star wars:episode2

[Reply #80 on:]

I wish I could bring myself to care about LOTR, but I don't. I have no interest in Tolkien.

[Reply #81 on:]

the book has it's lenghts sometimes....but it is the fantasy-book ever, all other storys are just rip-offs. the movie will be good...let's talk about it when it's time to.

[Reply #82 on:]

im fifth on the sarcasm meter. woohoo.

[Reply #83 on:]

The LOTR trailers have done nothing for me, despite nerds playing it in front of me and telling me how great it looks. Maybe they would be more entertaining if I had read the books.

And maybe I should read the books, but how can I, when not even the movie trailer can interest me?

[Reply #84 on:]

I too have no interest in LOTR. I will go and see the films though, because it's what you do.

[Reply #85 on:]

 

Originally posted by Marcet_Kroker:
level 1; Ha ha (not)
level 2: Uh huh.
level 3: Darthgy
Level 4: Chump.
Level 5: Rach_the_Tall
Level 6: Ben
Level 7: Kryten (there you go, happy)
Level 8: Me
Level 9: Nixorbo
Level 10: Now thats sarcastic! (ben as you are on this twice i shall move down Darthgy)

(Edited so Kryten can stop sulking.)   

what the fuck.......i used to be on level 4 and now?! i am really, really disappointed by you. 

[Reply #86 on:]

i haven't posted on this topic yet i don't think.  what's the list for?

[Reply #87 on:]

marcet came up with that sarcasm-list.
i don't know why exactly...maybe she can tell us what made her to make this list
*pokes marcet with a stick*

[Reply #88 on:]

 I'm not marcet, but an earlier post about a sarcasm meter.

[Reply #89 on:]

Judging by how much the first one sucked (I know, I hate everything), this one is not too promising. Plus the title doesen't exactly scream "Classic Film," does it?

[Reply #90 on:]

well, you'll never know...the name of this episode sounds not that good but maybe the movie will be better than episode 1.

[Reply #91 on:]

Excuse me, what title does actually scream "Classic Film".

[Reply #92 on:]

 

Originally posted by Ben:
Excuse me, what title does actually scream "Classic Film".

Citizen Kane.

Well, you asked.

[Reply #93 on:]

 

Originally posted by Kryten:
 Citizen Kane.

Well, you asked.

i just bought the cane from citizen cane.

[Reply #94 on:]

 

Originally posted by Ben:
Excuse me, what title does actually scream "Classic Film".

The hilarious upcoming parody from the Scary Movie team called "Classic Film".

[Reply #95 on:]

 

Originally posted by frozen fry:
 i just bought the cane from citizen cane.

Wait a minute... there's no cane in Citizen Kane!

[Reply #96 on:]

I sure hope this one IS better then the first one. I mean, come on. Besides, A New Hope was no "Gone With the Wind" or "American Beauty" in the first place. The Empire Strikes Back and especially Return of the Jedi are much better then the original. And that's where Lucas should have stopped. In My Opinion, of course. I am an old crank, after all...

[Reply #97 on:]

You're crazy...I thought Star Wars was way better than Return of the Jedi.

Jedi was great and all, but the whole ground battle with the Ewoks was weak. The space battle was good but I'm not a fan of rehashing the whole Death Star thing. Also Carrie Fisher annoys me in this one...I'm not sure why. She seems fine in the first two movies, but that whole scene where she talks about her mother in RotJ...ugh. I don't like that at all. Richard Marquand is my least favorite Star Wars director by far.

Don't get me wrong though, there's good stuff too. Jabba is sexy as shit and is way better than his CGI incarnations, and all the stuff with the Emperor is the best Star Wars stuff ever.

[Reply #98 on:]

I hated the Ewoks, I was rather hoping several of them would be killed. I certainly hope they are not in the next films, they lowered the quality of RotJ.

[Reply #99 on:]

ESB was the best. The ice planet, Lando, "Luke, I am your father", Yoda...

[Reply #100 on:]

... Ok, you got me. ESB is better. I Stand Corrected.

[Reply #101 on:]

ESB is the best part of the trilogy, no doubt about it. it was kinda dark and the open end was very good too. ROTJ was the weakest part of the trilogy. it was good until the whole ewok thing started. i mean it was like an omen for episode one. create something for the kiddys...little fluffy bears ...we will give them a cute name like the ewoks...and so on and on.....
i enjoyed the space fight, i always love those parts...starship against starship, tie-fighter against a-wing, b-wing, x-wing-fighter. palpatine was soooo evil!!!!
but man, was i dissapionted as darth vader took off his helmet (remember ESB...vader in his meditation-room, we saw him the first time without his helmet, just the back of his head...it looked terrible, wounded, scared...i expected the face of horror), he looked just like a common alcohol-addict.
the redone version of the first trilogy wasn't neccessary in my opinion, what was wrong with the original version? nothing!!!
so it was just moneymaking once again!!!
think of all those fans who bought the trilogy on video once again (not me).

[Reply #102 on:]

I never bothered even seeing the new versions of the original trilogy. ESB is probably the best, I liked the fact that is was dark. RotJ would have been much better without the Ewoks, as I said earlier, for a start it seemed stupid that they were destroying the imperial walkers but took no casualties themselves. Did anybody else see the Ewok spin off movie? that was terrible. I can't remember any details of it other than it sucked. The only thing worse than the Ewoks in Star Wars is Jar Jar Binks; I wish he could be given a nasty death near the start of the next episode.

[Reply #103 on:]

On a lighter note, If this summer's "blockbusters" were as bad as we say they are, what can we expect next year?? This reporter thinks bastardizatations of classic films to fit today's "tastes."
-Some Like it Blonde
-Dude! Where's my Maltese Falcon??
-Planet Of The Godfather

[Reply #104 on:]

 

Originally posted by Tweek:
I never bothered even seeing the new versions of the original trilogy.

Oh, you probably won't like me then, I've got all four versions of the original trilogy. I'll have five once they decide to bring out the DVD versions. 

 

Originally posted by Tweek:
The only thing worse than the Ewoks in Star Wars is Jar Jar Binks; I wish he could be given a nasty death near the start of the next episode.

I think Jar Jar was very similar in concept to the Ewoks, he was an annoying bit player who detracted from the experience. But, in my opinion, what ruined 'Jedi' was the whole rehashing of the Death Star format. Like, it's only 3 movies, couldn't they have come up with something original. Better than most films though, regardless.

On the subject of Ep2, Lucas has previously stated his philosophy in regards to making a trilogy; the first has to stand on it's own with the good guys winning, the second has to be focused on the bad guys getting back at them, leading on to the third installment where the good guys have a resounding victory. The open ended-ness of 'Empire' was one of the things that contributed to it being the best in the series. Because of the aforementioned formula, we can hope that the same things that made it great will rub off on Ep2.

[Reply #105 on:]

 

Originally posted by Ben:
 Like, it's only 3 movies, couldn't they have come up with something original.

But they flew into it, not over it!

At any rate, since this has evolved into the general Star Wars discussion, what do y'all think of the Star Wars books?  Any books, from Zahn's original trio to the lastest ones?

[Reply #106 on:]

I've got all 5 of Timothy Zahn's books. I've read the trilogy (and loved it), but I haven't got around to reading the next two yet. Zahn is a much better Star Wars writer than Lucas these days IMO. Mara Jade is cool.

[Reply #107 on:]

I actually kinda liked the first Ewok movie. It was cheesy, but the giant monster was awesome looking! It's probably the most convincing giant I've ever seen on screen. With most movies you can always tell it's just a puppet or some guy in a suit playing with miniature props or whatever, but in the Ewoks movie you really got a sense of hugeness.

The second movie sucked out loud though. Too kid-friendly, even for the Ewoks. The villians were bad, it focused on that annoying little girl, and the Ewoks could suddenly speak english? What the hell was with that? Plus, as much as we all love Wilford Brimley, he does NOT belong in Star Wars.

All in all, I wish they could have come up with a better spin-off. Maybe something set on Tatooine, with Jabba's palace and lots of drug smuggling and bounty hunter violence...or maybe something cute about the Jawas. Or an Ugnaughts tv movie. That would rock.

[Reply #108 on:]

I loved the original Zahn trilogy. I used to read all the Star Wars novels but now I'm too lazy to crack open a book. I read the first of Zahn's final two books...it also rocked, but I haven't gotten around to reading the last one.

The other books I read were hit or miss.

Has anyone read the new books, with Chewie dying and all that jazz? Are they any good? I personally think they should have stopped after Zahn's last two books, but I hear good things about that R.A. Salvatore guy...I'll have to read his stuff if I ever stop being lazy.

I used to read the comics too. I loved their two on-going ones, Droids and X-Wing Rogue Squadron, but they both got cancelled. Damn them.

[Reply #109 on:]

I'm working my way through that series.  It's hard to get a handle on it, because almost every single one is written by a different author.  It's different than anything else Star Wars-y, in that THE NEW REPUBLIC and THE NEW JEDI ORDER are getting their tails kicked by an extra-galactic alien menace.  THE NEW JEDI ORDER is on the brink of splitting into two seperate factions, and corruption is wide-spread throughout the government.  It adds a really dark tone to the Star Wars universe, darker than ESB.  After all, Chewie died in the first book.

[Reply #110 on:]

 

Originally posted by Nixorbo:
After all, Chewie died in the first book.

That is just so wrong...      

[Reply #111 on:]

i 've read timothy zahn's first three books and i didn't find them good. they were so bad written, just like books for kids. so i gave up reading star wars books.
and now chewie is dead??!!
  bastards  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, in my opinion it's the movies that count not the books!!!!

[Reply #112 on:]

How can you say they were childish? The plots were a hell of a lot more mature than the actual SW movies.

[Reply #113 on:]

i read them before episode one was released...and from todays point of view (after "the phantom menace&quot those books were great. what name did the blue-skinned admiral have? he was great but the clone thing was not that good...anyway i didn't like this trilogy...i've read better books than those.

[Reply #114 on:]

 

Originally posted by Nixorbo:
After all, Chewie died in the first book.

 

Originally posted by *Kryten*:
That is just so wrong...

Eh, I don't know, I never really liked the big shouting fleabag anyway...

[Reply #115 on:]

 

Originally posted by darthgy:
i 've read timothy zahn's first three books and i didn't find them good. they were so bad written, just like books for kids. so i gave up reading star wars books.

I'm surprised to hear someone think they are childish...like Ben pointed out, the stories were a lot more complex and mature than the movies. Oh well, I guess it's a good thing you didn't read the other books...some of the non-Zahn ones are just awful. I hated just about everything in The Crystal Star. I hope that author never works again. And Kevin J. Anderson, he can be ok every once in a while(I liked his Tales of the Jedi comics), but some of his stuff is just so damn cornball I can't stand it.

 

well, in my opinion it's the movies that count not the books!!!!

I agree, and I get the feeling that Lucas thinks that way too. Still, the books and comics are cool stories to read if you can ignore all the continuity errors with the movies.

[Reply #116 on:]

i remember the old comics published by marvel-comics. they were not bad but there were some pretty cheesy aliens in it like a giant rabitt (it looked like a man with a rabbits head).   

[Reply #117 on:]

In my opinion, episode 1 sucked for the following reasons:

1. It really lacks the mythic qualities that made ep. 4-6 so stirring. I mean, COME ON! Trade agreements? Oooh, that's exciting... not like that whole, boring feeling that you get watching the other ones where there's actually something at stake.

2. Established, famous movie stars in the roles, who looked as if they were doing the movie as a favour. Unknowns would've worked a lot better.

3. The computer-animated characters actually looked less realistic than puppets would have. At least when they use puppets, the actors don't stare at a point two inches above their heads...

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

[Reply #118 on:]

By the way, was I the only one who thought that there was going to be a romantic thing between Liam Neeson (can't remember the character's name) and Anakin's mom?    Maybe I'm just insane, but I thought that that would've made things a bit more interesting, at least.

[Reply #119 on:]

i want to see some jedi fights and  see how he gos to the dark side.     star wars is the best movie seires. episode 1  was really good