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[Reply #200 on:]

I'm still personally against them removing Kane's mask. I'm sure they could have still turned him heel and had him fued with Shane if they really wanted him to but with out the mask he loses a certian misterious aura that he had before, and I just think that that detracts from his heat over all. If he looked like a burned up monster with out the mask I might think different, but he just looks like an escaped mental paient, whose hair they shaved off so he wouldn't get lice the way the have him looking now.

[Reply #201 on:]

Ditto.

The mask & his whole 'burnt alive' gimmick WAS Kane.

[Reply #202 on:]

Yes, it WAS Kane. But it was discovered later that the burns and scars on Kane were emotional ones that only he could see.

He IS a mental patient. You guys don't understand, this isn't the same god damned Kane we have been watching do the same old fire thing in the same old WWE anymore! Now he is a 7 foot unpredictable mental patient with a tempter that makes him snap at any time.

They haven't killed Kane, they have in fact, rebuilt him. They have brought back his unpredicability factor and his crazy monster-ness.

Sure they could put him in a feud with Shane or with RVD and turned him heel, but how many times have we seen that??? WWE knew that Kane was boring and old and that it was time for a change.

I think that now that he is out of that stupid Shane war, you will understand what an advantage this new gimmick has given him.

[Reply #203 on:]

I 'spose that the 'new' Kane is good. Just as theres still 'Inferno' matches 

Why dont they ever have them anymore? Legal issues?

[Reply #204 on:]

 

Originally posted by Coop:
Yes, it WAS Kane. But it was discovered later that the burns and scars on Kane were emotional ones that only he could see.

He IS a mental patient. You guys don't understand, this isn't the same god damned Kane we have been watching do the same old fire thing in the same old WWE anymore! Now he is a 7 foot unpredictable mental patient with a tempter that makes him snap at any time.

They haven't killed Kane, they have in fact, rebuilt him. They have brought back his unpredicability factor and his crazy monster-ness.

Sure they could put him in a feud with Shane or with RVD and turned him heel, but how many times have we seen that??? WWE knew that Kane was boring and old and that it was time for a change.

I think that now that he is out of that stupid Shane war, you will understand what an advantage this new gimmick has given him.

That may be true, but another one of my biggest problems with him not being physically burnt is because people who have been close to him in the past (X-Pac, Torrie etc.) have made reference to his burnt face. I understand Bearer lying to him about the burns being physical so he'd think he was a monster, but why would his own friends do it?

[Reply #205 on:]

 

Originally posted by newhook_1:
  That may be true, but another one of my biggest problems with him not being physically burnt is because people who have been close to him in the past (X-Pac, Torrie etc.) have made reference to his burnt face. I understand Bearer lying to him about the burns being physical so he'd think he was a monster, but why would his own friends do it?

Well, I'll answer that with another question, why the hell did Katie Vick take her 7 foot burn victim friend to a party? And how could Kane have had the accident if he was in an institution his whole life?

Lets face it, the WWE writers are pretty damned stupid. They make all kinds of continuity errors, lol. There are plenty just like the one you mentioned.

[Reply #206 on:]

Yeah I know, that's part of the reason why the ratings are down the shitter right now (only a part of it mind you). Hey wait, isn't Stephine McMan one of the head writers? That would explain alot. They should put Haymen in charge of writing things.

[Reply #207 on:]

@Coop: I agree.   


Anyway, hasnt X-Pac moved over to TNA Wrestling? I think I saw him in the Royal Rumble match on the weekend, but I'm not sure.

[Reply #208 on:]

 

Originally posted by newhook_1:
...Hey wait, isn't Stephine McMahon one of the head writers? That would explain alot. They should put Haymen in charge of writing things.

...Or bring back Vince Russo. 

[Reply #209 on:]

Bite your toungue Melllvar, the latst thing WWF needs is skinny Vinny hanging around again, ha ha.

But seriously, they would do well to invest in a continuity checker.

Hey, I'm a librarian, and I follow wrestling for years and years.

*Dashes off resume to Vince*

[Reply #210 on:]

Doesn't matter. All the writers are just yes men for Vince. The real man pushing the pencil is Vince Mcmahon.

Paul Heyman used to be on the writing team and took smackdown to new heights. Ratings have gone up since he has been on TV. Face it Vince..people want Heyman!

Vince is waaaaaay too stupid to ever see something like that though.

[Reply #211 on:]

Most people find Paul to be annoying on screen - off screen, he's a good writer.   

[Reply #212 on:]

I think he's a great announcer, I'd imagine that most people disagree with me though. He did a very good job at putting guys over as a heel announcer a few years back.

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Originally posted by Coop:
Paul Heyman used to be on the writing team and took smackdown to new heights. Ratings have gone up since he has been on TV. Face it Vince..people want Heyman!

I remember marking out hugely when Heyman appeared at RAW as the color commentator. I can't remember a time when I genuinely was positively surprised by something the WWF did.

Heyman's burned too many bridges to ever get much backstage power again. I think Vince is only keeping him on payroll to keep him out of the hands of TNA or another fed.

 

Originally posted by Coop:
Lets face it, the WWE writers are pretty damned stupid. They make all kinds of continuity errors, lol. There are plenty just like the one you mentioned.

Heck, they don't even know if Kane or the Undertaker are undead or what. Hey, they don't even know if they're on friendly terms at any given point.

[Reply #214 on:]

True dat Evan. Vince likes to buy up all the good talent and missuse them. But the money keeps them from become a neusence in another company.

[Reply #215 on:]

Hey Coop I got another question about the new game....in the Royal Rumble can you leave the ring at all....?
And can you use weapons in the rumble....?
That would be cool....crawling under the bottom rope and smacking the crap out of people running into the ring 

Getting back to the Undertaker....who didn't love his dead man gimmick....he was unbeatable for so many years....I don't think he lost a match until Mankind came along....?

True it did get stale knowing that he wasn't going to lose but was still great to watch....
I'd love to see him go back to the old gimmick, I've never really liked the whole biker thing....I didn't like finding out he was human after all....

[Reply #216 on:]

 

Originally posted by Gleno:
Getting back to the Undertaker....who didn't love his dead man gimmick....he was unbeatable for so many years....I don't think he lost a match until Mankind came along....?

His first lost was to Hogan at SS 92, I think. After Taker won the belt at Tuesday Night in Texas.

And, if you think that an "all-poweful Taker" is a good thing, check out his matches from 1994. Royal Rumble 94, where Yokozuna and 10 heels "kill" him through SummerSlam 94 where he fights his evil twin. Ugh.

[Reply #217 on:]

Nah, royal rumble has only gotten worse. Its so easy to just accidentally fly out.

[Reply #218 on:]

When last year's Smackdown was released, there was a thing inside the case with a link to a website where gamers could vote on what aspects they liked about the games, and what they didn't....so they could be improved....

So the next game was supposed to be made "by gamers, for gamers"
I guess they didn't listen....

[Reply #219 on:]

Well, I dont know about that. They certainly did try.

They is 32 CAW slots man, we asked for more.
They got EC. The only REAL problem with this game is that they finish all the models, so the roster isnt updated.

[Reply #220 on:]

Coop did you unlock that backstage area with the helecopter and lightpole and stuff yet? I was a friend's house the other day and we had a blast playing a hardcore match in that area.

[Reply #221 on:]

Yeah, thats times square. Its the best unlockable area ever!

On the same note, I have been playing my favorite wrestling game of all time lately. Wrestlemania 2000. I'm even starting a website about it. My CAWs are top notch in that game, you give me a person and I can probably make them.

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Originally posted by Coop:
  He quit to play music with his band and to get away from the hectic schedule.

He later apeared in Ring of Honor(a small east coast wrestling promotion) and was heckled with chants of "You got fired" and "We want Matt." Needless to say he is pretty hated for reasons unknown.

So he has given up wrestling for awhile, and now he is only focusing on music.

Now who do I groupie for! Im reduced to Brock Leasner ewww he looks like a marshmallow!

[Reply #223 on:]

The term is *mark for* lol.

And there's still Matt! V1 was great on SD! there are no major feuds for him on RAW, so why put him there?

[Reply #224 on:]

Matt Hardy is a Jackass.

[Reply #225 on:]

Your insight intruges me and I would like to join your religon.

Was anyone else disapointed when Mick Foley didn't wrestle on RAW Monday night? I know they're probably building up to some big climax in the storyline, but it would have been nice to see him step between the ropes one more time. He's one of the all time greats.

[Reply #226 on:]

I was disappointed, but I thnk the end angle was really well done, so I don't know whether I loved that or hated it.

[Reply #227 on:]

I think that whatever it is, it will work out with Foley returning to the ring. As well as the Rock, who I am really hoping will come back.

I was so happy when HBK won CLEAN last night. It was so awsome. He still has it.

[Reply #228 on:]

Heck yeah.  And I heard Foley will be at Wrestlemania XX with The Rock in a tag match against Randy Orton and someone else.

[Reply #229 on:]

Well, that's all speculation at this point you know, don't want to know ahead of time. Though plenty of rumors are swirling around about the acctual matches at WM XX.

Rumor has it that Angle vs Flair may be in the works. I for one would be very happy to see that match take place.

[Reply #230 on:]

That would be something to see.

[Reply #231 on:]

The crowd popped big for Rock and Foley on their Raw return, I'd love to see Rock 'N' Sock Connection go at it one last time.

[Reply #232 on:]

I think that they just popped for the Rock, hes just one of those guys.

Thats what all of these non-wrestling fans don't understand. If you watched RAW, and you saw the Rock or if you have ever been to a live event and seen him there you will understand. Wrestling IS his true calling. Yes, he's a great actor, but the way he connects with the fans and the way they hang on every second of Rock on screen, its unparalleled by any WWE superstar I have ever seen. Because when Rock is on the screen, he brings back that live element where anything is possible.

Thats why I refuse to accept all this "Rock has got a real job" nonsense that I have heard going around.

And yet I feel robbed...his semi retirement has just proven these people right. No one knows if he will ever return to the ring or not. I hate to have to share the Rock with non-wrestling fans, but it looks like all of us wrestling fans have to for a while.   

[Reply #233 on:]

Yeah I also read somewhere that Rock originally got into wrestling so he could become famous, and then get into movies....
What a load, it tells in his autobiography how and why he became a wrestler....

Anyway I think he's a good actor....

[Reply #234 on:]

Eric Bischoff, Paul Heyman sucks and Brock Lesnar is sick WWE Champion.
 

[Reply #235 on:]

 

Originally posted by Gleno:
Yeah I also read somewhere that Rock originally got into wrestling so he could become famous, and then get into movies.... 
What a load, it tells in his autobiography how and why he became a wrestler....

Anyway I think he's a good actor....

Yeah, but he will get tired of it soon. It's impossible to deny that his true talent is in the ring. Like I said, the proof is there every time he sets foot into an arena.


And Brock Lesner is a great WWE champion. I think that he is probably the best big guy WWE has had ever.

[Reply #236 on:]

Evolution(Triple H, Ric Flair, Batista and Randy Orton) sucks with or without WWE gold!

[Reply #237 on:]

La Resistance Sucks!

[Reply #238 on:]

Stephanie McMahon was a better General Manager of WWE SmackDown! then Paul Heyman!

[Reply #239 on:]

 

Originally posted by Coop:
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And Brock Lesner is a great WWE champion.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that. Though, I did like when Triple-H were the champ several times, but he didnt keep it together as long as Lesner. But thats just me, I liked D-Generation X with all members with HHH. Though HHH shouldnt really have the belt without some consideration for the other wrestlers.

I'd like to see Hardcore Holly get the belt off Lesner, that'd be great but would most likely call upset with storylines. Whatever happened to the Hardcore Belt - last I saw of it was with Vince handing it over to Foley, but I didnt catch the rest of the story.