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BumbleBeeTheta
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I'm really looking forward to it. I wasn't a fan of the original film because it seemed overly child-friendly. The book was pretty disturbing for some children, and the movie actually scared me (I thought I would turn into a blueberry as a little kid). I'm a HUGE Burton and Depp fan, and I see Depp as drawing from Benny & Joon and Pirates of the Caribbean for his role, but he always comes up with great character combinations (Donald Rumsfeld and Snoopy's brother Spike, anyone?). I'm eagerly anticipating this film, but I think I'm more looking forward to Burton's The Corpse Bride, which is also due out in 2005 ( Wonka supposedly comes out in summer '05, with Corpse Bride set for October). I love stop-motion films, and the folktale it is based on is one of my favorite stories (though the ending is really lame). I'm sure Caroline Thompson's script will put a nice twist on the tale.
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Scythemantis
Crustacean
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Aw, burton is great (so is edward scizzorhands)...and the original movie wasn't very faithful to the book anyway. If ANYONE should do this it's him.
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moonbus69
Bending Unit
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"You go, Homer Jay!" As much I enjoyed Batman and Edward Scissorhands, just can't picture ANY remake of Willy Wonka movie. So in the coming years, we can expect 90% of new movies to be remakes?! Kinda seems we're heading there really fast.
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Mr. Potter
Professor
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I've been satisfied everytime Burton and Depp work together. I think this one will be good, also.
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ShineFusion
Professor
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If Charlie and the chocolate factory fails to impress we'll still have Burton's upcoming film Big Fish to dazzle us.
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Asylum-Fry
Liquid Emperor
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Speaking of Edward Scissorhands... one of my friends tried to explain it to me after we watched it. So... Eddie invented snow by making a giant ice sculpture? And why was there a cliched, foreboding dark castle at the top of a hill next to an infinite suburb? Who in their right mind would give Eddie scissors for hands first, and then wait to give him some plastic hands after? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS MOVIE?
Digressing, digressing...
Any time someone has made a movie out of a book, it's different. Fact of life. You can't suddenly demand a word-for-word movie of a book, it has never happened before. Unfortunately, if Burton makes Willy Wonka as disturbing as he did with Edward Scissorhands, and if he leaves out the tunnel scene (my favorite part and song, damn it), I will be horribly disappointed.
There's nothing I can do to stop them making the movie, but all I know is that it will be a letdown for me. No amazing show of special effects, or new actors, will make me think more highly of it than the original.
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OC_James
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #17 on: 10-11-2003 19:07 »
« Last Edit on: 10-11-2003 19:07 »
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry: Speaking of Edward Scissorhands... one of my friends tried to explain it to me after we watched it. So... Eddie invented snow by making a giant ice sculpture? And why was there a cliched, foreboding dark castle at the top of a hill next to an infinite suburb? Who in their right mind would give Eddie scissors for hands first, and then wait to give him some plastic hands after? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS MOVIE?
I can understand where Edward Scissorhands could be confusing to some people, I had to explain to a few of my friends who loved the movie but just didn't get it, that it was a commentary of how superficial our society is and how people who act, think, and look differently are treated. Edward isn't the monster in that movie, the suburbanites are. Some parts don't make sense because Burton wanted to make it a modern day fairy tale, and if you look at most fairy tales they usualy have off-the-wall things as well. Any time someone has made a movie out of a book, it's different. Fact of life. You can't suddenly demand a word-for-word movie of a book, it has never happened before. Unfortunately, if Burton makes Willy Wonka as disturbing as he did with Edward Scissorhands, and if he leaves out the tunnel scene (my favorite part and song, damn it), I will be horribly disappointed. I don't like most book-to-movie movies either, but the original "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory", which you praised in your first post, wasn't true to the book either, yet it's good. There's nothing I can do to stop them making the movie, but all I know is that it will be a letdown for me. No amazing show of special effects, or new actors, will make me think more highly of it than the original. Tim Burton doesn't try to dazzle us with special effects and he certainly doesn't cast tons of familiar celebrities (Johnny Depp really got into films because of Burton, even though he had been in a couple of other movies), he only uses SFX when perfectly necessary. Burton relies mainly on storyline and the relationships between his characters, he's not going to try to cater to the mainstream media with this movie. I'm looking forward to it.
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Coop
Professor
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Thats great, they are going to remake and ruin a classic film. I hope it gets horrible reviews.
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Asylum-Fry
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Coop: Thats great, they are going to remake and ruin a classic film. I hope it gets horrible reviews.
I second that, Coop. Also, Squeezit, was THAT what the movie was about? Making snow... as though there never had been any before... I found that by the end I wasn't sure what the point was.
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Squeezit
Bending Unit
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Well that's why I brought up the point of myths--myths assume that something never existed before whatever occurence caused it to exist. And no, I don't think the whole point of that movie was Tim Burton's way of saying "this is how snow was made." The snow thing just tied into the little girl being told a story about where snow came from. I always thought the point was more about how people can react so harshly to people that are different--either by a disability or from being gifted. And about jealousy and misunderstanding and avon ladies. I dunno, I just like it. I REALLY don't see Johnny Depp in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Seriously. I mean, Depp is awesome, but he just ain't no Willy Wonka. Guess I'll just have to wait and seeeeeeee
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grunka_lunka
Delivery Boy
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tim burton's work has always struck me as very inconsistent. sometimes i think he lets his visual style overtake the movie itself (i. e. planet of the apes, mars attacks, batman), resulting in a mediocre movie that's skimpy on plot details. but other times, he blends and balances it out quite nicely, inserting enough charm to make it work. a nightmare before christmas, for example, is my personal favorite; i loved beetlejuice, sleepy hollow, and edward scissorhands (which brings me to my next point about how talented johnny depp is, though i've yet to see ed wood).
a willy wonka movie from tim burton would probably be extremely stylized, but depp could add enough charm to pull it off. it'll probably be a hell of a lot weider than the original (and that's saying something).
as great as gene wilder's performance was, johnny depp could probably do a fine job of capturing that childlike innocence. and who knows? he may try for something completely different.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry: DEAR GOD NO!
How in all of hell can they think of remaking a movie starring my favorite actor of all time, Gene Wilder!? UNTHINKABLE!
Wow, you and Kryten like Gene too? I loved his classic laste 70' early 80's comedy stuff. And Young Frankenstein.
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Squeezit
Bending Unit
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Nightmare Before Christmas--sexually suggestive? My brain is exploding I love that movie--and although I never really saw it as something sexually suggestive, I'm not altogether opposed to sexually suggestive things . How can you mention Gene Wilder and forget Blazing Saddles? Ohhh man Beetlejuice is the best movie ever. I love Tim Burton. Sure he's had his flops, but Beetlejuice makes up for any of them.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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*Falls on his keyboard in shame for forgetting blazing sadles*
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