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« Reply #40 on: 10-28-2003 12:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
How can you mention Gene Wilder and forget Blazing Saddles?


You can't. His role in that movie was mentioned in my post (12 up the page from this one) two weeks ago.  Great movie.

FilthyCrab

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« Reply #41 on: 10-28-2003 14:51 »

I'd already heard about this remake and had already set my expectations to "LOW"

I'm curious to see what he does, but I don't expect to be delighted.  It ain't gonna be a kids show anymore, that much you can depend on.
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« Reply #42 on: 10-28-2003 23:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
There will NEVER be a better version than the one with Gene Wilder. So they shouldn't even try.

I'll disagree, Kryten.

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Squeezit

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« Reply #43 on: 10-29-2003 00:31 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
I agree. The original was actually "good" and I don't see why they need to remake it. Unless Willy Wonka actually molests and eats children in the new one... That'd be cloolsome

Bwahahahhaha, that movie you described would indeed receive my full endorsement.

Especially if an Oompa Loompa was used to aide in aforementioned acts of depravity.

Oompa Loompa doobidie doo, undo my fly, there's a present for you. . .

LAN.gnome

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« Reply #44 on: 10-29-2003 01:00 »

Is the rumor about Marilyn Manson being involved in this project (I think as Wonka himself) true? Or was that Cat in the Hat?

I know I heard something about him appearing in the remake of some children's story.
VelourFog

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« Reply #45 on: 10-29-2003 21:47 »

sounds like a rumor to me
OC_James

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« Reply #46 on: 10-29-2003 21:49 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
Is the rumor about Marilyn Manson being involved in this project (I think as Wonka himself) true? Or was that Cat in the Hat?

I know I heard something about him appearing in the remake of some children's story.

I believe it was Cat in the Hat, in which case it would be false. Mike Meyers has already been casted to play the Cat in the hat.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #47 on: 10-29-2003 22:44 »

 
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Originally posted by OC_James:
 I believe it was Cat in the Hat, in which case it would be false. Mike Meyers has already been casted to play the Cat in the hat.

Now I'm scared...
winna

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« Reply #48 on: 10-29-2003 23:26 »

Mike Myers doesn't look that scary.  Anyways Oompa Loompa porn sounds interesting, I'll pick up the tickets...  Also It's my belief that the Chocolate Factory stands for HELL, and that at the end Charlie realizes his soul is DAMNed and that he has to spend an eternity with Gen... Johnny Depp.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #49 on: 10-29-2003 23:57 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
Mike Myers doesn't look that scary.
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Also It's my belief that the Chocolate Factory stands for HELL, and that at the end Charlie realizes his soul is DAMNed and that he has to spend an eternity with Gen... Johnny Depp.

So you're saying you haven't read "Willy Wonka and the Great Glass Elevator"?

I saw a poster for Cat in the Hat in a movie theater recently, and DAMN IT that was a scary costume Mike Meyers was in. That movie will give young children nightmares.
David A

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« Reply #50 on: 11-01-2003 02:26 »

Hey, I'm Tim Burton!  I'm too lazy to come up with original ideas anymore, so now I just make crappy remakes of classic films that don't need to be remade.  I already did a remake of Planet of the Apes.  Perhaps you've seen it?  I cast Marky Mark as the Chuck Heston character!  Wasn't that clever of me?  What can I do next?  Oh, I know!  I think I'll ruin Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
phoenixie

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« Reply #51 on: 11-01-2003 18:41 »

When my film geek friend & i heard of this remake, that was exactly our attitude david A. He already butchered Planet of the Apes, & as was previously mentioned sometimes Burton is more focused on the visual effects & not the plot or the acting.

i'm going to stick with the original. Not even Depp can replace Wilder imo. & i wont even waste my time with yet another 're-make' of any movie.
OC_James

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« Reply #52 on: 11-01-2003 18:45 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 18:45 »

Dammit, it's not a remake of the goddamned "Willy Wonka and the Fucking Chocolate Factory". Are you people not literate?! It's based on the novel, you know, a book. It's rectangular and has paper and text? They are just...they're the greatest. You can even use them as fans if you get tired of reading.

EDIT: And can people please quit using "imo" or "imho"?! It's the most pointless and interruptive abbreviation the internet has spawned.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #53 on: 11-01-2003 18:55 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 18:55 »

 
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Originally posted by OC_James:
Dammit, it's not a remake of the goddamned "Willy Wonka and the Fucking Chocolate Factory". Are you people not literate?! It's based on the novel, you know, a book. It's rectangular and has paper and text?

And I wonder what the fuck the original movie of Chocolate Factory was based on. Surely not the novel by Roald Dahl? It's all a coincidence isn't it... of course it is, nobody would do a movie that happens to have the same name and characters as a book...

It's a remake of the movie. Note the fantastic use of the word 're' in 'remake'. As in doing something over again. He's not rewriting the book, OC.
OC_James

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« Reply #54 on: 11-01-2003 19:03 »

Ah, but you see, the original movie did not follow the story as closely as it should have and let's face it, it was overrated. It had horrible songs that would be slightly more catchy if the people singing it had musical talent, poor acting with the exception of Gene Wilder, and it relied on visual effects a little too much too.
Can anyone say, overrated?
Just because you choose to make a movie based on a book and there has already been a movie based on the book doesn't mean your movie is a remake of the book.
For example, the new live-action Jungle Book is not a remake of the Disney Jungle Book is it? Anyone with a single ounce of movie knowledge will tell you "No, the new live-action Jungle Book movie is not a remake of the cartoon or of the old 30's (or maybe the 40's or 50's) Jungle Book movie".
BAM!
phoenixie

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« Reply #55 on: 11-01-2003 19:13 »

oh well i'm just so sorry i have offended ye, your royal highness, oc.
i am quite literate, but fail to see how tim burton will make this movie based on the book when i read in a newsstand magazine at the grocers that this is a remake Of The Movie.
i can say overrated. i say it all the time when someone else mentions the matrix.
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« Reply #56 on: 11-01-2003 19:15 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 19:15 »

Is the new Lord of the Rings trilogy a remake of The Lord of the Rings of Bakshi? No way.
I agree with OC_James.
I also agree with phoenixie that The Matrix is extremely overrated.

OC_James

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« Reply #57 on: 11-01-2003 19:24 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 19:24 »

 
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Originally posted by phoenixie:
oh well i'm just so sorry i have offended ye, your royal highness, oc.
i am quite literate, but fail to see how tim burton will make this movie based on the book when i read in a newsstand magazine at the grocers that this is a remake Of The Movie.
i can say overrated. i say it all the time when someone else mentions the matrix.

The Matrix is overrated, but that's a different thread. I've read from numerous sources (including Tim Burton) that the new film is based on the novel and not the original movie. Hmmm...maybe the fact that the new movie is called "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" opposed to "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" is a clue.


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phoenixie

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« Reply #58 on: 11-01-2003 19:30 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 19:30 »

i'm still not wasting my time on it.
whether it is a 'new' movie or not. & i'll trust my sources on this for now, which is myself remembering the article i read & not trust someone on the internet attempting to make me look dumb.
Film geeks are so intolerable sometimes, hell most of the time...  :D
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« Reply #59 on: 11-01-2003 19:50 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 19:50 »

   
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
Nightmare Before Christmas--sexually suggestive?

My brain is exploding

I love that movie--and although I never really saw it as something sexually suggestive, I'm not altogether opposed to sexually suggestive things     ;).
yeah, seriously, what the hell was that about? it was fucking weird, in a good way, but . . . .

  :confused:
David A

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« Reply #60 on: 11-01-2003 20:35 »

Yeah James, we get it.  It's not a remake of the old film, it's based on the book.

So what?

It doesn't make any difference if Tim Burton is making an adaptation of a book or a remake of a film.  The fact is that he's gotten lazy, and he doesn't make anything original anymore.  I used to really like Tim Burton.  He's done a lot of great stuff.  I even forgave him for making that movie where Batman was played by Mr. Mom.  But it just seems like he doesn't care anymore.
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #61 on: 11-01-2003 23:02 »

There's a lot of buzz for his new movie, Big Fish. Experts say it has Oscar potential and that it could land Tim Burton his first Oscar nomination.
BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #62 on: 11-02-2003 02:44 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
It doesn't make any difference if Tim Burton is making an adaptation of a book or a remake of a film.  The fact is that he's gotten lazy, and he doesn't make anything original anymore.
Though it's very much a revisionist film, Tim has been working for the past decade to get The Corpse Bride made.  It is loosely based on a folktale, but he had Caroline Thompson (Edward Scissorhands, Nightmare Before Christmas) pen the script.  She's an excellent writer, and I have a feeling she will dramatically distort the simple plot (After all, ES can easily be seen as a revisionist Frankenstein).  Tim will not be directing the film, but he will produce, as he did with Nightmare and James and the Giant Peach.  Perhaps it may not be entirely original, but it is not as though he was handed the script or asked to direct.  And you can bet he's going to take the story of a dead bride and transform it into something heart-warmingly macabre, as he does for every film of his.  He pursued this project for years and Warner Bros. has finally approved it (Production is scheduled to begin in London this month).  So anyone who claims he isn't "involved" in his own ideas anymore is either misinformed or ignorant, whichever you prefer.
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