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PEE Poll: Best Star trek movie
The Motion Picture   -1 (2.5%)
The Wrath Of Khan   -15 (37.5%)
The Search For Spock   -0 (0%)
The Voyage Home   -9 (22.5%)
The Final Frontier   -0 (0%)
The Undiscovered Country   -2 (5%)
Generations   -0 (0%)
First Contact   -12 (30%)
Insurrection   -0 (0%)
Nemesis   -1 (2.5%)
Total Voters: 39

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« Reply #160 on: 01-23-2008 05:14 »
« Last Edit on: 01-27-2008 00:00 by coldangel_1 »

 
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I think the episode was called "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

I kept thinking "the future is yesterday", but I knew that wasn't right.


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« Reply #161 on: 01-27-2008 14:31 »
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Yeah, that's the new Starfleet uniforms. Who else thinks they're almost or as lame as The Motion Picture's jumpsuits?

Also: No Shatner because Kirk is dead? Translation: lame. There was a 3-movie story arc about Spock dying!
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« Reply #162 on: 01-27-2008 15:15 »

So they are destroying the continuity once again..

so in the end the colorful pijama uniforms would be simply a 5 year nosense from starfleet? and before / after that they were more tolerable?
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« Reply #163 on: 01-27-2008 16:15 »

What's with the Nazi hat?
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« Reply #164 on: 01-27-2008 16:54 »

 
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What's with the Nazi hat?

I was about to say Imperial uniform, but as they are loosely based on nazi uniforms  big grin

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« Reply #165 on: 01-27-2008 17:00 »

Oh God, I do hope that's not what they'll all be wearing...
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« Reply #166 on: 01-28-2008 04:08 »
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
Also: No Shatner because Kirk is dead? Translation: lame. There was a 3-movie story arc about Spock dying!

Apples and oranges.

Sure, some author by the name of William Shatner (oh, what a surprise!) wrote a Star Trek novel in which Kirk was resurrected after his death on Veridian III (damnit, why didn't they use the original version of Kirk's death in Generations?), but face it, Kirk was a Human and Spock is a Vulcan and they did make it quite clear that this whole resurrection thing was a 'one-time only' business.

Besides, has anybody looked at Shatner recently? Judging by his appearance on Boston Legal massive CGI trickery would be necessary to make him recognisable as Kirk...   tongue
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« Reply #167 on: 01-28-2008 06:59 »
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Hahahahaha aw, that's horrible... but kind of true. I've been watching TOS Season 3 after just watched BL Season 1, and, in some of the shots, he looks the same, but then, in others, he looks totally different. Sometimes I can't even recognize that TOS Kirk and movie Kirk are the same person. But, hey, what do you expect when somebody did TJ Hooker?!

I still want somebody more than just Spock. I definitely wouldn't mind Uhuru, Sulu, or Chekov, considering that two of those three are active in television on the same show! Hell, they could easily work in even a TNG-era character as Spock's trying to explain to them something about Kirk. I'd rather a flat TOS movie, but I wouldn't be complaining if they did that. It just seems like just Spock is not enough.
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« Reply #168 on: 01-28-2008 13:59 »
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I'm walking on thin ice here, but it seems to me that the story of the film begins somewhere in the TNG timeline, perhaps even after the events of Nemesis. Thus it's impossible to work in any other character than Spock, since he is not human, therefore it's easier to sell to the audience that he would be still alive some 100 years after the TOS era...

I do think that the use of the 'old' Spock is some sort of attempt to bring the franchise back to the 23rd century, after the previous film to place in the 24th century. One should consider the films and the TV shows to be separate entities, depsite that the films were basically the result of the TV shows.
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« Reply #169 on: 01-29-2008 10:48 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:

Yeah, that's the new Starfleet uniforms. Who else thinks they're almost or as lame as The Motion Picture's jumpsuits?

I love it when people are negative. I get to be cheerful and contrary at the same time!

That being said, the uniform looks almost the same as the TOS uniforms, except for the colour and the hat and the turtleneck. And since the individual in question appears to be female, the trousers would seem to be anomalous as well.

You know, if we don't end up liking this film, we can always disown it. You're talking to someone who doesn't believe the Trek is canon unless Spock is half Vulcanian.

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« Reply #170 on: 01-29-2008 12:06 »
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You know, if we don't end up liking this film, we can always disown it. You're talking to someone who doesn't believe the Trek is canon unless Spock is half Vulcanian.


Are you Gene Roddenberry's ghost? Or are you possessed by his katra? Because otherwise you won't be able to disown anything.   tongue
(And even when you are either his ghost or are influenced by his katra, you still wouldn't have anything to say about it. Sorry Gene.)

To be honest, I'm a bit sick of all this 'That's not part of the Star Trek canon!' talk. I do assume that this remark was rather meant to be a joke (am I right?), but I do find these remarks tiresome, regardless whether they are serious or not.
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« Reply #171 on: 01-29-2008 18:14 »

I wasn't so much declaring what was canon and what wasn't as much as clarifing what part of canon I actually held in any sort of regard.

As for what the 'canon' of any particular series actually is, that's a question of deep philosophy.  My sister could probably debate on with you for hours about it.
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« Reply #172 on: 01-29-2008 20:24 »
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If this movie sucks (which I think it very well might), I think we can safely trade its canon value for the Shatnerverse's. Kirk forever!
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« Reply #173 on: 01-29-2008 21:20 »

Star Trek prequels are always awesome. Look at Enterprise.
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« Reply #174 on: 01-29-2008 23:48 »

The ship itself was a sexy beast.
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« Reply #175 on: 01-31-2008 13:25 »

It was an inverted Akira  big grin
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« Reply #176 on: 01-31-2008 13:50 »

It's in my top 5 favorite Star Trek ships, possibly #3.

1. Sovereign-class vessel
2. Defiant-class
3. NX?  Akira?  Prometheus?
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« Reply #177 on: 01-31-2008 14:20 »

My favorite 5 ships:

1) Constitution Refit(Enterprise-A)
2) Defiant-class
3) Sovereign-class
4) Ambassador-Class (Enterprise-C)
5) Klingon Bird of Prey.
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« Reply #178 on: 01-31-2008 17:20 »

Ooh, Bird of Prey, I didn't even think of non-Federation vessels.  I  love the BoP.
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« Reply #179 on: 01-31-2008 17:26 »

I've only seen one Star Trek movie. I don't remember which one. I think there was snow?
An old neighbor man took me to see it when I was a kid, and he didn't even try to molest me...
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« Reply #180 on: 02-01-2008 01:04 »

 
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An old neighbor man took me to see it when I was a kid, and he didn't even try to molest me...

Don't take it personally - he was probably into girls.
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« Reply #181 on: 02-01-2008 08:22 »

And, if he's a Trekie, it's only Orion slaves.
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« Reply #182 on: 02-01-2008 14:40 »

My fav 5 trek Ships:

1- Soyuz class (USS Bozeman)

2- Excelsior class
3- Sovereign class
4- Galaxy refit (3 nacelle variant)


5- Doubtfull here, probably the Constitution refit.. but the Maqui attack ship was a sexy design as well.


Is curios that i really dont like the Galaxy class design.. (and i eated 7 seasons and one movie of TNG with it) its to me diss-proportioned.. a hell big saucer section attached to a small drive section with small nacelles (in comparison to the saucer).. the Nebula class using the same saucer is more proportioned to me... but in the Galaxy class something was off..too front heavy and butt light..
but adding that third nacelle and the front saucer  under stuff made it a hell lot cooler.. i love the Galaxy refit design.. the thrid nacelle makes it look more compensated .. is funny hoy only adding a nacelle and a bit of hardware in the front made the Galaxy look so diferent (and better to me)
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« Reply #183 on: 02-01-2008 17:02 »
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Favorite Federation Ships:

1. Constitution Refit
2. Sovereign Class
3. Prometheus
4. Defiant Class
5. NX Class

Favorite Alien Ships:
1. Klingon Bird of Prey
2. Romulan D'deridex
3. Romulan Scimitar (Nemesis)
4. Vulcan D'Kyr type (ENT)
5. Jem'Hadar Attack Ship
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« Reply #184 on: 02-01-2008 17:09 »
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3. Intrepid Class

I always thought it was funny that they gave a woman captain a ship named after a minivan and whose vessel class was named after a sedan.

I wonder if DaimlerChrysler sponsored Voyager at all.
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« Reply #185 on: 02-01-2008 17:21 »

1 Akira, hands down
2 Sovereign
3 Defiant
4 Prometheus

I was very dissapointed with the Intrepid. The nacelle design is just half-assed.

Non federation:
D'Deridex
Vor'Cha
Negh'Var (and the alternative universe equivalent, or was that the other one...)
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« Reply #186 on: 02-01-2008 17:40 »
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I'm taking a shine to the Steamrunner-class, Centaur-classNova-class,  and the Yeager-class as well.
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« Reply #187 on: 02-01-2008 17:55 »

(1)Constitution - Can't go past the original.
(2)Intrepid - I like the shape.
(3)Excelsior - What TNG should have used, instead of the overblown Galaxy class.
(4)D-12 Bird of Prey - rough and utilitarian, like my car.
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« Reply #188 on: 02-01-2008 17:56 »

 
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4 Prometheus

OH! DUH!!

I can't believe I mixed up Voyager and the Prometheus. My original post has been edited.
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« Reply #189 on: 02-01-2008 19:34 »

My top 5 designs are:

- Constitution class (refit)
- Steamrunner class
- Defiant class
- K't'inga/D7 class cruiser
- Borg Cube (seriously!)
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« Reply #190 on: 02-02-2008 07:54 »

the Yeafer is indeed cool..

the Rhode Island variant of the Nova class is also much better than the original Nova... its like someone polished the minor faults (IMHO)

So the ST movie will be told via flashbacks or are we going to see the Constition class in all its original glory (after seing it back in DS9)
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« Reply #191 on: 02-02-2008 13:21 »
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So the ST movie will be told via flashbacks or are we going to see the Constition class in all its original glory (after seing it back in DS9)

Sounds like you haven't seen the teaser yet.   big grin
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« Reply #192 on: 02-02-2008 13:54 »



How can anybody not love the lines of this ship?



Or this one?

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« Reply #193 on: 02-02-2008 20:33 »

In no particular order...
Defiant class
Akira class
Romulan Warbird

And nobody's mentioned one of my favorites...
Ferengi D'Kora class ships.
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« Reply #194 on: 02-02-2008 20:41 »

In no order...
Constitution Refit
Sovereign Class (for its body, but I much prefer the Galaxy's inside, especially its bridge comparatively)
Klingon Bird of Prey
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« Reply #195 on: 02-03-2008 08:34 »
« Last Edit on: 02-04-2008 00:00 »

Do we have a thread where one can list what one thinks are the greatest science-fiction ships of all time?

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« Reply #196 on: 02-03-2008 08:54 »

Eww, the Yeager clash? What a horrible kitbash.

I just realised I misspelled class, but in this caseI find it applicable so I'm not going to change it.
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« Reply #197 on: 02-03-2008 10:17 »

 
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  Sounds like you haven't seen the teaser yet.    big grin

i saw the "construction" teaser only.... but i readed somewhere that it will start in TNG time wich is quite confusing...
when i say "original glory" i mean we will se the Constitution as it was meant, a new powerfull class.. we saw it CGI in the DS9 episode but even there it was more nostalgic touch and the Defiant was nearby cloaked.. i wonder how they are going to make the original design work as a cool brand new powerfull convincing design and not a "60s rocket thing"


 
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Eww, the Yeager clash? What a horrible kitbash.

yeap it is...and i like it!  big grin  dont know why...maybe it shoud be more white and less colorfull but i love the design.. the Intrepid class is not bad but it has more or lss same problems as the Galaxy to me.. uncompensated looks
 
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« Reply #198 on: 02-03-2008 11:02 »

Spoilers?

So, who else thinks that Doohan's son is playing Welshy?
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« Reply #199 on: 02-03-2008 11:20 »

:reads: Oh, yeah, I'm almost certainly going to hate this movie. Dammit. It sound like something I would've entered into a "Worst Star Trek movie idea" contest. And if I were the judge, it probably would've won.
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