but isn't that also his name now?

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Wasn't there a show in the 70s like that? (or 80s)

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Originally posted by evan:
Wasn't he renamed Shazam in order to prevent confusion like that? I know that's the word that causes him to gain his superpowers, but isn't that also his name now?

Nope.  His name is and always has been Captain Marvel.  Shazam is the name of the Egyptian wizard who gave Billy Batson the ability to transform himself into Captain Marvel (and also the magic word that causes the transformation).

Marvel Comics owns the trademark to the name "Captain Marvel" so DC can't use it for advertising, but he can still be called Captain Marvel in the comics, even though his comics are published under the title of Shazam.

 

Originally posted by Lrrr_2004:
Wasn't there a show in the 70s like that? (or 80s)

Yes.

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DA, that's what I must have been thinking of. I knew that DC used the term "Shazam!" to market him somehow because of the legal issues with Marvel, I just wasn't sure how.

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Well, I did some looking into it, and it seems that similar legal issues may be why we havent seen an animated version of Captain Marvel.  Apparently there were plans for him to appear on Superman, but the series ended before the animation rights could be secured.  It's still possible that he might show up in a future episode of JLU, though.

You can read about it here.
(Be sure to check out the proposed artwork showing what an animated Captain Marvel might look like.)

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*BUMP*

I finally got to see "Wake the Dead" on Saturday.  It was kind of a disappointment.  On several levels.  Meh.

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I saw "Clash" last night and they'll show it again tonight at 10:30. 

I like the Superman vs. Captain Marvel thing, but the fight scene wasn't that impressive since we are dealing with two super beings who smash through walls and not get hurt.  This episode made Superman look like an asshole.  Are they going to make Superman turn rogue?  Lex Luthor will be the next few episodes and I hear Superman will declare war on Cadmus.

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Having only seen "Doomsday Sanction," "Double Date," and "Clash," I'm kicking myself for not watching this show when it started...this is some of the best writing in a show ever, especially for one that's TVY7 rated...the one thing I keep noticing is some of the 3D still looks seriously out of place...I wish they'd integrate that part of the show with the 2D animation a bit better...

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I was looking forward to seeing Captain Marvel on JLU, and "The Clash" did not disappoint.  I love the fact that Captain Marvel used the same trick of causing the lightning to strike Superman as he used in Kingdom Come.  Of course, Superman defeated him the same way as well.

"Double Date" was also a good episode, although it seemed odd to have a Huntress episode without Batman.  I loved the stuff with Green Arrow and Black Canary.  They should use those two more often.

"Are we dead yet?"
"Not yet."
"Are we dead yet?"
"If we die, I promise I'll let you know."

 

Originally posted by RavenStar:
...the one thing I keep noticing is some of the 3D still looks seriously out of place...I wish they'd integrate that part of the show with the 2D animation a bit better...

Or leave it out altogether.  They never used the 3D stuff in the first two seasons.  That's something they added when when the show became JLU.  Frankly, the show looked better without it.

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Ok, Flashpoint was the BEST ep of JLU I've seen so far. It went from being sort of bland with a lot of dialogue to "Holy shit..." at the end.

Also, gotta love Ollie's "hyper-testosteroned Stormtroopers" line...

Seriously, that episode rocked. I can't fucking wait to see how they resolve this...

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I just saw "Epilogue" and my question is does this mark the series finale of Justice League?

I've heard rumors that this episode marks the finale of Justice League.  I've also heard that it just marks the final chapter for Batman Beyond, while Justice League will continue with another season.

Can someone please shed some light on this?

#100   

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I hope JL isn't over, it's starting to get good again.

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No, there's gonna be a third season of JLU, but I think this season, especially "Epilogue," was made as a just-in-case if season 3 hadn't been greenlit...

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Raven, how did you not know who Captain Marvel is?  What kind of DC fan are you?

Oh, Epilogue was great. I never really got into Batman Beyond, but I loved the references. No idea who the other future people were, 'cept for Ink. Oh, and all out hooray for showing more of Star Spangled Kid (or Stargirl...she might be Stargirl)They showed Hawkgirl again...and I still am continuity confused. I know she's from Thanagar, but Bats calls her Chay-ara, not Sheera. But Courtney is SSG when it's KENDRA....oy. Paul Dini is usually good about crap like this.

I'm DYING for the series so far to rerun, so I can see all the ones I've missed-mostly "Double Date". I love Black Canary and GA, and they've only sort of made them a couple instead of their full out relationship (not like Kevin Smith's version, with the many MANY oral sex references).

And I wish the show was on at a time I was not at work.

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There needs to be much more of Question in s3...I love that character now, thanks to the show.

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JLU Season 3 news:  http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=5491

 

Episode titles for four new episodes of Justice League Unlimited, set to air in September, have been released.

The episodes "We are Legion" and "Shadow of the Hawk" will air on September 17th, while "Chaos At the Earth's Core" and "To Another Shore" will air on September 24th. These episodes will air back to back from 10pm - 11pm (ET).

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I missed the second half of the "second" season of JLU. Right now, I'm downloading in order to play catch-up.

Shaucker, if you're confused about all that Thanagarian stuff, you're head's going to explode when "We are Legion" premires.

Show spoiler

Because we're introduced to Carter Hall.

But Hawkgirl is Shayera Hol, the Thanagarian. They've established that in the "Starcrossed" movie.

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Originally posted by Shaucker:
Oh, Epilogue was great. I never really got into Batman Beyond, but I loved the references. No idea who the other future people were, 'cept for Ink. Oh, and all out hooray for showing more of Star Spangled Kid (or Stargirl...she might be Stargirl)

She's the Star Spangled Kid.  Her step-dad is Stripesy, former sidekick of the original, Golden Age Star Spangled Kid.

 

They showed Hawkgirl again...and I still am continuity confused. I know she's from Thanagar, but Bats calls her Chay-ara, not Sheera.

There have been several different versions of Hawkman and Hawkgirl in the comics:

The original Golden Age Hawks were Carter Hall and Shiera Saunders.  They were humans from Earth, but they were the reincarnations of an Egyptian prince and his consort.

The Silver Age Hawks were Katar Hol and Shayera Hol.  They were police officers from the planet Thanagar.  They were also a married couple, which was unusual for superheroes at the time.

The post-Crisis Hawks were similar to the Silver Age ones, but they weren't married, so Hawkgirl's name was Shayera Thal.

The animated Hawkgirl seems to be based on the post-Crisis version, but her name is Shayera Hol, despite the fact that she's single and Hawkman doesn't seem to exist in the animated continuity.

 

I'm DYING for the series so far to rerun, so I can see all the ones I've missed-mostly "Double Date". I love Black Canary and GA, and they've only sort of made them a couple instead of their full out relationship (not like Kevin Smith's version, with the many MANY oral sex references).

I haven't read any of the Kevin Smith stuff, but the way that Green Arrow and Black Canary are portrayed on JLU reminds me of the old Green Lantern/Green Arrow "Hard Travelling Heroes" stories.  It's just too bad that Hal isn't around in the animated continuity.

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Wizard magazine named this the best cartoon on the air right now in their October issue. Go, team I suppose. 

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Originally posted by Shaucker:
I'm DYING for the series so far to rerun, so I can see all the ones I've missed-mostly "Double Date".

They are showing the first season of Justice League on Fridays at 2am. I wish it was on earlier and more often, but i'll take what I can get.

I miss the good old days when it was on weekdays from 10 to 11pm.

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Yeah, I missed the Saturday night repeats too. Sadly, we have Inuyasha in that timeslot now.

I finally saw five of the episodes I missed: "Clash," "Question Authority," "Flashpoint," "Panic in the Sky," and "Divided We Fall." All of them were freakin' awesome. I can't go into detailed reviews right now, but it really gives me hope for the rest of the season. I'm surprised how they made callbacks back to the 1st season in a "kids' show." I wonder how the 5th season can top this.

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Originally posted by evan:
Yeah, I missed the Saturday night repeats too. Sadly, we have Inuyasha in that timeslot now.

What the hell are you talking about?  Justice League has never been shown in that timeslot.

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What time would that be?

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Originally posted by Roy Bluth:
What time would that be?

I think that InuYasha is currently on at 11:30 p.m. on Saturday nights (and again at 2:30 a.m.).  I'm not sure when these "Saturday night repeats" that evan mentioned were shown, but considering that InuYasha has only ever been shown during the [Adult Swim] programming block, and that Justice League has never been shown during [Adult Swim], there's no possible way that one show could have taken the other's timeslot.

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Yeah, I see what you mean.

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from this recent Dwane McDuffie interview:

 

Season Five (JLU Season 3, for those confused - RS) of DC's big super-hero show harkens back to the classic "Super Friends" show, as a Legion of Dooms supervillain team will debut this fall, with Grodd and Luthor providing some of the impetus for this group. "It's a super-sized Legion to match the super-sized League. You'll see almost every foe that the league has ever faced, plus a number of classic DC villains who have never had the animated treatment. 'Super Friends' is an inspiration, but the tone of the show is pure 'Justice League Unlimited.'"

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Originally posted by David A:
 I think that InuYasha is currently on at 11:30 p.m. on Saturday nights (and again at 2:30 a.m.).  I'm not sure when these "Saturday night repeats" that evan mentioned were shown, but considering that InuYasha has only ever been shown during the [Adult Swim] programming block, and that Justice League has never been shown during [Adult Swim], there's no possible way that one show could have taken the other's timeslot.

I'm, of course, speaking pre-Adult Swim Saturday nights. Back before AS took over the entire nighttime programming, CN showed the first two seasons of the Justice League at like 10 or 11 pm.

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Originally posted by evan:
 I'm, of course, speaking pre-Adult Swim Saturday nights. Back before AS took over the entire nighttime programming, CN showed the first two seasons of the Justice League at like 10 or 11 pm.

[Adult Swim] has been on Saturday nights since long before CN began showing Justice League.  Justice League might have been on at 10:00 or 10:30, but it wasn't on after 11:00.  [Adult Swim] didn't steal your timeslot.

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Actually, for about a year, Saturday Night's Adult Swim was taken off and replaced with a block of action cartoons.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
Actually, for about a year, Saturday Night's Adult Swim was taken off and replaced with a block of action cartoons.

Ah.  I must have blocked out any memories I had of such a bleak time.

Anyway, I think that CN shows repeats of Justice League on Sunday nights.  At least they used to, because that's when I saw most of this season's episodes.