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PEE Poll: Best Star Trek the next generation feature length episode
Best Of Both Worlds   -11 (91.7%)
Redemption   -0 (0%)
Unification   -0 (0%)
Time's Arrow   -0 (0%)
Chain Of Command   -1 (8.3%)
Birthright   -0 (0%)
Descent   -0 (0%)
Gambit   -0 (0%)
All Good Things   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 12

davids

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« on: 09-30-2003 14:14 »

Pretty self explanitry. My favourite is easily the best of both worlds
CyberKnight

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« Reply #1 on: 09-30-2003 15:17 »

Best of Both Worlds, without a doubt. In my opinion the last of the great Borg episodes.

Although All Good Things is my favourite series finale.
Teral

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« Reply #2 on: 09-30-2003 16:10 »

"The Best Of Both Worlds", no contest. The Borg never looked scarier than they did at the end of BOBW I. They were the embodiment of badass coolness and sci-fi villany at that point. Then came "Descent" and Voyager.

Although "Chain Of Command" has a special place in my heart, for obvious reasons.  wink After the somewhat misguided start in "The Wounded" the Cardassians really solidifed themself as the new bad guys of the Trek univers in this one. Plus Jellico was a real breath of fresh air. Too bad they had to ship him back to the Cairo.

"All Good Things...." rank as the second-best series final of the franchise. Great stuff, very sci-fi-ish, plus Q was never better.

Would someone please just take "Gambit" out back and shoot it? And "Descent" too for that matter. "Birthright" get to live, if only for Data's story and Bashirs cameo.
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« Reply #3 on: 09-30-2003 16:15 »

I'd have to say "The Best of Both Worlds" because that's the best one.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #4 on: 09-30-2003 16:17 »

It's probably best if I don't say anything. Let's just say that I'm not very fond of Star Trek.
Tweek

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« Reply #5 on: 09-30-2003 16:25 »

Let's have a brief description of each, I'm sure I've seen them all more than once but with the exception of All Good Things I have no idea what they were about just from the titles.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #6 on: 09-30-2003 16:42 »

Am I right in thinking that "Chain of Command" is the classic episode with Picard and the lights?  wink

I'm not up to speed with TNG titles (Voyager episodes is another story  wink.

And Teral, you didn't call it V'Ger!  tongue

And if you think about it, there are really only two series finales; TOS never got one and "Endgame" doesn't count.  wink
Teral

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« Reply #7 on: 09-30-2003 16:52 »
« Last Edit on: 09-30-2003 16:52 »

That's because Endgame sucked. Well, not entirely, but it's a big piece of it.  wink

Re: Chain Of Command - "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!"

 
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And Teral, you didn't call it V'Ger!
I tried giving it a little ounce of respect. You know be the bigger man and all. Afterall I can afford it.   tongue

Teral

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« Reply #8 on: 09-30-2003 17:12 »

Double post, but so be it.

 
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Originally posted by Tweek:
Let's have a brief description of each, I'm sure I've seen them all more than once but with the exception of All Good Things I have no idea what they were about just from the titles.

"BOBW" - Picard is captured by the Bord, assimilated, big battle at Wolf359, Star Fleet decimated, Riker captures Picard drone, Data gains access to Borg subspace link through Picard drone, Borg go sleepy

"Redemption" - Gowron appointed new Klingon leader, Klingon civil war, Duras backed by Romulans, Fed fleet discover cloaked Romulan supply convoy, support for Duras fade as the link is made public. Worf try to ragin his family honor by backing Gowron, is succesfull.

"Unification" - Romulans plan a secret invasion of Vulcan, forcing a reunification with their distant cousins. Spock spotted on Romulus, Data and Picard investigate. Spock working with Romulan dissenters, captured through treason. Data and Spock manages to foil the Vulcan invasion.

"Time's Arrow" - Data's head found under San Francisco, burried for 500 years (Roswell That Ends Well has several references to this ep), the crew investigate, timetravel back to 19th century SF, meets Samuel Clemens and Jack London, get back and reattach Data's head

"Chain Of Command" - The Cardassians are back in town. Picard, Crusher and Worf send undercover to investigate reports of bio-weapons, Picard captured an tortured for information. He reveal nothing, but admits that he was ready to tell them everything if he hadn't been rescued. "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!" The new captain of Enterprise, Edward Jellico, recues him after discovering a Cardassian fleet poised for invasion.

"Birthright" - Data has ana ccident that triggers a dream subroutine in him. He start to dream about his father, Noonian Soong. Meanwhile Worf investigate reports that his father may have survived a disastrous Romulan attack.

"Descent" - Lore transmit emotions into Data, making him addicted and slowly gaining control over him. With a group of renegade Borhg he plan to conquer the UFP. Data betrays the Enterprise crew to Lore, but Geordi find a way to return Data's sense of ethics. Hugh show up too.

"Gambit" - Pirates steal ancient Vulcan artifacts to try and reconstruct an old psionic weapon. Picard infiltrate the group and Riker is captured by them, leaving Data in command of the big E.

"All Good Things...." - Series final. Picard timejumps between the present, the past (set during "Encounter at Farpoint" ) and the future, 25 years ahead. A great anomaly in the Neutral Zone threaten to destroy mankind. Q admits to be part of it. Anti-time, converging tachyon beams, paradoxes, it's all here.
Lurrr

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« Reply #9 on: 09-30-2003 17:36 »

BOBW, no doubt about it. This is back in the time when the Borg weren't just giant action figures. I mean, one borg cube brings the Federation to it's knees and is only defeated at the last moment. Then comes Voyager where the day is punctuated by how many times you can defeat the Borg Collective.

'All Good Things' is a great episode too, and that final scene is just heart-warming (Picard: I should have done this a long time ago). Where did that feeling go?

And I quite like 'Time's Arrow' too.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #10 on: 09-30-2003 17:47 »

"The Best of Both Worlds."  The good old days when the Borg were fearsome.

BTW, why isn't "Encounter at Farpoint" on the list?
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« Reply #11 on: 09-30-2003 18:10 »

Why indeed.

Obviously I voted for BOBW, however I'd put "All Good Things" and "Time's Arrow" up there too.
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« Reply #12 on: 09-30-2003 18:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
I mean, one borg cube brings the Federation to it's knees and is only defeated at the last moment.

The ultimate TNG-era nitpick:
Why do the Borg only ever send one vessel to conquer Earth? Are they really that arrogant, or do they just not care about the Federation that much?  tongue
winna

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« Reply #13 on: 09-30-2003 18:30 »

They're so badass they only needed to send one cube...
Gocad

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« Reply #14 on: 10-01-2003 01:01 »
« Last Edit on: 10-01-2003 01:01 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
 The ultimate TNG-era nitpick:
Why do the Borg only ever send one vessel to conquer Earth? Are they really that arrogant, or do they just not care about the Federation that much?    tongue

Nah, two cubes would just have been too expensive...  tongue

LAN.gnome

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« Reply #15 on: 10-01-2003 01:20 »

"Best of Both Worlds," all the way. One big piece is the crying-Indian-esque Picard moment when the little drill-thing pokes his eye (read: contact lens  wink), and a single tear rolls down his cheek. Space opera at its finest.

Damn, it's gonna be a landslide...
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #16 on: 10-01-2003 02:22 »

It made sence in BoBT for the Borg to send one cube. It should have been enough. The real question is why didn't they send more cubes afterwards.
Grim

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« Reply #17 on: 10-01-2003 03:10 »

Why is Mission at Farpoint not included on the list?
How could a feature length ep featuring Q not be included, sheesh...

geez davids I used to think you were cool  wink
Tweek

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« Reply #18 on: 10-01-2003 03:37 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
"The Best of Both Worlds."  The good old days when the Borg were fearsome.

BTW, why isn't "Encounter at Farpoint" on the list?
The only other two parter I could remember, when it wasn't on the list I'd assumed my memory was going and it was shown as a feature-length episode, glad my mind still works  tongue I was never a fan of Q so even if it was there I wouldn't have voted for it.

PCC Fred

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« Reply #19 on: 10-01-2003 05:08 »

 
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Originally posted by MuscaDomestica:
It made sence in BoBT for the Borg to send one cube. It should have been enough. The real question is why didn't they send more cubes afterwards.

They did.  But it took them about seven years to arrive, whilst the first cube took 18 months.

Maybe the Borg kept cutting their military budget.  It explains how Janeway was able to defeat them so easily.
Lurrr

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« Reply #20 on: 10-01-2003 06:25 »

I bet it was 'cause they elected that Borg Queen. All her 'New Labour' ideals, and all her 'individuality'  roll eyes

This looks to be a very one-sided result. Would anyone have voted for 'Encounter at Farpoint' anyway?
PCC Fred

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« Reply #21 on: 10-01-2003 06:35 »

Probably not, but it still should have been in the list for nerdery's sake.
davids

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« Reply #22 on: 10-01-2003 10:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
Why is Mission at Farpoint not included on the list?
How could a feature length ep featuring Q not be included, sheesh...

geez davids I used to think you were cool   wink

Im sorry i obviosly can't count i knew there where ten but the website where i got the info didn't make it clear that Mission at Farpoint was adouble ep.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #23 on: 10-01-2003 11:24 »

I don't think it matters too much.  Given the choice between Locutus of Borg and Marina Sirtis' hyperacting...
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #24 on: 10-01-2003 12:58 »

While I dislike Modern Trek with a passion, I have watched some of it.  Agree with Teral tha DS9 is the best of the modern shows, the closest in spirit to TOS, but I have also watched some of TNG.  So, I'll also say that BOBW is the best of the TNG two-parters.  If anything, it probably would have been as easily shown in a theater, because it has that much of a cinematic feel to it.
Kryten

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« Reply #25 on: 10-01-2003 22:29 »

I'm gonna break with the majority here and vote for "Chain of Command". Great acting all around in that one.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #26 on: 10-01-2003 22:39 »

Just for the hell of it, I'll rattle off a personal Top 10:

1)Best of both Worlds
2)All Good Things
3)Encounter at Farpoint
4)Redemption
5)Time's Arrow
6)Chain of Command
7)Unification
8)Gambit*
9)Birthright*
10)Descent**

*Would have worked better as a 45 minute episode

**Burn the tapes!
Teral

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« Reply #27 on: 10-02-2003 14:31 »

      "Best Of Both Worlds"
      "Chain Of Command"
      "All Good Things..."
      "Unification"
      "Redemption"
      "Time's Arrow"
      "Encounter At Farpoint"
      "Birthright"
      "Gambit"
      "Descent"
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