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leelaholic

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« Reply #80 on: 11-18-2003 08:23 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2003 08:23 »

Okay, okay, saying "disgrace" goes waaay too far. I don't know what I was thinking. I really just meant that it's better.

I hearby apologize to all you sad nerds 

TOTP "oops. *runs away*" Dance
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #81 on: 11-18-2003 14:50 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
i'm sure 'regina monolouges' will be crap, where they'll have a load of crap sterotyping on us brits.

 I remember when I first read the synopsis for that episode I almost puked. Then I saw a picture of Tony Blair in a Simpsons style and it just flowed.  puke

 Speaking of which, it's been well documented that Tony Blair did the voiceover for this upcoming episode during Gulf War II, so it had better be one doozy of a guest appearance! It obviously wont be but I'm trying to look at this ep in an open-minded (naive) light.  tongue

Shadowstar

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« Reply #82 on: 11-18-2003 15:18 »

[runs in panting] Sorry I'm late, trouble at the lab with the running and the exploding and the monkey grabbed the glasses right off my head! Mg-hey!
"The President Wore Pearls"
...K, it's an "Evita" parody, all right. But, it was a bit TOO musical. Someone was singing every other scene. I like musical segments of any episode, but this was a little too much. While this episode wasn't so hot, it had some good moments. Nelson's campaign and trying to regain his fans singing "Iron Man" was good. Homer's Nelson-impersonation was funny, with him prancing in the front lawn, but when he had the tutu on, it just went too far. Yeah, the ep goes on. Willie's imitation of Milhouse was funny, and Lisa's new hair was nice, although I liked hers from "22 Short Films about Springfield" better. More good stuff: Kent Brockman's report with Bart and Michael Moore, Willie singing about being drunk, the entire art room being dismantled from the school, etc. The ending seemed extremely rushed and unfinished and left me with a lot unanswered. Will the school be back to normal? Will Lisa be there? What about that new school? And why was it that Lisa was shocked about moving all those times before, but was willing to go to a new school with ease? Of course, everything will be back to normal next week, this ep's a 3/5.
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« Reply #83 on: 11-18-2003 15:27 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
  I remember when I first read the synopsis for that episode I almost puked. Then I saw a picture of Tony Blair in a Simpsons style and it just flowed.   puke

 Speaking of which, it's been well documented that Tony Blair did the voiceover for this upcoming episode during Gulf War II, so it had better be one doozy of a guest appearance! It obviously wont be but I'm trying to look at this ep in an open-minded (naive) light.   tongue


i thought it was before, well anyway i'm sure it'd been agreed before the war
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #84 on: 11-18-2003 15:30 »

No, it was definitely during because I remember the news report or whatever it was referring to it being a controversial thing on Mr. Blair's part.
leelaholic

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« Reply #85 on: 11-19-2003 08:42 »

Stereotyping countries in the Simpsons is a joke and a funny one at that. You can't tell me I'm being insensitive because stereotyping America (Our Country) is one of their most beloved gags. Anyway, it was especially funny in Bart vs. Austrailia.

(Bart sits with a pocket knife)

Aussie: You call that a knife??

(he takes out a spoon)

Aussie: THIS is a knife!!

Bart: That's a spoon.

Aussie: I see you've played knifey-spooney before!
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« Reply #86 on: 11-19-2003 14:05 »

true that was fantastic
 it might not be so funny when the jokes on us and they'll be making fun of sterotypes that aren't true.
its just the last 2 travelling episodes have been the ones in brazil and africa, the africa one was by the same writer as well so i have low expectations
leelaholic

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« Reply #87 on: 11-19-2003 16:15 »
« Last Edit on: 11-19-2003 16:15 »

Simpson Safari was written by John Shwartzwelder who is actually a very good writer. He's given us gold such as Homer's Enemy, You Only Move Twice, Bart the General, etc.

 
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it might not be so funny when the jokes on us and they'll be making fun of sterotypes that aren't true

Like I said before, I can enjoy them making fun of our untrue stereotypes.

like this...

Sherry: (singing)
Cut every corner, it's really not so bad,
everybody does it, even mom and dad.
If nobody sees it, nobody gets mad!

Bart: (singing) It's the American way!

Or this...

Homer: Hey, do you want it done right or fast??

Marge: Like all Americans, fast!
Shadowstar

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« Reply #88 on: 11-19-2003 17:40 »

Yes, that may be true about Swartzwelder, leelaholic, but what "gold" has he given us recently? I can only count 7 out of the 18 he's written since Season 10 that are pretty good. All the others are OK or bad or horrible.
leelaholic

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« Reply #89 on: 11-19-2003 17:54 »

Yeah, I know  cry but there are still more "OKs" than "bads" or "horribles". Still, it's better than Anything else.

As for comparing it to Futurama...

Simpsons seasons 1-8 > Futurama
Simpsons seasons 9-12 < Futurama
Simpsons season 13 > Futurama
Simpsons season 14 (first part) < Futurama
Simpsons season 14 (second part) > Futurama
Simpsons season 15 > Futurama

I'm sorry but the only thing Futurama did better than The Simpsons was suck and die but I still like Futurama (only the old episodes)

Just my opinion...
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« Reply #90 on: 11-19-2003 18:19 »

Swartzwelder's written so many episodes there bound to be uneven. what i meant leeleaholic is that he seems that he's not so good at doing holiday episodes. it could have similar weaknesses

incidentlly
he's averaged about 4 episodes a season, although think he's up to 65 or something the moment, i said this in the other already that simpsons should go for about other 9 seasons allowing him to write 100 episodes and the 100th can be the most hilariously self indulgent piece of writing ever
DotheBartman

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« Reply #91 on: 11-19-2003 19:59 »

By "holiday" do you mean "vacation" episodes, User names?  Remember, he wrote Itchy and Scratchy Land too.

I'm actually not even going to be watching Regina Monologues anytime soon, the reason being long and complicated but basically having to do with that @$$#0!e Blair being in it.  Still, lay off Swartzwelder.  Many of the bad scripts probably aren't even his fault as was discussed.  And he did give us the, IMO, excellent "Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington" last year.
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« Reply #92 on: 11-19-2003 20:16 »

the latest "little calvary vs. the little indians" episode actually had me laughing. other than that, it now sucks.

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Just Chris

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« Reply #93 on: 11-19-2003 20:52 »

"The President Wore Pearls" wasn't a horrific episode. It was one of the 'realer' Simpsons episodes. I don't think there was a lot of singing; it was just right. There were a few of good moments put in, and for some reason I laughed the most at the Michael Moore joke: "Where did you get that statistic?" "From your mother!!!" Probably because we were discussing Moore's tweaking of facts in film class.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #94 on: 11-20-2003 00:04 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Still, lay off Swartzwelder.  Many of the bad scripts probably aren't even his fault as was discussed.  And he did give us the, IMO, excellent "Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington" last year.

If other people can't bash him for "writing" weak episodes, you can't praise him for "writing" "good" episodes.

From what I hear, the Swartzwelder scripts are pretty much just staff-written. It makes me wonder if the guy really exists...maybe he's just some crazy character made up by the rest of the Simpsons writers.

And now my The President Wore Pearls review: the Evita parody was pretty cutting edge, but the writers need to stop doing musical numbers. I can't remember the last one that worked. The whole "character A wins the audience over with a song. character B tries to out-do character A, but with no song prepared, fails miserably" gag has been done to death.

Some other gags were funny(Homer's impression of Nelson, Willie's impression of Milhouse), some others embarassing. Overall, it wasn't too bad, but if that's really "the best episode in YEARS", well, then that's actually pretty sad.

And I just can't believe people think it's better than Futurama. Season 4 may have had some weak episodes, but the stories were generally interesting and memorable. A few years down the line, who is going to remember or care about some crappy Evita parody?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #95 on: 11-20-2003 03:08 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
 If other people can't bash him for "writing" weak episodes, you can't praise him for "writing" "good" episodes.



Yeah, good point.  We don't know how much of "Mr. Spritz" or even "Itchy and Scratchy Land" or any other episode he actually wrote.  He DOES exsist though.  I can see why people would think he's fictional and all, but after 15 years you would think one of the writers involved with the show at some point would crack and reveal his true "identity".  He's just a recluse who hasn't visited the studio very often since the early days,  That's all.

 
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And I just can't believe people think it's better than Futurama. Season 4 may have had some weak episodes, but the stories were generally interesting and memorable. A few years down the line, who is going to remember or care about some crappy Evita parody

Well, "crappy" is an opinion.  Personally I and many others loved it.  Interestingly, a lot of people said similar things about the Sherry Bobbins one back in the day, and that one seems popular enough now.  Not to say you, and the critics of the Sherry Bobbins one, aren't entitled to their opinions.

And again I disagree with Leelaholic, but I do think The Simpsons still has interesting stories in them, such as the recent one with Homer's mother or Moe Baby Blues.  Similarly, Futurama had some great stories in 4ACV(Jurassic Bark, Leela's Homeworld, and so on), but also some, well, pretty shitty ones (Three Hundred Big Boys, Obsolutely Fabulous).  Futurama was a better show then Simpsons is now, but the good episodes still do beat most of the lesser Futurama episodes I think.
David A

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« Reply #96 on: 11-20-2003 04:23 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
I'm sorry but the only thing Futurama did better than The Simpsons was suck and die but I still like Futurama (only the old episodes)

Just my opinion...

Huh.

Well, like you said, it's just your opinion; but it's a strange opinion for someone posting on a Futurama message board under the name "leelaholic" to have.

In my opinion, The Simpsons have never been better than (or even equal to) Futurama.  And unlike some people around here, I still like The SimpsonsThe Simpsons is a funny show, but that's all it does.  With Futurama, there's a lot more to it.

Okay, I'd better review "The President Wore Pearls" now, so that this post doesn't look like spam.

I liked it.  In fact, I think that it was the best new Simpsons episode that I've seen in a while.  Maybe it's from watching too many Mighty Mouse cartoons in my formative years, but I'm a sucker for cartoon musicals.  I didn't even realize that it was supposed to be an Evita parody until they showed that disclaimer at the end.  But then, I've never seen Evita.

Also, the jab at Michael Moore was great.  That's where he gets all of his statistics from.  He just makes them up.
winna

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« Reply #97 on: 11-20-2003 04:57 »

I thought it was a decent episode... Willy was the funniest person in the episode with his "and I don't have any friends so I confide in willy". and his drunkenness and what not... I liked the episode they showed afterward with the cavalry kids vs. the indians a little better... Mr. Burns, "It seems the Pawnee have returned... they must be wanting their souls back." :lol:
leelaholic

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« Reply #98 on: 11-20-2003 08:36 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2003 08:36 »

In case you couldn't tell, my comment wasn't sincere. It was simply a reverse of what I have to hear from whiney anti-Simpson people every day. I guess I was just curious what reaction I'd get. I love Futurama! It's not as good as The Simpsons, but nothing is.

Back Ontopic: George Meyer should write more scripts, his stuff's hilarious!

Like this...

Homer: The new Bart's so great. He filed all the lawsuits against me into one class action!

Lenny: Wow. That's gonna save tons of travel time!

Homer: You know it.

Or this...

Marge: No more experimental medication for you. From now on, we're sticking to good old Ritilan.

(The "Popeye" theme plays)

Bart: (singing)
When I can't stop fiddlin',
I just takes me Ritalin,
I'm poppin' and sailin', man!

Or this...

(the Springfielders are yelling out their problems)

Quimby: I can't stay in a, er, reationship!

Apu: I have problems with-

Lenny: (interrupting) I keep interupting people!

Or this...

(the family is being interviewed in Behind the Laughter)

Marge: They told us how to dress, what to wear, what clothes to put on...

Bart: The cops caught me drivin' on the sidewalk!

 
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Originally posted by DoTheBartman:
It had some good ones, but also some, well, pretty shitty ones (Three Hundred Big Boys, Obsolutely Fabulous).

You left out Less Than Hero and Devil's Hands are idle Playthings (Even worse than Scully Simpsons)
winna

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« Reply #99 on: 11-20-2003 08:51 »

Devil's Hands was a good episode, YOU TAKE THAT BACK!  And Less Than Hero had its moments, in fact I'd say it was most like a Simpsons episode with the jokes.
leelaholic

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« Reply #100 on: 11-20-2003 10:45 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
Devil's Hands was a good episode, YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
 

Worst. Episode. EVER!

 
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And Less Than Hero had its moments

Meh to say the least. At least it was better than DHAIP (although almost anything would be)
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« Reply #101 on: 11-20-2003 12:10 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
 You left out Less Than Hero and Devil's Hands are idle Playthings (Even worse than Scully Simpsons) in my opinion.

FIXED.  tongue

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« Reply #102 on: 11-20-2003 13:28 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2003 13:28 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
In case you couldn't tell, my comment wasn't sincere. It was simply a reverse of what I have to hear from whiney anti-Simpson people every day. I guess I was just curious what reaction I'd get. I love Futurama! It's not as good as The Simpsons, but nothing is.

Back Ontopic: George Meyer should write more scripts, his stuff's hilarious!

Like this...

Homer: The new Bart's so great. He filed all the lawsuits against me into one class action!

Lenny: Wow. That's gonna save tons of travel time!

Homer: You know it.

Or this...

Marge: No more experimental medication for you. From now on, we're sticking to good old Ritilan.

(The "Popeye" theme plays)

Bart: (singing)
When I can't stop fiddlin',
I just takes me Ritalin,
I'm poppin' and sailin', man!

Or this...

(the Springfielders are yelling out their problems)

Quimby: I can't stay in a, er, reationship!

Apu: I have problems with-

Lenny: (interrupting) I keep interupting people!

Or this...

(the family is being interviewed in Behind the Laughter)

Marge: They told us how to dress, what to wear, what clothes to put on...

Bart: The cops caught me drivin' on the sidewalk!

 You left out Less Than Hero and Devil's Hands are idle Playthings (Even worse than Scully Simpsons)

there was another he wrote with mike scully, so i dont know if it was him, but the one there tied together, and homer and marge accidentley sink the evil judges houseboat, and then we see a newspaper article that says precious quilt ruined.

Judge: THAT QUILT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY MY GRANDMOTHER
Homer: so, you got it for free.


I Find this really odd, i agree with leelaholic about simpsons and how annoying peoples bashing of it is,
but i think 4acv of futurama was by far the best series. so dont know whats going on there.

Also people seemed to think i was heavily criticisng swartzwelder i wasn't really i just meant the africa episode sucked, but i guess writers usually only write about 40/50%
of the episode. and they often talk about swartzwelder on the commentaries so they must be covering it up pretty well if he doesn't exisit.
i've read in his biog that he used to write for saturday night live dont what years exactly but it'd be good to find out more about him
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« Reply #103 on: 11-20-2003 17:12 »

I saw a picture of Tony Blair (in Simpsons style)next to Homer Simpson. I have to say that the caricature isn't too great. They've obviously been very kind/scared of him, and smoothed over his more ridiculous features.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #104 on: 11-20-2003 19:32 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2003 19:32 »

User: Writers write 40%, IF THAT, of an episode.  Basically 40% is the maximum, and only happens, to my understanding, if the script happens to be really, really good.  They re-write episodes so much that by the end of the day all the credited writer may have written was the basic idea for the plot.  The show is very team written, that cannot be emphasized enough.

Edit: Yes, Swartzwelder wrote for SNL, as did some other Simpsons writers like Jon Vitti and George Meyer.  So, if he was really a legend, SNL would have ahd to be in on it as well.  Just too unbelievable, especcially since there isn't any particular alliance between the Simpsons and SNL staffs aside from the obvious fact that they've hired a few of the same people.

To clarify my statement about certain "shitty" plots, I was talking about the plots themselves as opposed to the episodes.  Three Hundred Big Boys is in fact a shitty episode, but Obsolutely Fabulous is basically middling.  Bad story, decent humor.  Leelaholic:  Less then Hero had a pretty bad story, though I think that was more or less intentional in terms of it being a super-hero parody.  It was one of the weaker episodes of Futurama but it was still pretty decent I thought.  Devil's Hands I personally think is absolutely wonderful all around.  Great characters, great story, great humor, etc.  Its a tad overrated but its still in my top 20.  Hardly one that I "forgot" to list as being shitty.
leelaholic

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« Reply #105 on: 11-21-2003 08:24 »
« Last Edit on: 11-21-2003 08:24 »

Yeah, I'm probably the only person in the world that hates Devil's Hands... well, there's Asylum. C'mon, Asylum, defend me!

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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #106 on: 11-21-2003 09:16 »

 
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Originally posted by M Jackson:
I saw a picture of Tony Blair (in Simpsons style)next to Homer Simpson. I have to say that the caricature isn't too great. They've obviously been very kind/scared of him, and smoothed over his more ridiculous features.

 They should've tracked down 2DTV on DVD for a good caricature of Tony Blair.  wink
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« Reply #107 on: 11-21-2003 13:23 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
User: Writers write 40%, IF THAT, of an episode.  Basically 40% is the maximum, and only happens, to my understanding, if the script happens to be really, really good.  They re-write episodes so much that by the end of the day all the credited writer may have written was the basic idea for the plot.  The show is very team written, that cannot be emphasized enough.

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no its is usually 40%/50% of the writers contribution. al jean explains on seprate vocations commentary. but he says in george meyers case his orginal script read like a final draught and most of the episode was the orignal daught
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« Reply #108 on: 11-21-2003 16:08 »

The Simpsons have now lost the plot and gone downhill when Futurama started.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #109 on: 11-21-2003 16:48 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
 no its is usually 40%/50% of the writers contribution. al jean explains on seprate vocations commentary. but he says in george meyers case his orginal script read like a final draught and most of the episode was the orignal daught

The 50% rule was probably pretty close in the early days.  But nowadays writers contribute significantly less to their credited scripts.

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« Reply #110 on: 11-21-2003 17:33 »

...which could be the main reason that scripts seem less cohesive now. I can see that working for Family Guy, where most of the jokes are throw-away, but it's hard to have too many people writing one script.
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« Reply #111 on: 11-21-2003 17:46 »

maybe they do that story writing game where one person writes a line and then they pass on the paper and the next person write the next line and so on till they get enough material down
DotheBartman

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« Reply #112 on: 11-22-2003 17:08 »
« Last Edit on: 11-22-2003 17:08 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
...which could be the main reason that scripts seem less cohesive now.


Maybe.  I think the upping in the team-written aspect happened pretty early on though,  somewhere around season 4 or 5 or so.

User: I'm %100 sure they have never written any episodes like that.  Well, maybe they did with "Kill the Alligator and Run"....
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« Reply #113 on: 11-22-2003 17:12 »

Is KTAAR a bit notorious in the Simpsons community?  wink

Because I was doing a little bit of lurking at nohomers today, and I saw that abbreviation a couple of times and had no idea what it was. (By the way, I noted you're infamous for avoiding The Regina Monologues  wink)?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #114 on: 11-22-2003 21:00 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
Is KTAAR a bit notorious in the Simpsons community?   wink

Because I was doing a little bit of lurking at nohomers today, and I saw that abbreviation a couple of times and had no idea what it was. (By the way, I noted you're infamous for avoiding The Regina Monologues   wink)?


Both correct I'm afraid.  Virtually no one likes KTAAR (Kill the Alligator and Run), and I freakin' hate Tony Blair.  Simpsons Safari is another hated episode around there, and the Scully era in general doesn't seem to have many fans.
leelaholic

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« Reply #115 on: 11-22-2003 21:19 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
User: I'm 100% sure they have never written any episodes like that.  Well, maybe they did with "Kill the Alligator and Run"....

Seems logical.

Also, I saw a hilarious bit from TRM in a preview.

(the Simpsons drive down the road in a lefty car)

Homer: It's gonna feel so weird flipping people off with my right hand.

(he moves his hand just offscreen then quicky jerks it back)

Homer: Ooh. That's gonna be sore tommorow.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #116 on: 11-23-2003 00:57 »

It's amazing what qualifies as hilarious these days.

 
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By leelaholic:
Back Ontopic: George Meyer should write more scripts, his stuff's hilarious!

I remember reading an interview with him...he's a cool, funny guy. But I don't know if he should be writing any more scripts. That ritalin spoof was a good idea, but like all Scully-era episodes, the story just fell apart, and they tried to smug their way out of it with a stupid nonsense ending.

Also, I hate to take this thread so off-topic, but what exactly was so bad about The Devil's Hands etc.? I always hate it when characters sing instead of having normal dialogue, but overall I thought it was good. It had a good story, funny jokes, and the characters weren't fucked up versions of themselves. And though I hated the singing, the lyrics were way more clever than recent Simpsons songs. What gives? Why all the hatin'?
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« Reply #117 on: 11-23-2003 01:19 »

IMO, FishyJeff, leelaholic's just looking for attention. And yes, you're right, that little bit from "The Regina Monologues" doesn't pass for hilarious with me. I think I'll forget to watch it tomorrow, like I usually do.
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« Reply #118 on: 11-23-2003 15:19 »

Kill the alligator and run was funny. stupid plotwise and ruined by the kid rock apperance but i thought it had some great moments.
for example.

LISA: Mom Bart's sitting next to me
BART: Mom lisa's growing
MARGE: quiet kids your father needs some peace
HOMER: My pockets hurt

and

VELMA: you took the signs out of the window? thats pretty presumptious how do you know i'm going to hire you.
BART: Sorry. I just want to be a broom boy so bad
VELMA: I like your attitude. your hired. what about you little girl you wanna be a mop girl?
LISA: Not really, no
VELMA: I like your honesty your hired (*looks at homer and marge*)you two haven't said a word. i like that your hired.

Shadowstar

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« Reply #119 on: 11-23-2003 16:47 »

Yes, but that was basically it. Maybe two more bits: Homer complaining about there being no good place to pull over, and:
Prison Guy: No listening! Y'hear?
Homer: Uh... no?
Prison Guy: You just don't get it, do you? [whips him]
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