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Mr. Potter
Professor
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TV-wise, I thought the nominations were a little strange. Friends only got one nom. No Alias. Not too much love for The Shield. Three Sex and the City nominees in Best Supporting Actress (too much). It's going to be difficult to predict.
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BumbleBeeTheta
Starship Captain
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What is it about films with Nicole Kidman that makes people really like them? I haven't seen Cold Mountain, but if the trailer is any indication, it's a sappy sack of crap... "When I held you and pulled you to me, it was like I was holding a bag of diamonds." How on earth did Jude Law say that with a straight face? I think the logical alternative to seeing the movie is just to read the book. On the other end of the spectrum...Yay! Lost in Translation, Big Fish and Return of the King got nominations! Finally, quality films get recognition!
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Action Jacktion
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I saw that neither Matrix sequel made it as a finalist for the Visual Effects Oscar. Okay, so they didn't do as well as everyone thought, but that shouldn't be taken into consideration when you're just thinking about effects. I think that at least Revolutions should have been there instead of Hulk or X2, both of which are finalists.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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the problem with the matrix sequels is that no one at least tried to understand it at all - I think I was like the few who actually did. i like movies that make you actually have to think about something involving the plot instead of having everything spelled out for you on the screen. In my opinion, the wachowskis are pure geniuses. It's just everyone heard the confusing lines from morpheus and the oracle and just went "what?" and never actually tried to THINK about what they meant. End of rant, it's christmas eve.
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Mr. Potter
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I hate the Matrix, and I don't consider the Wachowskis geniuses, at all. But that's our different opinions. No need to argue. Merry Christmas.
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Mr. Potter
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot: I can't wait for the Oscar nominees announcements, just to see if Bubba Ho-Tep is nominated in any category. No doubt "Elephant" will be, though.
Here are the nominees for the Online Film Critics Awards 11 Noms for The Return of the King 10 for Kill Bill And Bubba Ho Tep got its first nomination of the season (Best Adapted Screenplay)
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evan
Urban Legend
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« Reply #58 on: 01-09-2004 23:53 »
« Last Edit on: 01-09-2004 23:53 »
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spacepilot3000
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Originally posted by evan: Ah, wait...are you referring to all those scenes in which it was obvious Neo was CGI? I'm sorry, I just don't find the effects in Reloaded or Revolutions to be all that, well, revolutionary. In fact, they're pretty bland and uninspiring. RotK and X-Men 2, just off the top of my head, had better effects. I'm sure there are plenty of other movies that had better visual effects than the Matrix, but I'm too lazy to name them all. Oh hell no. ROTK had the most obvious effects ever. Like when Legolas took down the big ass elephant, not once did I think that was a real scene. And In X2, They barely made an apperance. The effects in the Matrix movies were of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within quality.
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Mr. Potter
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Sequels only get nominated to Vissual Effects Oscars when they bring something new to the series,when they innovate and improve upon the original. This branch of the Academy didn't thought that the effects from Matrix Revolutions brought something new to the Matrix movies. They thought that it was basically the effects of the first movie multiplied by 100.
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evan
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
The effects in the Matrix movies were of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within quality. Um, you're just setting yourself up there. I'm not going to touch it, not having seen FF the Movie. But, from what I've been told, the effects are pretty weak. Oh, and there's more to visual effects than CGI. Just so you know. Personally, if a movie looks too CGI-ish, that breaks the reality of it. I always like when there's actual physical effects to the movie. (see, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Blade Runner, etc)
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LAN.gnome
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000: ROTK had the most obvious effects ever. Like when Legolas took down the big ass elephant, not once did I think that was a real scene. Neither did I. Know why? Because oliphaunts/mumakil don't exist! Who the hell knows what one would look like? People, on the other hand, do exist and I do know what they look like. And the people-effects of Matrix 2 & 3 didn't match up with reality for me.
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evan
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000: Who cares what people told you. See the damn thing for yourself!
You know what? Nevermind, screw this. There's no point arguing. You have your opinion, I have mine. You hate The Matrix sequels, I LOVE the Matrix sequels. End of story. I'm talking about effects, not plot. I agree with LAN here: when you make CGI people, it's easier for them to look pretty crappy. Never, in the trailers for FF, did I think I was watching real people acting. Whereas with LotR, I could visualize real people behind the Orc makeup. There's a disturbing trend in movies to make everything CGI, even stuff that doesn't need to be. Oh, and I didn't "hate" Reloaded. I thought it was alright, and even defended it quite a bit (on this board and in real life.)
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Mr. Potter
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And this are the winners of this year's Critic's Choice Awards:
BEST PICTURE: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
BEST ACTOR: Sean Penn - Mystic River
BEST ACTRESS: Charlize Theron - Monster
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Tim Robbins - Mystic River
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Renée Zellweger - Cold Mountain
BEST ACTING ENSEMBLE: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
BEST DIRECTOR: Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
BEST SCREENPLAY: Jim Sheridan, Kirsten Sheridan, Naomi Sheridan - In America
BEST YOUNG ACTOR/ACTRESS: Keisha Castle-Hughes - Whale Rider
BEST ANIMATED FEATURE: Finding Nemo
BEST FAMILY FILM (LIVE ACTION): Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
BEST PICTURE MADE FOR TV: Angels in America
BEST DOCUMENTARY: Capturing the Friedmans
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: The Barbarian Invasions
BEST SONG: "A Mighty Wind", Christopher Guest, Michael McKean, Eugene Levy - A Mighty Wind
BEST COMPOSER: Howard Shore - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Clint Eastwood and Peter Weir also received special awards.
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Nefnar
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But of course, mylady. In the BFCA awards he received 80 votes, next to him (very far) is clint eastwood that received like 14. Too bad Peter wasn't at the awards to hit eastwood's face. Nah just kidding, eastwood is a great actor and *coughs* director *coughs*
As for best movie in the Oscars, I have hope in the RotK, as I've seen many of the possible movies that had been told as possible winners had gone out of reach of my preciousss
About actors and actresses I predict: Sean Penn for Mystic River, even though I didn't like him, in fact I didn't like the movie at all. I'd like Bill Murray (had received a lot of awards), for Lost in Transaltion, even though I haven't see the movie yet.
Best Actress: Charlize Theron, for Monster, she's getting a lot of positive reviews and awards, even though the movie wasn't very popular, I've heard her acting was marvellous.
As for original screenplay, I put my faith yo Lost in Translation, (again) but In America has great chances too.
Adapted screenplay, to LotR, nothing for mytic river!!
And in summary to all that: Screw Cold Mountain!!
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Mr. Potter
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Yes, The Return of the King got 4 out of 4 yesterday, while other movies like Cold Mountain went 1 out of 7.
I really think this can be repeated at the Oscars but adding at least 5 technical wins, for a total of at least 8 wins.
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Sweetmelly
Bending Unit
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Almost 25 years ago there was a group of movie lovers which have an idea for a very special movie award. They have thought: Well there is the OSCAR for the best movies but why there is not such a thing for all the crap movies and so they have founded the Golden Raspberry Award (in shorten Razzies). This year we celebrate the 24th Golden Raspberry Awards and here are the nominees:
24th Annual Golden Raspberry (RAZZIE®) Award Nominations
WORST PICTURE
CAT-IN-THE HAT (Universal/Dreamworks/Imagine) CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE (Columbia) FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY (20th Century-Fox) GIGLI (Columbia/Revolution) THE REAL CANCUN (New Line)
WORST ACTOR
Ben Affleck / DAREDEVIL, GIGLI and PAYCHECK Cuba Gooding, Jr. / BOAT TRIP, FIGHTING TEMPTATIONS and RADIO Justin Guarini / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY Ashton Kutcher / CHEAPER by the DOZEN, JUST MARRIED and MY BOSS'S [sic] DAUGHTER Mike Myers / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
WORST ACTRESS
Drew Barrymore / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE and DUPLEX Cameron Diaz / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE Kelly Clarkson / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY Angelina Jolie / BEYOND BORDERS and LARA CROFT TOMB RADER: THE CRADLE of LIFE Jennifer Lopez / GIGLI
WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Anthony Anderson / KANGAROO JACK Alec Baldwin / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT Al Pacino / GIGLI Sylvester Stallone (Whose 5 Roles Could Fill This ENTIRE Category!) SPY KIDS 3-D: GAME OVER Christopher Walken / GIGLI and KANGAROO JACK
WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Lanie Kazan / GIGLI Demi Moore / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE Kelly Preston / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT Brittany Murphy / JUST MARRIED Tara Reid / MY BOSS'S [sic] DAUGHTER
WORST SCREEN COUPLE
Ben Affleck & Jennifer Lopez / GIGLI Eric Christian Olsen & Derek Richardson / DUMB AND DUMBERER Justin Guarini & Kelly Clarkson / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY Ashton Kutcher & EITHER Brittany Murphy (JUST MARRIED) or Tara Reid (MY BOSS's DAUGHTER) Mike Myers & EITHER Thing One OR Thing Two / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
WORST EXCUSE for an ACTUAL MOVIE (All Concept/No Content!) (New Category)
2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS CHARLIE'S ANGLES: FULL THROTTLE THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY THE REAL CANCUN
WORST REMAKE or SEQUEL
2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE DUMB & DUMBERER: WHEN HARRY MET LLOYD FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY (Remake of WHERE THE BOYS ARE ‘60 and WHERE THE BOYS ARE ‘84) TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE
WORST DIRECTOR
Martin Brest / GIGLI Robert Iscove / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY Mort Nathan / BOAT TRIP The Wachowski Brothers / Both MATRIX Sequels Bo Welch / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
WORST SCREENPLAY
THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT, Screenplay by Alec Berg, David Mandel and Jeff Schaffer CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE, Screenplay by John August and Cormac & Marianne Wibberley, “Story” by August DUMB AND DUMBERER, Screenplay by Robert Brener and Troy Miller, “Story” by Brener FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY, Written by Kim Fuller GIGLI, Written by Martin Brest
NOMINATIONS PER PICTURE:
GIGLI – 9 CAT-IN-THE-HAT – 8 FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY – 8 CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE - 7 BOAT TRIP, DUMB & DUMBERER, JUST MARRIED, MY BOSS’S [sic] DAUGHTER and THE REAL CANCUN – - 2 Each
“WINNERS” WILL BE ANNOUNCED SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 28 (that is traditionally one day before the OSCARS)
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Mr. Potter
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Gigli will sweep these awards, but From Justin to Kelly might surprise (yeah, right).
In other news, for those interested the Academy Award nominations will be announced live tomorrow morning at: 5:30 Pacific, 7:30 Central and 8:30 Eatern. E! will broadcast them live and possibly CNN and other networks (in America). In Europe, BBC World will broadcast it at 1:30 pm GMT.
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