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DotheBartman

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« Reply #280 on: 12-24-2003 19:53 »

Actually, that's one of the problems with Das Bus.  In seasons 3 and 4 most (certainly not ALL mind you, just MOST) of the really wacky stuff happened to other characters or completely outside of what was going on, instead of within the plot and to members of OFF.  In Das Bus the kids are shipwrecked and go on bogus adventures, and Homer meets Bill Gates for some reason.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #281 on: 12-24-2003 21:02 »

No thats what I said in s3 and 4 and on to  its side jokes for wacky stuff and its very good.
but Bill gates comes to see homer to stop him as his site doesn't seem to do anything so it could be some bizzare thing that could compete with bill gates, so he comes to stop him.

But the later wackiness didn't bother me because I dont watch simpsons for a down to earth realistic family show, why should it stay a certain way throughout its entire exisitence, changing itself keeps plots fresh and allows for a wider range of humour. Obviously its tiresome to every week have an unbelivable plot, probably made up of parodies, but its still gives a few laughs.
You people put such emphasis into things like 'charcterisation', 'pacing' and 'structure'
you seem to forget whether or not something is funny.

Now I'm tired and I'm rambling and I want to stop arguing this stuff because I dont want to get too deeply into this argument. Although its probably too late
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« Reply #282 on: 12-25-2003 01:01 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
But the later wackiness didn't bother me because I dont watch simpsons for a down to earth realistic family show, why should it stay a certain way throughout its entire exisitence, changing itself keeps plots fresh and allows for a wider range of humour. Obviously its tiresome to every week have an unbelivable plot, probably made up of parodies, but its still gives a few laughs.


 
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You people put such emphasis into things like 'charcterisation', 'pacing' and 'structure'
you seem to forget whether or not something is funny.

There are three animated shows that I've watched consistently; Futurama, Family Guy and The Simpsons.

I have four "Futurama" DVD sets. I already have 2 of the 3 available "Simpsons" sets, and plan to get at least to Season 9.

But I don't have any "Family Guy" DVDs. Why? Because I don't feel the need to watch any given episode more than once, since it becomes painfully obvious that it's largely a sketch show with interstitial plot tying it together.

I agree that "The Simpsons" should be funny. But it shouldn't IMO sacrifice the things which propelled it into cult status. Why can't they blend intelligent humour, genuine emotion and good plotting? I know it's a tall order, but it's one they managed to achieve for the better part of 8 seasons.

Personally, I care more about the characters than about the humour - hence my choice of favourite Futurama episode is "Luck of the Fryrish"; an episode that certainly isn't the funniest but is IMO the best.

That's not to say I don't care about the humour, but I don't want to sacrifice the characters for a cheap joke (something both FG and Scully Simpsons are consistently guilty of).

This is largely why I don't feel the modern seasons are quite there yet. I agree there's less problematic characterisation, but they're still using bad material for their jokes, and the pacing still feels off. They're clawing their way back, but it's going to be a bit longer until they've convinced me they've "speared the shark".  wink
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #283 on: 12-25-2003 17:52 »

I agree with CyberKnight. Many shows can be funny, but for me it takes more than a series of cheap laughs for a show to have any staying power in my collection.

 I was watching "Call Of The Simpsons" on the Season 1 DVD I got this morning and even back then the show had wackiness to it. Scientists believing Homer to be Bigfoot, Maggie hanging out with a group of friendly bears. Yet the characters still had a warmth and humanity to them that's sorely lacking from Scully-era clinical, soulless episodes.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #284 on: 12-25-2003 20:59 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
Oh lets all rip on people we think aren't ridculously over educated.

If you aren't "ridiculously over educated" in the field of English literature and still choose to write TV scripts as your career, shouldn't you expect a little criticism? And is that criticism completely unfounded?
FishyJoe

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« Reply #285 on: 12-25-2003 22:19 »

What, is Scully under-educated or something? I assumed he was a Ivy leaguer like all the other Simpsons writers.

I'm certainly not going to criticize someone for not being overeducated. TV could use more "real" people writing scripts, as opposed to all these Harvard imbeciles who wrote for the Lampoon and think they're god's gift to comedy.
leelaholic

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« Reply #286 on: 12-26-2003 13:32 »
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Harvard writers wrote Lampoon?    eek I hope you meant the first one. The second one was just plain shitty.


Anyway, User_Names_Suck, Scully's problem was turning characters into exaggerated versions of themselves. Homer was overly dumb, Lisa was overly whiney, Bart was overly bratty, Marge was overly naggy, Maggie was still perfect, but you get the point.

Let's look at a crappy sample of his work...

"Tennis the Menace": Homer was in full jerk ass mode. The scene where he imagines Bart and Marge as    eek lovers    puke was awful.

Now some exceptions...

"Trilogy of Error": This script was Scully proof because every scene was important later. More importance means less chances to screw up.

"Brother's Litte Helper": This script was Scully proof because it was written by George Meyer. He hasn't written a Simpsons script yet that wasn't great. More perfection means less chances for Scully to do his own thing.

"Behind the Laughter": It was written by George Meyer. Also, Meyer and Al Jean helped Scully executive produce it.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #287 on: 12-26-2003 16:07 »
« Last Edit on: 12-26-2003 16:07 »

Brother's Little Helper...was that the ritalin episode? Because if it was... *shakes fist*

Behind The Laughter didn't have to have a story, and the characters didn't have to act 100% true to themselves. Perfect for Scully. I wouldn't credit Al Jean and George Meyer for helping him executive produce it...didn't they "executive produce"(but weren't showrunners) all of seasons 11 and 12?

Edited to add that I was talking about the Harvard Lampoon, which at some point spun off the hated National Lampoon. "Funny" Money my ass!
Shadowstar

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« Reply #288 on: 12-26-2003 16:24 »
« Last Edit on: 12-26-2003 16:24 »

I found Brother's Little Helper to be good, but not as a major exception to the Scully madness, and Tennis the Menace wasn't bad, but not great either. I had no problem with the Marge/Bart dream. Bart's line, "He thought that trip to the guillitone factory was for fun, but it was just the place to shoot him." was great, as well as Homer waking up and glaring angrily at Bart's smiling photo.
leelaholic

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« Reply #289 on: 12-26-2003 17:53 »
« Last Edit on: 12-26-2003 17:53 »

I've listed my overrated/underrated Simpsons episodes (I'm Alpha Homega) and, as you can see from the big red letters, I think Brother's Little Helper is HORRIBLY underrated.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #290 on: 12-26-2003 23:07 »

To finally respond to User Name again:

In addition to a lot of what CyberNight said, the fact for many of us is that things like characterizations and pacing affect do in fact affect whether something is funny or not.  Random wackiness with characters that have no specific base to them is only ever funny in small doses, which may be part of why "Family Guy" ultimately failed to hold a big audience.
leelaholic

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« Reply #291 on: 12-28-2003 22:26 »

Let's get ready to speeeeeeeculate!

 
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From SNPP:
Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays
Marge gets a job as a advice dispenser on KBBL radio, where she starts voicing out controversial opinions. Meanwhile, Maggie is left in a daycare center, under the control of a mean Nursery School Admissions Officer (voiced by American Idol judge Simon Cowell).

 
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Fox's official description:
"Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens, and Gays"
Things heat up in Springfield when Marge starts voicing out controversial opinions on the radio. Don't miss an all-new episode of The Simpsons, Sunday January 4 at 8PM/7C

Sounds good to me.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #292 on: 12-29-2003 01:24 »

Another aspect of that story: Marge is angry because of a new school tax that only people with schoolchildren have to pay.  Makes the title and Marge's anger a little more clear.

I actually think it sounds VERY interesting.  It sounds like a good oppurtunity for both character defining humor (which we don't get enough of with Marge) and for an extensive social satire.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #293 on: 12-29-2003 08:52 »

The Maggie subplot doesn't sound too inspired though.  hmpf
Shadowstar

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« Reply #294 on: 12-29-2003 11:28 »
« Last Edit on: 12-29-2003 11:28 »

Sounds REHASHED. Anyone remember "In Marge We Trust"? The Maggie subplot is also from "A Streetcar Named Marge," but maybe Simon will make it different.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #295 on: 12-29-2003 14:50 »

"In Marge We Trust" did spring to mind, but the theme there was that Marge's opinions in that episode were helpful, not controversial.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #296 on: 12-29-2003 15:52 »

I suppose so, but it's still been done. Might be good though.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #297 on: 12-30-2003 02:19 »

The Maggie bit does sound a bit rehashed but I think they can make it fresh again.  Regarding In Marge We Trust though, it didn't really spring to mind for me, and this seems different enough.  If anything this actually sounds like a more interesting plotline then In Marge We Trust.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #298 on: 12-30-2003 02:26 »

I agree on the main storyline (but I hope it's not a gag-fest, as I find they don't work well with Marge).

As for the side-plot, it's going to have a tough time of it for me, I can tell you.  wink

I still regard that sequence in "A Streetcar Named Marge" as one of Maggie's best moments (and that episode in particular is a personal favourite of mine). But hey, at least they're remembering there's five Simpsons.  wink
David A

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« Reply #299 on: 12-30-2003 02:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
The Maggie subplot is also from "A Streetcar Named Marge," but maybe Simon will make it different.

If by "different" you mean worse, then yeah, probably.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
leelaholic

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« Reply #300 on: 12-30-2003 02:50 »

I think it'll be interesting to see the portrayal of Marge since she's been a little troublesome lately (although it's mostly just awkward little moments). Also, I agree with DoTheBartman that this is, if anything, more interesting than "In Marge We Trust".

A good sign that the show is improving is that stuff I miss is returning.

Real emotion - returning
Bart/Lisa teamwork - returning
Less obvious pop culture refs - returning
Well developed plots - returning
Phil Hartman - Sadly, can never return  cry  cry

Also, David A, I doubt Simon will make it worse. If anything, his appearence will bring some humor that Marge episodes seem to be lacking.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #301 on: 12-30-2003 14:17 »

Well, remember two things about Simon Cowell:

1) He's not an actor, but a well known figure in the music industry.
2) He's British.

 I say this, because Geri Halliwell, a celeb who also fits both the criteria listed above, appeared on Sex And The City in the last season and she was utterly attrocious.  puke Seriously, she completely stood out like a Guiness gut. So I damn sure hope that Cowell has some sort of hidden acting talent he's not letting on about.  hmpf
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #302 on: 12-30-2003 14:22 »
« Last Edit on: 12-30-2003 14:22 »

 
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I think the fact that Homer's setting up a dot com company without any idea about computers or anything and that Bill Gates still wants to buy out his company is why it's wacky.

Yes, the same Homer that couldn't find the 'any' key. I have no idea what episode you're talking about though, nor do I anymore care...
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #303 on: 12-30-2003 15:21 »

Well I was actually talking to that guy who thinks that user names suck when I said that. But meh... tongue
Shadowstar

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« Reply #304 on: 12-30-2003 18:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-30-2003 18:12 »

I've had it! I'm a huge Simpsons fan, and I will always watch new episodes, but that doesn't mean I like them. Some are good, most are meh, or not good. The show is NOT getting better. The show is LIGHTYEARS from being as good as it was before. The show has gone up from the Scully years, I'll admit, but it's in the same position is it was from Season 13.

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Real emotion - returning
Yeah, you got a really serious moment where Homer reunites with his mother, after going on 11 years, and they have to ruin it by shoving in a painfully unfunny joke with him hugging a bum, which was all over the promos I might add.
 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Well developed plots - returning
WELL DEVELOPED PLOTS?!?! The first act and the entire episode don't even connect anymore. They didn't much before, but at least the first act fluently went into the episode, while now we have "OK, let's go to England now."
leelaholic

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« Reply #305 on: 12-30-2003 19:53 »
« Last Edit on: 12-30-2003 19:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
I've had it! I'm a huge Simpsons fan, and I will always watch new episodes, but that doesn't mean I like them. Some are good, most are meh, or not good. The show is NOT getting better. The show is LIGHTYEARS from being as good as it was before. The show has gone up from the Scully years, I'll admit, but it's in the same position is it was from Season 13.
I can honestly say that it's much better than S13.
 
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Real emotion - returning
Yeah, you got a really serious moment where Homer reunites with his mother, after going on 11 years, and they have to ruin it by shoving in a painfully unfunny joke with him hugging a bum, which was all over the promos I might add.

I was refering to the bonding scenes as well as pretty much everything but that joke.
 
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Well developed plots - returning
WELL DEVELOPED PLOTS?!?! The first act and the entire episode don't even connect anymore. They didn't much before, but at least the first act fluently went into the episode, while now we have "OK, let's go to England now."
Remember "'Tis the Fifteenth Season"? "My Mother the Carjacker"? "The President wore Pearls"? (probably) "Marge vs. [a lot of people]"?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #306 on: 12-30-2003 23:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:

Yeah, you got a really serious moment where Homer reunites with his mother, after going on 11 years, and they have to ruin it by shoving in a painfully unfunny joke with him hugging a bum, which was all over the promos I might add.
As opposed to the first time they reunited and a bird spit a fish in Homer's pants.

Its The Simpsons.  They'll have some serious moments but they're never just going to stop doing jokes completely.  Even Lisa's Substitute was largely comedy, and had Homer accidentally sitting on Lisa's dollhouse in one of the series' most serious moments ever.  Its just a matter of combining the serious and the funny without wrecking either.  I think "My Mother the Carjacker" generally pulled that off well, and I'm prepared to argue that if it comes to that.  Certainly some episodes haven't pulled it off well of course (and that's both in the Jean era and in the classic years.  We can forget the Scully era since it never had any genuine emotion to begin with) but in this case it was pulled off fine IMO.

Also, I'd like to note that the producers have NOTHING to do with the way the show is advertised. Fox makes the promos, always have.  If producers of shows had anything to do with the advertising we'd have actually seen some ads for Futurama once in a while.  In the case of Simpsons, they even make fun of Fox's advertising of the show on some of the audio commentaries, and clearly aren't pleased with some of it.

 
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WELL DEVELOPED PLOTS?!?! The first act and the entire episode don't even connect anymore. They didn't much before, but at least the first act fluently went into the episode, while now we have "OK, let's go to England now."

Um...actually they do.  Moe Baby Blues, Three Gays of the Condo, and President Wore Pearls are just a few examples where the first act fit the rest of the episode thematically.  I do agree that its sometimes still a problem, but its not even that much of a change from some of the "classic" seasons.  Take Homer Goes to College, Bart vs. Australia, Boy Scoutz and the Hood, Bart Gets an Elephant, Fear of Flying, Simpsonscalifragilisticexpial iD'ohcious, Marge in Chains, The Otto Show, and Krusty Gets Cancelled to name but a few...they all have awful plots and fluctuate as badly as your average season 13 episode (which I think was more problematic structurally then season 15 episodes so far.  14 is up in the air...).  Heck, Radio Bart is one of my favorites, but it doesn't really even touch its main point until around the middle of act two, when Bart finally starts his prank.

Shadowstar

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« Reply #307 on: 12-31-2003 14:23 »
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OK, fine. I guess I was venting off steam from some of the recent episodes and also leelaholic's adoring manner toward the new episodes. The new episodes aren't so bad, but they aren't as good as the old ones, I can tell you that. Even in those misstructured episodes you named there, at least they were funnier. I love "The Otto Show," one of the best jokes is in that episode, where Homer tells Otto to keep down his guitar playing. "I can't hear myself think!" Otto stops. Then Homer thinks, "I want some peanuts." He then tells Otto, "That's better." Great stuff.
 
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Also, I'd like to note that the producers have NOTHING to do with the way the show is advertised. Fox makes the promos, always have.
Yeah, I know that. I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. I hate it when they pick the worst jokes to put in the promo. The promo for "C.E.D'oh!" they have to put the only racy joke in the promo where Homer waterskiis and is asked to stop looking at one of the executive's breasts. There are so many other better jokes, but that's another story.
leelaholic

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« Reply #308 on: 12-31-2003 18:42 »

er... bad news, everyone. I just heard about a possible subplot from "I, (Annoyed Grunt) Bot"
 
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From Alt.tv.Simpsons:
I, D'oh-Bot: [subplot]
Omigod - they killed Snowball II - you bastards! - or at least Marge and Lisa seem to think she's dead
Keep in mind that this may be a rumor but it's also backed up by TiVo so... who knows  cry
User_names_suck
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« Reply #309 on: 12-31-2003 20:41 »
« Last Edit on: 12-31-2003 20:41 »

Al jean said on a commentarie that new shows have been cut down by fox to squeeze in more adverts, which means there's not really time for a B-Story,which is whys they have the story that connects in an obscure way at the beginning
really can people stop picking apart on this detail, its quite irrlervant.
And humour during emotinal moments is usually a good thing and One of futuramas problems, was they'd always force in some emotion and everything would slow down, and often ther'd be no real B story, so it would really drag, and could be quite boring,Which also meant that lots of things could be quite predictable And this is something thats better about simpsons
DotheBartman

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« Reply #310 on: 12-31-2003 22:38 »

Okay, agreed then Shadowstar, about the promos.  Fox usually picks the worst gags (although I actually found the hobo gag funny personally).  In fact, in some cases they even pick out stuff that didn't make it into the final episode. That C.E.D'oh gag is is example I think.

And again, I guess we come to the same argument to enjoy episodes for what they are worth.  Again, I also agree that the show is not as good as in the classic years, but overall that's just to be expected.  All of my other favorite shows (Futurama, Twilight Zone, South Park, The Wonder Years, The Daily Show to name a few) don't match seasons 1-8 of The Simpsons for me, generally.  I just try to rate each episode on their own merits and not let any other era of the show cloud my judgement to much.  If an episode is entertaining to me (President Wore Pearls, My Mother the Carjacker, Tis the Fifteenth Season) then I say its entertaining. If it isn't (Fat and the Furriest) then I say it isn't.  As someone at the NHC recently said, "I think that if people held the same exacting standards they do on The Simpsons to other shows (for the record, this person was partially referring to Futurama as the discussion largely revolved around it) they probably wouldn't much enjoy many of the shows they consider to be superior, or even much of anything that's available for entertainment".

Also, for the record I don't hate any of those episodes I mentioned (although Homer Goes to College and a couple others there I am beginning to like less and less), including The Otto Show.  Just playing devil's advocate and pointing out that many of the problems that are presumably in the newest episodes were in fact quite prevelant in a lot of classics as well.
leelaholic

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« Reply #311 on: 01-01-2004 00:33 »
« Last Edit on: 01-01-2004 00:33 »

The new episode is fast approaching so I'm gonna take this time to give my S15 ratings so far...

-THOH XIV B-
-My Mother the Carjacker A+
-The President Wore Pearls A
-The Regina Monologues B-
-The Fat and the Furriest C
-Today I Am a Clown B+
-Tis the 15th Season A+
-Marge vs. [Lots of People] to be decided

Edit: Also, Shadowstar, I didn't mean to sound so hyperbole-ish but all the Simpson bashing at PEEL kinda provokes it (and caused me to make a complete dumbass out of myself on the first few pages of this thread).

Edit 2: I should also add that when I said "improving", I meant "as opposed to recent years", not "as opposed to the whole series". Seasons 1-8 are better than Season 15, but Season 15 is much better than Seasons 9-12 and slightly better than 13 and 14.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #312 on: 01-01-2004 16:24 »
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Yeah, alright. I also am annoyed by all the Simpsons bashing. OK, I do think grouping seasons 9 and 10 with seasons 11 and 12 is harsh, because 9 & 10 were worse than 11 & 12. I HATE rating seasons, since you got some great eps (Behind the Laughter, EIEID'oh!) and some crappy eps (Kill the Alligator and Run, Bart to the Future). I'll just say I enjoyed most of Season 13, and I think Season 14 and 15 so far aren't as good as 13. Here's my list for Season 15 so far.
[all out of 5, of course]
- THOH VIV: 2
- My Mother the Carjacker: 4
- The President Wore Pearls: 3
- The Regina Monologues: 2.5
- The Fat and the Furriest: 2
- Today I Am a Clown: 3.5
- 'Tis the Fifteenth Season: 3.5

Also, above, don't list "Marge vs. [etc]" as a well-developed plot before it airs. And also also, I hope Snowball II doesn't get killed. That would be sad.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #313 on: 01-01-2004 16:38 »

 
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 -My Mother the Carjacker A+
-Tis the 15th Season A+

I haven't seen any of Season 15, so I can't judge. But Wow, two A+'s! Some of these new eps must really be something...

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« Reply #314 on: 01-02-2004 13:22 »

Didn't you read the descriptipon of 'I
 (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot'
it says Marge and Lisa are UNDER THE IMPRESSION that snowball II went to kitty heaven
FishyJoe

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« Reply #315 on: 01-02-2004 14:51 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
Al jean said on a commentarie that new shows have been cut down by fox to squeeze in more adverts, which means there's not really time for a B-Story,which is whys they have the story that connects in an obscure way at the beginning

That makes no sense. If they have less time, you'd think they would try and jump into the story as quickly as possible, instead of beginning with seven minutes of nothingness.
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« Reply #316 on: 01-02-2004 19:16 »

No you fucking moron (Sorry venting frusrtation from something else) There's no B-story so instead they have the 5 minute of irrlervant opening story as opposed to perhaps an 9 minute B story
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #317 on: 01-02-2004 19:24 »

Which commentary?
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« Reply #318 on: 01-02-2004 19:33 »

Somewhere on season 3 I'm sure of it
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« Reply #319 on: 01-02-2004 19:56 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
There's no B-story so instead they have the 5 minute of irrelevant opening story as opposed to perhaps an 9 minute B story

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
If they have less time, you'd think they would try and jump into the story as quickly as possible, instead of beginning with seven minutes of nothingness.

See, he wasn't disagreeing with you, he was disagreeing with FOX. What FishyJoe did there was post his opinion, and his opinion is that the irrelevant opening story thing doesn't make sense (which it doesn't).
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