Doctor Who Appreciation Thread

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Great episode. It was creepy and soo good. I love that everyone was alive somehow and the explanation for the little girl and the library was good. I love how the Vashta Nerada were using the people the killed to try to get the others.

Nice way to make a name for your self in heaven Xan.

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I almost burst into applause as the credits fell - excellent episode. I thought it was wandering off at some parts but when it all came together it was truly superb   

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Poignant bit was that I missed the very beginning so didn't get the idea of Donna meeting and falling in love with the man with the stutter. This was only revealed when I watched the Confidential show afterwards. Makes the end actually pretty heart-rendering. <(

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Yeah that was sad.

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She never did find out that he was real.
I was really sad about that because he was trying to yell out for her and he couldn't because of his stutter.[

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Was tonight's episode really written by RTD?

Very creepy.

And I really hope there's some series story arc development here, cause we don't find out about what it is for once. Well not yet anyway...

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And we've mentioned that cascade again I see

[Reply #644 on:]

yet again another fantastic episode, so much creepier than the last 2 episodes and very well done indeed

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They've been on a real creepy episode streak.
and the previews for next weeks episode seriously made me scream.

[Reply #646 on:]

It was a great and creepy episode. I love the mini-creepiness streak that they are on, the epidoes are good. Next weeks episoide looks great, I can't wait to see where it goes.

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This was Alfred Hitchcock meets the Twilight Zone; the only New Who episode in which I was actually, truly frightened. It's scary to be alone.

Congratulations, RTD, on making the bus too small for corridor running scenes. In heaven, I'll pay your hospital bill and buy you a drink.

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When I saw that the latest episode was written by RTD I was expecting it to be somewhat weaker than the previous story but was pleasantly surprised to find it was a genuinely creepy episode 

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@ Xanfor, in heaven you wont need to pay for hospital bills :P

Very good episode, strange how we dont find out what it is quite scary as well. I personally found the two episodes before more scary but maybe im just a big scaredy cat haha. Next weeks looks to be a good one.

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Did everybody spot Rose?

[Reply #651 on:]

yeah, i did

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next weeks episode looks great with rose coming back and all!

[Reply #652 on:]

Next week does look great.

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Plus we will (hopefully) find out what's on Donna's back (Fires of Pompeii if everyone remembers)

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what's with the sudden influx of spoiler tags?

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It's more fun that way

[Reply #655 on:]

People seriously enjoyed Midnight? What is the world coming to?

[Reply #656 on:]

It had a lesbian in it, what are you complaining about?

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Yeah, that episode had one of the best lesbians I'd ever seen.

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I do not recall this lesbian, where was this? For constructive purposes of corse. haha

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Midnight was a brilliant episode. One of my best I think

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She was the worst lesbian ever. I was neither turned on nor frightened by her repeating things that people say. I was instead bored and annoyed by it. If I was in charge of some kind of lesbian council I would have her disbanded.

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She was the worst lesbian ever. I was neither turned on nor frightened by her repeating things that people say. I was instead bored and annoyed by it. If I was in charge of some kind of lesbian council I would have her disbanded.

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Oh my god! I never realised how terrifying repeating things could be before. Now you've said that, I see that it's a completely valid premise for an episode of Doctor Who.

(plus she wasn't an attractive lesbian (or even an attractive fake-lesbian) so who cares?)

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LOL Xanfor!!!!

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LOL Xanfor!!!!

(Make it stop!)

 

Originally posted by Cube_166:

Oh my god! I never realised how terrifying repeating things could be before. Now you've said that, I see that it's a completely valid premise for an episode of Doctor Who.

(plus she wasn't an attractive lesbian (or even an attractive fake-lesbian) so who cares?)

To understand what made this episode scary, we need to understand the usual format of a 'scary' episode of Doctor Who. Take Blink, The Empty Child, or even the most recent Silence in the Library. I didn't find these particularly frightening in the traditional sense. I loved them to pieces, certainly, but the one crucial factor in my criteria for how I feel while watching an episode is the fact that I'm sitting right here, while on the other side of a piece of glass, phosphors are glowing representing the shapes of whatever it is I'm supposed to be afraid of. The gas-mask child repeating "Mummy, Mummy" is chilling, but not get-a-knot-in-your-stomach-because-their's-no-way-out direful. Being crept up upon by growing infected shadows is suspenseful and thrilling to watch, but all the while we know that the Doctor has his means, methods, and tools at his disposal, and while our adrenaline is rushing along with his, we are aware that at the last second he's gonna whip off his hat to cover the Dalek's eyestalk or do some other of that brilliantly inspired intellectual legerdemain for which we love him so much.

This episode is different. The Doctor is deprived of every single one of his means, methods, and tools. The TARDIS is several hours away across the surface of the planet, the sonic screwdriver is worthless because there's nothing to use it on. He has no companion, no one to lend credibility to his words. Even his words, his gob that he's certainly got is useless, because not only can he not communicate with this creature (what ever it is), but once it singles him out as the most clever individual on board, the one most likely to be a threat, it selectively singles him out to repeat thus robbing his credibility from the rest of the crew. His backup strategy won't even work; there's nowhere to run. He is completely helpless, completely and utterly vulnerable with absolutely no recourse. And his fate, his only hope at all, is with a bunch of irrational individuals who are polarised against him and remain utterly convinced that they are doing the right thing.

It's not the unnamed creature itself or its actions that makes this episode frightening, just as it wasn't the Vashta Nerada that our hearts went out for in Forest of the Dead. It was the desperation of being helpless and alone. And that can be more horrifying than any monster.

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To understand what made this episode scary, we need to understand the usual format of a 'scary' episode of Doctor Who. Take Blink, The Empty Child, or even the most recent Silence in the Library. I didn't find these particularly frightening in the traditional sense. I loved them to pieces, certainly, but the one crucial factor in my criteria for how I feel while watching an episode is the fact that I'm sitting right here, while on the other side of a piece of glass, phosphors are glowing representing the shapes of whatever it is I'm supposed to be afraid of. The gas-mask child repeating "Mummy, Mummy" is chilling, but not get-a-knot-in-your-stomach-because-their's-no-way-out direful. Being crept up upon by growing infected shadows is suspenseful and thrilling to watch, but all the while we know that the Doctor has his means, methods, and tools at his disposal, and while our adrenaline is rushing along with his, we are aware that at the last second he's gonna whip off his hat to cover the Dalek's eyestalk or do some other of that brilliantly inspired intellectual legerdemain for which we love him so much.

This episode is different. The Doctor is deprived of every single one of his means, methods, and tools. The TARDIS is several hours away across the surface of the planet, the sonic screwdriver is worthless because there's nothing to use it on. He has no companion, no one to lend credibility to his words. Even his words, his gob that he's certainly got is useless, because not only can he not communicate with this creature (what ever it is), but once it singles him out as the most clever individual on board, the one most likely to be a threat, it selectively singles him out to repeat thus robbing his credibility from the rest of the crew. His backup strategy won't even work; there's nowhere to run. He is completely helpless, completely and utterly vulnerable with absolutely no recourse. And his fate, his only hope at all, is with a bunch of irrational individuals who are polarised against him and remain utterly convinced that they are doing the right thing.

It's not the unnamed creature itself or its actions that makes this episode frightening, just as it wasn't the Vashta Nerada that our hearts went out for in Forest of the Dead. It was the desperation of being helpless and alone. And that can be more horrifying than any monster.

(But I said "monster" just a split second  before you did) Spooky

 

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You do have a point and I think the episode might have been properly scary if the whole desperation angle wasn't undermined by a ridiculous woman childishly repeating things.

Anyway nevermind all that now. More Doctor Who today. This week I've heard it's going to be a woman who makes childish gestures behind the Doctor's back but stops when he turns to look at her. Chilling or what?

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Well said Xanfor, and I agree.

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Well, at least we know what was on Donna's back. But this episode is all kind of pointless cause in the end it never happened anyway. Obviously Rose popping up is interesting, and hopefully they'll keep her from coming back "properly", cause I always disliked the little chav.
And as the series draws to a close we have the inevitable fun of the Daleks to look forward to now. Rock on!

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That's the third time tonight I've read/heard someone describe it as "pointless". It seems that after last week's wonderful fluke, RTD has slipped back into his old ways. It's a shame DW has to conform to the sci-fi cliché of making a "what if that thing I said?" episode so relatively early into it's new run. Hopefully it's just a good setup for next week. I liked Donna's "Is this a film?" line when she and her family were watching the Titanic falling. Very 9/11-ish.

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wow it was a very pretty good episode. I love Rose she is all grown up and I guess she learnt a lot from The Doctor. Watching the preview to next week's epsidoe almost give me a Seizure
 
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POTM  June 2007

[Reply #671 on:]

I'm with Juliet on Rose, she defiantly learned a lot from the Doctor even able to be a bit of a stand him for him. I really like the episode, but next weeks looks really good and Captain Jack and The Doctor will be there that's just a bonus.   

I like Rose Donna I'm not so big on. I'm not sure why but something about her rubs me the wrong way.

I though tonight episode was good we finally learned what was on Donna's back. What's with the recurring mentioning of the bees disappearing? It's driving me nutso

SoS: Why do you not like Rose?

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  The Doctor, Captain Jack and Ianto Jones 

Three hot men in one show is pure hotness

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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:


SoS: Why do you not like Rose?

She treated Micky and her mum like shit, she is selfish in the extreme. She started a with zero humility and just got steadily more arrogant the more time she spent with the Doctor.

But the main reason is that she always had to play that song so loud, and I've never forgiven her for that.   

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Originally posted by Juliet:
  The Doctor, Captain Jack and Ianto Jones   

Three hot men in one show is pure hotness

Yes! So agreed Juliet.

Ah that explains it SoS.

[Reply #675 on:]

There is 2 of them now?

*mumbles and never comes back*

[Reply #676 on:]

Two of what?

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Badwolf bad wolf badwolf Badwolf_166:

Bad wolf bad wolf badwolf bad wolf badwolf bad wolfbadwolf bad wolf badwolfbadwolf bad wolf bad wolf badwolf bad wolf badwolf bad wolf badwolfbadwolfbad wolf badwolf badwolf bad wolf.

Bad Wolf! Bad wolf badwolf bad wolf, bad-wolf bad wolf bad wolf badwolfbadwolf badwolf, bad wolf! Bad wolf BADWOLF!   

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As we all know, Rose created the whole "Bad Wolf" thing while she had the Time Vortex in her head.

So does this mean that she's responsible this time around? Please, please let Rose have screwed up royally playing "Doctor" in that other universe. That'll teach the little cow.

(I am well aware of how unpopular "Rose hatred" is amongst the masses of Doctor Who fans, but still I cling - I don't know where else I can go)

My fingers are crossed for Rose being stupid and being to blame.

So for once in my life, let me get what I want. Lord knows it would be the first time.

Apologies to non-Smiths fans who wont have a clue what I quoting in certain parts

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Two Doctors, and the Doctor Donna. And all Jack says is "I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now." At the time it was on, I can only think of it as a good idea.