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PEE Poll: Remakes, Good or Bad Idea?
I love remakes   -0 (0%)
They're ok   -3 (11.1%)
I hate them   -3 (11.1%)
It depends on the movie   -21 (77.8%)
Total Voters: 27

Mr. Potter

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« on: 11-29-2003 22:57 »

Are you ok with remakes? Or you think they are a waste of money when more original things can be done? You decide.
mikey

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« Reply #1 on: 11-29-2003 23:32 »

Im defienitly OK with it, But it definetly depends on the movie, and what spin they put on the original.
newhook_1

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« Reply #2 on: 11-29-2003 23:40 »

Only if it's a well done remake of a good movie.
Ben

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« Reply #3 on: 11-30-2003 00:58 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 00:58 »

Again, like most of the polls in this section, it depends on the individual project.

The thing which irritates me is the fact that a lot of teenagers today are being fed remakes of classic (and not-so-classic) film, TV and music, (which I have no real problem with) but have no idea that it's a remake.

But then again, the shallowness and cultural ignorance of generation Y often annoys me, so it's not like this is something new.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #4 on: 11-30-2003 01:42 »

::continues the trend::

As long as they actually manage to do a good job, yeah, it's a good idea.  For instance: Italian Job.

If they don't do a good job, however . . .
See: Planet of the Apes.

Hmm, when's Marky Mark going to star in an original movie?
VelourFog

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« Reply #5 on: 11-30-2003 01:48 »

i thought you never did SEE planet of the apes (remake). It was so awesome!11222

how about the remake of psycho? that was hell.

Nurdbot

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« Reply #6 on: 11-30-2003 02:11 »

Meh...

I'm indifferent towards them.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #7 on: 11-30-2003 02:42 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 02:42 »

Eh, I'm against all remakes of classic movies (espicially the horror & sci-fi genre). I suppose its alright if its the same writer/director as the original, though that is still destroying it.

As Ben said, most teenagers today are watching remakes, and they dont know they are (and proberly dont care, unless it has sex scenes & explosions).

Remakes run so many classics into film history obscurity.
David A

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« Reply #8 on: 11-30-2003 02:52 »

I think that remakes are okay in theory.  In actual practice however, most of them suck.

I do like those old Westerns that were remakes of Kurosawa's samurai films, though.
Zed 85

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« Reply #9 on: 11-30-2003 06:57 »

Can't remember if it was Kurosawa-san who complained to Sergio Leone after A Fistfull of Dollars, but there was a Japanese Saumuri-Genre director who said to him "Yes it was a very nice film, but it was my film!!!"  tongue

I'm usually sceptical of remakes. Though it depends. If they're too faithful, then they're not very original, and you'd have more reason just to prefer the original "you've grown to love" or something. If they're too different, for instance taking a British film and making it American, then it would probably leave many people annoyed, thinking it was sacreligious. Or something.
I really like A Fistfull of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven, but I've never seen the originals though.
The difference of AFOD was of course it was Americanising something, but it was done by Italians and filmed in Spain, which is an interesting twist. It worked quite well.
David A

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« Reply #10 on: 11-30-2003 07:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
I really like A Fistfull of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven, but I've never seen the originals though.

Too bad you weren't at my place last night, then.  One of the movie channels was showing The Seven Samurai followed by Yojimbo.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #11 on: 11-30-2003 08:44 »

There are very few remakes that were enjoyable to me. Hopefully Peter Jackson's third remake of King Kong will be one of them.
Tweek

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« Reply #12 on: 11-30-2003 09:41 »

It depends on the film, a remake that merely copies the original is pointless, films based on books where the director goes back to the book rather than the original film are likely to be better than an straight remake of the film.
zoidberg74

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« Reply #13 on: 11-30-2003 12:44 »

definitely depends on the movie. i have no problem when they remake a shitty movie in an attempt to improve upon it, but i can't stand it when they remake classics or movies that were fine on their own. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is such a classic, but they are going to do a remake. i'm not saying it will be bad...just unnecessary..i am also boycotting the upcoming Battlestar Galactica.
Coop

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« Reply #14 on: 11-30-2003 13:17 »

If a movie is done right the first time, why try to improve on it? Willy Wonka is a fine example.  up yours


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Teesside Inc

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« Reply #15 on: 11-30-2003 13:33 »

I Don't know.
Kryten

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« Reply #16 on: 11-30-2003 15:20 »

I don't think I've ever seen a single remake that was as good as the original.
El Zilcho

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« Reply #17 on: 11-30-2003 15:30 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Kryten:
I don't think I've ever seen a single remake that was as good as the original.
Mr. Deeds. I rest my case.
Kryten

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« Reply #18 on: 11-30-2003 15:34 »

...no...
Roboguy

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« Reply #19 on: 11-30-2003 15:37 »

Some of the remakes are O.K.

I've never seen one that was better than the original.

By and large, though, I think they're a waste of time and only show that Hollywood had no originality left.
El Zilcho

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« Reply #20 on: 11-30-2003 15:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
...no...
So, you've seen "Mr. Deeds Goes To Town" and you know it was better that the remake?

...Neither have I, I was just bluffing. But from what I've heard, the remake was better.
Zed 85

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« Reply #21 on: 11-30-2003 17:33 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 17:33 »

The Philadelphia Story/High Society is a case of one where they are just as highly refered as each other - the difference is that HS makes a musical as well. Though I always watch HS and miss Cary Grant, Katharine Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart., but I love the musical numbers...
It's tricky.

Things like Zorro and The Three Musketeers have been done again and again. My favourite Musketeer one must be the 70's one with Oliver Reed, Michael York et all. That was a comedy, but at the same time, stuck quite faithfully to the books. What I like about those films is
wu_konguk

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« Reply #22 on: 11-30-2003 18:02 »

All depends on the film and if they have an orginal spin on the idea.

Remakes better than the orginal....hhhmmm. Well technically The End of Evangelion was a remake of the final two episodes of the series does that count. However I am not looking foward to the live action remake.
Vampire Hunter D: bloodlust don't know if it wa really a remake but it was alot better than the orignal.
Andrea Huckstep

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« Reply #23 on: 11-30-2003 18:05 »

I once heard of a remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. When my mom heard about this she said that it's best if you leave the movie the way it was...
kip
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« Reply #24 on: 11-30-2003 18:17 »

Cannot wait for the Starksy and Hutch remake...
Prof. Wernstrum

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« Reply #25 on: 11-30-2003 19:12 »

It depends on the movie but in almost all cases the original is better. Cape Fear is the only instance where I have seen both films and actually prefer the remake. I decided to avoid watching The Italian Job remake partially because the decision to set it in LA didn't exctly fill me with confidence.

What really annoys me though is when classic computer games are updated for new consoles with loads of flashy graphics that mean you can't see what you're doing and a bunch of gameplay "improvements" that spoil the balance of the original game. Either re-release a bunch of old games in a collection or do a proper sequel, don't try to go down the middle and fail on both counts.
1 of the gang

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« Reply #26 on: 11-30-2003 19:37 »

I personally cant stand most remakes...just a waste of good $$$.
mazaite

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« Reply #27 on: 12-01-2003 01:39 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Andrea Huckstep:
I once heard of a remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. When my mom heard about this she said that it's best if you leave the movie the way it was...

Yea Tim Burton is going to do it. (Remember when Burton had cool ORIGINAL ideas?) Gene Wilder was Willy Wonka. end of story.

I don't think any good movie should be remade. Using a lesser known with your own twist maby ("Vanilla Sky" for instance) But in genneral just don't. especialy outstanding pieces like Planet of the apes, Willy Wonka, Psycho, and many more. Not only is it redundant but it's insulting to everyone who made the original well recived picture.

Michael Zaite
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #28 on: 12-01-2003 05:13 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Kryten:
I don't think I've ever seen a single remake that was as good as the original.

What about Ocean's 11? The original was hardly even a movie.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #29 on: 12-01-2003 19:07 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 19:07 »

   
Quote
Originally posted by Coop:
If a movie is done right the first time, why try to improve on it? Willy Wonka is a fine example.     up yours


I agree... I saw the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake the opening night.... not bad.... but I can accept remakes of cheese fest camp films like these but if you remake camp legends like the Evil Dead trilogy or priceless relics like the Alien quadrilogy....... death comes in the form of an ice-pick fired from thine potato gun of vengence.....

 
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Originally posted by *Lan.gnome*:
*What about Oceans 11? The original was hardly a movie.*

That may be true but you have to respect it simply because that one of the great ones was in it...... the late great, tottaly awesome.... Frank Sinatra.
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #30 on: 12-02-2003 18:39 »

I'll go with the majority. The sucess of a remake depends on the movie is remaking. If the first one was a cool original idea but the execution was flawed, then I'm ok with remakes. But if the original movie was already pretty good, I don't see what's the need to remake it.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #31 on: 12-02-2003 21:37 »

Money. Fame. Lack of talent.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #32 on: 12-02-2003 21:49 »

Don't forget lack of creativity or originality!
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #33 on: 12-02-2003 22:35 »

As long as no one decides to remake "citizen kane," at which point I will forever hate remakes, my decision is it depends on wether or not it's a good movie in the first place, and then wether or not it's a good remake.

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Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #34 on: 12-02-2003 22:40 »

 
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Originally posted by mazaite:
 Yea Tim Burton is going to do it. (Remember when Burton had cool ORIGINAL ideas?) Gene Wilder was Willy Wonka. end of story.

Damn straight. Why is he remaking it??? I hear there won't be any more songs, and that probably means no tunnel scene! NOOO!
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #35 on: 12-02-2003 22:41 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLastGreatDon:
That may be true but you have to respect it simply because that one of the great ones was in it...... the late great, tottaly awesome.... Frank Sinatra.

No, I don't have to respect it. I don't watch movies simply to revel in the greatness of the actors. I expect more -- like an actual plot.

Besides, Frank Sinatra is pretty terrible actor-wise.
mazaite

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« Reply #36 on: 12-03-2003 02:49 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2003 02:49 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
Besides, Frank Sinatra is pretty terrible actor-wise.

Especialy as drunk as he was in Ocean's 11. That was an example of a good remake.

Michael Zaite
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #37 on: 12-03-2003 03:22 »

Depends on the movie.

Best remake ever: Ransom
Just about even up: The Ring
Worst Remake ever: Planet of the Apes

Dammit, Burton, come up with another ingeionusly macabre script already!
eggsandwich

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« Reply #38 on: 12-06-2003 06:27 »
« Last Edit on: 12-06-2003 06:27 »

Fairly old news but, any fans of the film 'Scanners', read

Lets hope not    cry
Sweetmelly

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« Reply #39 on: 12-06-2003 10:46 »

I am really thrilled of the remake of 'Around the World in 80 Days'. Well it is a Jackie Chan movie but i hope there are more spectacular stunts than fight scenes.
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