Doctor Who Appreciation Thread

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Because of the Master, probably. Even though he regenerated in the Tardis, she was there for it.

TOTPD!

[Reply #601 on:]

I don't know, I think I was slightly underwhelmed by the episode

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I guess it wasn't quite so much the story but just how quickly it lept from one element to another with no development, nothing inbetween (though the development of the Doctor's character was there and nice and I liked how Donna figured out the numbers). But otherwise it just seemed to be: Where are we - oh, have a daughter - oh where's Martha going? - oh this map's too small, oh look it gets bigger - oh look, we're off to war and you're off to jail, etc etc.

I did think that Jenny's "death" scene was powerful, but sadly I saw it coming. I also thought the Hash drowning saving Martha was powerful, possibly more so, but his death seemed to serve no purpose to the plot, except perhaps to show a sympathetic side to the Hash and maybe to remind Martha that she really didn't want to do this kind of stuff anymore. Maybe I've just answered myself there but, oh well. Anyho, I was thinking Jenny regenerating in the Doctor's arms would have been an amazingly powerful moment, to tie in with the whole thing of her being a second Time Lord, but oh well. That said, keeping it the same actress is cool given the fact that she's the daughter of Peter Davison.

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In reply to Zed 85:

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Don't forget that female Time Lords can choose their regeneration form, and if you were Genny would you want to change it?

[Reply #603 on:]

Ah, I wasn't aware of that.

[Reply #604 on:]

My mother told me never to swear.

That being said... Bloody brilliant! I didn't have high expectations in the first place, but blimey!

Now I can never show my face on the Doctor Who forums again...

 

Originally posted by ShepherdofShark:
I have one problem with the script:

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Rose is the only person who has ever seen a regeneration in the new series. Why does Martha seem know what to look for?

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Martha worked for UNIT, I assumed she'd seen the the Time Lord files. Also, I don't recall it ever being stated that Jenny was in fact a Time Lady. It could be that she was just a Gallifreyian (not having gone to the Acadamy,) which is why she couldn't regenerate. They kept all this ambiguous though, I am so profoundly grateful.

I thought this episode moved kinda fast, but for me that was all reconciled by the revelation of how the war had come to its present state in the first place. That, my friends, is a classic Who twist ending. I loved it.

Now I can anticipate the rest of this series in peace. 

(Edited because giddy morons can't spell 'peace' correctly...)

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You're right Xanfor.

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A war that has waged for countless generations? It was truly a classic end.

I concede that Martha will have researched the Doctor thoroughly and that Genny is not technically a Time Lord (Time Lady never rolled off the tongue well for me). But she did manage to come back to life... somehow.

But as you say, thank God they got through this episode without destroying the character. The next 7 weeks will be fun.

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I really liked the generational war that had lasted only seven days. The episode overall meandered between good (after the jail scene I could buy into the idea that this clone really was the Doctor's daughter) and underwhelming: The Doctor's "I never would" left me wondering if he would have shot whatshisname if it was Susan or someone who had been killed.

Tonight's looks good.

[Reply #607 on:]

Blimey, that was wonderful. 

I love that they're keeping up with the show's diversity in styles.

"MAIDEN!- Sorry..." 

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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Blimey, that was wonderful.

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Yes it certainly wazzzz-zzzz, ZZZ-zzz-Xanfor.

I hope RTD and the other writers have learned that the show is almost invariably better when they stay away from modern day Earth, but I doubt it.

[Reply #609 on:]

I loved the episode. I'm not one for murder-mysteries but  it was great.

[Reply #610 on:]

Faith in this series fully restored. I loved it 

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Double post time - it appears that RTD is to step-down as executive producer for Doctor Who for the 2010 series, to be replaced by Steven Moffat (Здесь). That's interesting in an exciting way 

[Reply #612 on:]

Is that a picture of RTD's reaction when he learned he'd be stepping down? 

I'm liking the sound of this. Let's see, what Doctor Who has Moffat written? The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances, The Girl in the Fireplace, and Blink. Oh, and The Curse of Fatal Death.

This is going to be more than interesting, this is going to be spectacular. I wonder what Moffat's idea of a series story arc is...

[Reply #613 on:]

We'll soon find out. Thoes are good epsiodes that he has written can't wait to see where he takes the series.

[Reply #614 on:]

No Doctor tonight. No fair. BOOOOOO!!!!!

bloody Eurovision, grumble

[Reply #615 on:]

YOU GOT TO SEE THIS

New Trailer!

[Reply #616 on:]

Ok that was better than the trailer after the episode.

Now it may have been just a trick of the light but that last Dalek looked less compete than the other, more like a wheelchair for a certain nut job if you will. (although I was sure he had died at some point quite permanantly)

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Hey, it's not like he hasn't done it before.

Watching that trailer almost made me forget about how bad it's been having to wait two weeks.

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That looks pretty cool 

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RTD has gone too far, I tell you!

[Reply #620 on:]

That's crazy I tell you (*clicks fingers*)

[Reply #621 on:]

what an episode, and a two parter to boot! The best episode this series without a shadow of a doubt (excuse the pun)

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I thought it was going to be a good one when I saw it was written by Steven Moffat and I was right 

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This episode disturbed me.

Anywho, a two-parter. I should never comment on two-parters until they're complete.

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I think River Song is a baddie.

[Reply #624 on:]

The episode was pretty disturbing indeed, but I did think it was fantastic. Based on this episode alone I think Doctor Who is going to be in very good hands with Moffat as chief writer. Then again there's all the other episodes and stories he's written, which pratically confirms this without question.

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I thought it was quite pedestrian for a Moffat episode. Then again, The Empty Child was quite boring and look what happened in The Doctor Dances!

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SPOILERS!

I love how he includes little nods to fans in episodes, like last year when someone said the windows in the TARDIS were too small.

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I'm sure River Song will die next week, based on the Ood's cryptic "Your song will end soon". It would make sense for the first time the Doctor meets her to be the last time she sees him.

The little girl reminds me of the little girl in Fear Her, what with all of her drawings. Looking forward to next week.

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I thought it was one of the scariest ones since Doctor Who has came back. I think Doctor who is at its best when its scary. I loved the episode. Though i still like the old doctor who better, especially Tom Baker he was great and made it his own, unfortunately no one has been able to step into the shoes of the great one.

This series has been an improovement on the last series though! Hopefully they dont bring the Daleks back again, the Daleks rule but you dont want to ruin it by overusing them!

I've also just found a video i Haven't seen in ages where Tom Baker is the doctor, the episode is called "the assasin" and its got described on the back *the doctor has been framed with assasinating the president of the time lords!* If that doesnt salivate you what will  haha

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Originally posted by boasel:
Hopefully they dont bring the Daleks back again

I wouldn't count on that.

 

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They will bring back the Daleks or Davros just judging on the trailer that was posted by Juliet. Like Xan I will not comment on the 2 parter until it is complete but I think it is for a different reason. I will get very impatient for the next part.

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Originally posted by boasel:

I've also just found a video i Haven't seen in ages where Tom Baker is the doctor, the episode is called "the assasin" and its got described on the back *the doctor has been framed with assasinating the president of the time lords!* If that doesnt salivate you what will    haha

The Deadly Assassin, actually. One of the only stories without a companion. I enjoyed the secondary console room though. All it needed was a large spiral staircase going up the sides...

Anyways, there was something I wanted to mention in this mid-two-parter lull. This webpage right here hasn't changed since the broadcast of Bad Wolf, except for a small little "Update" on the very bottom added after The Parting of the Ways. You'd think that's the end, right? Wrong!

There is something wrong with it. Something very drastically wrong. I thought it was a typo, but now I think its a clue. A big clue. Something right in front of our screens since 2005 and we've dismissed it utterly...

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Does the typo begin with 'D' by any chance?

Interesting if true.

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I think i know what typo you are talking about sos, dam oh dam! *going back to my prev post*

My favourite episode is pyramids of mars. If any one has seen that, it's just classic doctor who, still scares me...

I'm trying really hard to try and fit the doctors daughter in a storyline atm but all i can think of is that the daughter is the person who the doctor knows not of but she knows the doctor. I dont think that she ever infered the relationship between her and the doctor was more than friends, so possible but not probable.

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Originally posted by Xanfor:
There is something wrong with it. Something very drastically wrong. I thought it was a typo, but now I think its a clue. A big clue. Something right in front of our screens since 2005 and we've dismissed it utterly...

I'm thinking typo. I don't think they'd "accidentally" reveal such a potentially huge plot point on a website. Though it is interesting that there are still "clues" out there.

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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/291/badwolflibrarynv8.jpg

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Mid season trailier:
 
Click the link


Please excuse my crap-ness

I'm not sure if you guys have seen that yet, I haven't seen a post with the url so thought it could be of use *uk only it says*    SPOILERS!!!

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So concluding from that video do you think the Daleks could have anything to do with the darkness? They always seem to be able to manipulate some species, the Daleks

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I think the episode was excellent. Though I dislike River song.

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and yes, I think it will have something to do with the Daleks.

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Opinions/Interpretations

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We clearly have a clever bit of time play here and there's no escaping the fact that this episode has far too many hints to the idea that River Song is Rose/descendant of Rose for that to be actually true.

To be honest I really don't have any idea what's going to happen next. Great isn't it?

Fantastic episode.


Additional: And this is where the story really starts.

[Reply #636 on:]

Dam what a great episode.

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The doctor said "theres only one reason i would say my name"    "theres only one time i could"  or said something on the lines of that, theres only one time he could... now if your thinking what im thinking...? I also remember the Ood saying something like "your name burns in the stars" to the doctor.

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thats without doubt my favourite doctor who couple of episodes ever...absolutely brilliant..can't think of any other words to describe it. The imaginary world? Genius. The whole integration of Dr. Moon? Work of brilliance

don't think any episode can better that

[Reply #638 on:]

It certainly was a good episode, it was genuinely creepy in places 

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When I get to heaven, after the introduction ceremony and a brief pause to get Jesus' autograph... The first thing I am going to do is walk over to Russell T. Davies and shake his hand, punch him in the stomach, and step on his face on the way to give Steven Moffat a big hug.

I love 'everybody lives' stories.