Pixar movies

[Reply #280 on:]

I think Pixar is losing that special magic each of their films has, either that, or I'm growing up.

I completely disagree. I think that their film concepts are getting more and more complex -they've exhausted the simple "here's a superhero movie, here's a movie about fish, here's a movie about bugs" premises. Films like 'Up' are far from this simplicity and for my money, 'Up' is Pixar's 2nd best film after 'Toy Story'.
'Cars 2' was poor, but they were overdue for a swing and a miss.

And yeah, 'Toy Story 3' was excellent, too.

[Reply #281 on:]

Four people voted Cars?! I don't want to live on this forum any more.

[Reply #282 on:]

Yesterday Finding Nemo had no votes, then I presume SpaceGoldfish fromWazn voted for it, but now there's another one. Who was that? ...

[Reply #283 on:]

Four people voted Cars?! I don't want to live on this forum any more.

But no one voted Cars 2, that has to count for something.

Yesterday there was a movie preview thing on whatever channel my dad was watching and it sounded like they were making a sequel to Up with more action and I got really pissed. But it was actually just an ad for Up.

[Reply #284 on:]

Four people voted Cars?! I don't want to live on this forum any more.

But no one voted Cars 2, that has to count for something.

Although I only added it to the poll relatively recently and a lot of people had already voted at that point. I'd like to think that none of them would have voted for Cars 2 given the chance, but I'm not going to give them that chance and find out. The less votes it has, the more faith I have in life...

[Reply #285 on:]

Well, damn. Wish I hadn't voted forever ago. I'd have voted Cars 2 just to ruffle feathers.

[Reply #286 on:]

   Four people voted Cars?! I don't want to live on this forum any more.

I did. 

Even though I'm not from the USA and aren't particularly into car racing (Nascar?) Cars was my undisputed favourite Pixar movie till Wall•E was released. Now I struggle to choose between the two but I voted for Cars for sentimental reasons.

[Reply #287 on:]

I've only seen Toy Story and A Bug's Life so I'll go with TS. Ants being terrorized by grasshoppers is dumb. I like my childrens movies to be super realistic!

[Reply #288 on:]

Wow you've only seen Toy Story and A Bug's Life? I kinda thought everyone had seen at least most of the Pixar movies. Nothing wrong if you haven't, but just kinda a bit surprised is all...

[Reply #289 on:]

Wow you've only seen Toy Story and A Bug's Life? I kinda thought everyone had seen at least most of the Pixar movies. Nothing wrong if you haven't, but just kinda a bit surprised is all...

Same here... I mean, you haven't seen Monsters, Inc.?!

[Reply #290 on:]

I apologize for nothing!
Nah, havent seen Monsters Inc. Honestly, I like the old Disney movies still, but I can't sit through a whole Pixar type of movie. I still watch The Last Unicorn cuz it's so great and weird.

[Reply #291 on:]

i would like to see a pixar move in the vein of the phantom tollbooth... but Brave does look kewl from what little we've seen of it so far.

[Reply #292 on:]

Having finally seen Cars 2, I can happily state that Pixar does not make sequels unless they can be even better than the original film. I don't get why people think it's so terrible (apart from the incessant merchandising, maybe). My issue regarding the lack of any biological life forms was entirely assuaged by the expansion of their fictional world. Sure, it's built upon a solid foundation of fridge logic, but somehow, it works.

It surprised me how dark the film was, though. Three explicit deaths (not counting the probable deaths not directly indicated), two within the first five minutes and the third practically on screen.

[Reply #293 on:]

The one where they strap that car down and you see him blow up in the reflection was pretty brutal for a kid's film...

[Reply #294 on:]

And it was Bruce Campbell!

[Reply #295 on:]

Just saw the trailer for Brave, really don't like the looks of it, and I got a super Dreamworks vibe from the trailer alone... Toy Story 3 may have been the last good film Pixar have made.

Still, I'm looking forward to Monsters University.

[Reply #296 on:]

I wish Pixar would stop wasting their time with shit like Brave. I don't think Toy Story 3 will be their last good movie though, it was excellent, and as you say there's always Monsters University. I also have high hopes for that movie they're making about dinosaurs...

[Reply #297 on:]

Both the dinosaur film and their film set inside the human mind sound like they're going to be excellent.

But I do think 'Brave' looks like another dud... as recently stated in the upcoming films thread.

And the jury is still out regarding 'Monsters University'.


Also, 'The Incredibles 2' will almost certainly happen one day under Brad Bird's watch and that's pretty much guaranteed to be fantastic.

[Reply #298 on:]

Also, 'The Incredibles 2' will almost certainly happen one day under Brad Bird's watch and that's pretty much guaranteed to be fantastic.

I wish I has your confidence with that matter, I mean Brad Bird doesn't seem to be interested in it. I'd love for it to happen, and the ending to the first one is practically begging for it. Pixar have too much respect to make it without Brad Bird, which is good, but it doesn't solve the problem of Brad Bird not being arsed ...

[Reply #299 on:]

He's always said he'll come back to it when he has a storyline worthy of the first one figured out.

And whilst doing press for 'Mission: Impossible - Awkwardly Punctuated Title' he said he had a big scrap-book of things that he was saving up for a sequel - ideas, bits that didn't fit into the first film, and so forth. He said something along the lines of him being about half-way there with regards to cracking the storyline for it.

So yeah, I think he's definitely interested in doing it and he probably will one day after he's had some time to try other things out.

[Reply #300 on:]

Toy Story. Fabulous. Lovable. Groundbreaking. Incredible. I could say all these things about the movie that literally changed animation. It was quite entertaining to add to that too!

[Reply #301 on:]

And whilst doing press for 'Mission: Impossible - Awkwardly Punctuated Title' he said he had a big scrap-book of things that he was saving up for a sequel - ideas, bits that didn't fit into the first film, and so forth. He said something along the lines of him being about half-way there with regards to cracking the storyline for it.

I never knew that. That is quite encouraging at least. Who knows when that'll be, but I guess good is better than rushed...

[Reply #302 on:]

BRAVE trailer 2

Looks like a scene from the actual movie to me.

[Reply #303 on:]

I'm still unsure about this movie. I think the accents are annoying for some reason, which is odd because I typically like foreign accents. I agree with you Bend-err, but some of that clip (it IS a clip, NOT a trailer. because Pixar posted it) has been in the trailers before. Small snippets, sure but it's been included.

[Reply #304 on:]

Being rather fond of archery, I have to say I'm impressed with the level of detail put into the flexing of the arrow. Although my aim is nowhere near as good as that.

[Reply #305 on:]

I don't know, it looks good to me from the few bits I've seen.  Pixar almost always puts out something good, so I give them the benefit of the doubt.  Personally, I'm glad the new movie isn't another sequel.

[Reply #306 on:]

You'll be sorely disappointed in 2013 then my friend.

[Reply #307 on:]

You'll be sorely disappointed in 2013 then my friend.

Monsters University? It's a prequel. I'm super looking forward to that.

Not sure about this unnamed Dinosaur one though, but the one that "takes you inside the mind" or whatever sounds promising.

[Reply #308 on:]

A prequel is a kind of sequel.

And the dinosaur project sounds like it has potential to be Pixar's best film to date.

[Reply #309 on:]

As I posted in the Upcoming Films thread:

In other news, Andrew Stanton has signed on to direct Finding Nemo 2. (Linky.)

[Reply #310 on:]

After the disaster that was John Carter, this is supposedly part of a deal Stanton has made with Disney in order to be given another shot at directing something live-action.

I'm really beginning to think that Pixar is going straight down the toilet. Cars 2 was terrible, Brave is meant to be so-so (I've not seen it yet, living in the UK), Monsters University is a terrible premise and an unwarranted continuation of the first film for which the trailer does nothing to convince me about and now this just sounds like yet another sub-par sequel. Finding Nemo was never one of Pixar's best efforts to begin with, either.

That said, I'm hugely anticipating The Good Dinosaur, the untitled inside-the-mind project and their Day of the Dead films.

[Reply #311 on:]

Perhaps telling when one article I saw about Finding Nemo 2 on the BBC wrote something along the lines of "...Pixar, which used to be known for being original..."

I don't know though, I still think Toy Story 3 was a fantastic film, so I think they can get away with sequels to a point. Never seen Cars 1 or 2 all the way through. I actually adored Finding Nemo as well. But yeah...don't know if churning out sequels is a good sign. It can't be that they've run out of ideas so I fear there's something else at work...

[Reply #312 on:]

Stop not having fun guys!

[Reply #313 on:]

1. Ratatouille (Makes me hungry, laugh, and ship for Linguini and Colette )
2. Monsters Inc (Funny and adorable, a classic)
3. The Incredibles (Have always loved this movie)
4. Up (Saddest intro ever, best characters I've ever seen in a long time)
5. Finding Nemo (Just a great movie, Ellen was hilarious in this)

And....

6. Wall-E (Great environmental message, hilarious and gives you a whole new outlook of Earth)

[Reply #314 on:]

I don't know though, I still think Toy Story 3 was a fantastic film, so I think they can get away with sequels to a point. Never seen Cars 1 or 2 all the way through. I actually adored Finding Nemo as well. But yeah...don't know if churning out sequels is a good sign. It can't be that they've run out of ideas so I fear there's something else at work...

I'm pretty sure that something else is Disney.

[Reply #315 on:]

Specifically El Presidente of Disney. It's a secretive dictatorship, I swear it. What is an executive board?

Terrible add-ons to comments aside, I thought Brave was decent enough. I'm not gonna rush to buy it on Blu-Ray the day of release, but I'm not going to bash it either. If the trailers hadn't mislead everyone I'm sure people wouldn't have walked away feeling as cheated. IMO it's still better than pretty much anything [CGI] DreamWorks makes/ has made.

@Zed: You have to be a car-lover or a child to really dig the Cars movies. The first one has a decent enough plot and morals and such if you can get around the premise of speaking autos. Cars 2 shouldn't have happened like it did (or, arguably at all) because it spent it's time divided as more or less two flicks until then ending which was so damn obvious it hurt. Had it just been a cliched spy car flick... it might've been stronger. Or weaker. Whatever. I just watch it to look at the pretty, cartoonish autos.

[Reply #316 on:]

Specifically El Presidente of Disney. It's a secretive dictatorship, I swear it. What is an executive board?

Terrible add-ons to comments aside...

    

Really, it's terrible to think that Pixar's large parent company has no influence on what projects get pushed forward?  And it's terrible to think Disney would prefer sure things (sequals) over riskier original stories?  That seems much more likely an explanation for the spate of upcoming sequels than Pixar has run out of good ideas.   Seems logical to me.

[Reply #317 on:]

I can't believe no one voted for the Brazilian classic and masterpiece, Ratatoing. 

[Reply #318 on:]

Specifically El Presidente of Disney. It's a secretive dictatorship, I swear it. What is an executive board?

Terrible add-ons to comments aside...

     

Really, it's terrible to think that Pixar's large parent company has no influence on what projects get pushed forward?  And it's terrible to think Disney would prefer sure things (sequals) over riskier original stories?  That seems much more likely an explanation for the spate of upcoming sequels than Pixar has run out of good ideas.   Seems logical to me.

Well, the market has supposedly been in a "slump" and simply "won't accept new material" so everyone's playing it safe in the industry and has chosen to expand their crappy franchises as opposed to making new material all together. It's a shame that even animation has fallen into such a rat trap. I'm certain Lasseter has his say in what can be made and what gets hit in the ass on the way out the window of opportunity but from stories I've heard about wonderful, original movies that never came to be at Disney... Well, it leads me to believe some good stuff is being shot down at Pixar as well to stick with familiarity regardless of what the people think in the studio as a group. Why else was Cars 2 made? Surely not to expand on the property. It was all for the merch. And perhaps because Lasseter loves autos so much he just had to have a sequel. all that being said, I don't mind a slew of sequels if they're warranted. And even if they aren't, if they're good then I can forgive them for it. It's just that so many sequels anymore don't live up to the first film, and it's a blatant cash grab (Ice Age 4, I'm looking at you). I do hope that Monsters University is a good flick because the first film was really good. I just personally never said to myself "Boy, I'd like to see this universe expanded." The one movie I thought could use a sequel is Incredibles. You simply cannot say there isn't another plot for a sequel to that.

[Reply #319 on:]

   It's just that so many sequels anymore don't live up to the first film, and it's a blatant cash grab (Ice Age 4, I'm looking at you).

Not to mention Happy Feet 2.