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Wonderbee31

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« on: 09-23-2003 23:40 »
« Last Edit on: 09-24-2003 00:00 »

After seeing a post from PCC Fred in Offtopic Discussion, I realized that I'm not the only Whovian around here.  I started watching the adventures of the good Doctor since 1981, and have been a loyal fan since then, with only Star Trek: TOS rivaling it. 

I wondered if anybody else around here was able to watch the shows now.  I know that they still show them on a few public TV stations here in the US, on UK Gold? and ABC in Australia.  Here's a few of my favorites from the whole 26 years the show was on.

My Favorite Doctors in order:
7, 4, 5, 2, 3, 6, 1, 8

Favorite Monster race: Cybermen

Favorite Villain: The Master(Roger Delgado's version, of course)  wink

Favorite Episode: Oh crap, that's hard, but it's a tie between Genesis of the Daleks/Tomb of the Cybermen.

So, did anybody else ever like to step into a TARDIS, and journey throughout all time and space?

Leela, meet Leela? Hmmm...starts writing down story outline.
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« Reply #1 on: 09-23-2003 23:56 »

Tom Baker owns!  He, after all, had a sidekick named Leela.

My favourite episode was one from 1980, called "City Of Death".  The reason is that it scared the living hell out of me when I was a kid, and it's the earliest episode I remember watching.

My mate has all of the videos, and watched UK GOLD on Sunday Morning (which is when complete stories get shown in the UK).

Obviously the Daleks were the best bad-guys, especially once they developed the technology to allow them to "climb" stairs.
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« Reply #2 on: 09-24-2003 03:01 »

I don't know, the Daleks were as evil as could be, and that cream and gold livery in their last story was great looking.  But the later model Cybermen, especially in 'Earthshock' were fantastic looking.  If I were captured and forced to be made a member of a monster race, Cybermen just ruled in their silver outfits.  Though I also have a soft spot for "Sea Devils" as well.
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« Reply #3 on: 09-24-2003 03:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Tom Baker owns!  He, after all, had a sidekick named Leela.

Indeed he did, I'm sure his episodes had more children hiding behind the sofa and getting nightmares than any of the others  evil laugh


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« Reply #4 on: 09-24-2003 13:40 »

Tom Baker's the best! Followed by Peter Davison. I used to watch that show every week when it was on PBS, but they stopped airing it several years ago.
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« Reply #5 on: 09-24-2003 13:52 »
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Originally posted by Wonderbee31:My Favorite Doctors in order:
7, 4, 5, 2, 3, 6, 1, 8

Favorite Monster race: Cybermen

Favorite Villain: The Master(Roger Delgado's version, of course)    wink

Favorite Episode: Oh crap, that's hard, but it's a tie between Genesis of the Daleks/Tomb of the Cybermen.

Whoohoo! Fellow Whoovian   smile I'm a fan of Trial of a Time Lord (Colin Baker), and much of Patrick Troughton's stuff...the old black and white stuff is great   smile Peter Davison is great as well...Slyvester McCoy is just a bit too eighties for me though...
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« Reply #6 on: 09-24-2003 14:10 »
« Last Edit on: 09-24-2003 14:10 »

I always thought Peter Davison brought a lot of simple charm to the role, and was glad that he followed behind Tome Baker's Doctor, who was fairly flamboyant.  He brought a quiet dignity to the role. 

The reason I like the McCoy Doctor so much, especially in the last two seasons, was that...I guess it was what I always felt a Time Lord would be like, at the height of their power.  You know, able to control events, lives, and plan for the big picture.  I wish they could have gone to season 27, where maybe they could have found out more about the Doctor, though maybe it would have been less as well.  McCoy was like a happy clown, but just underneath, there was more power than you could ever imagine.  eek
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« Reply #7 on: 09-24-2003 14:15 »

The Sylvester McCoy episode "The Greatest Show In The Galaxy", that was a good one.

I like McCoy too, and Sophie Aldred as "Ace" was a decent sidekick.
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« Reply #8 on: 09-24-2003 14:48 »

I remember watching some Doctor Who episodes when I was little, I was scared of the Daleks  hmpf I can remember the theme tune though, and it's an awesome programme  smile
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« Reply #9 on: 09-24-2003 14:52 »
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I think the Seventh Doctor and Ace are probably the best Doctor/companion team, though maybe it's because Ace actually had a definable personality.  (The Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane and the Fourth Doctor and Leela were good too, though, and the Brigadier is usually good.)  It's too bad they didn't have more stories.

It's also too bad that the show was cancelled when it was, since it really seemed to be going in a good direction the last two years.  Stories like Remembrance of the Daleks and The Curse of Fenric (even though it "borrowed" a lot from John Carpenter's The Fog) brought a new maturity to the show, and it really could have gone somewhere.

I didn't like the writers' plans about the Doctor's character, though: their idea of making him more mysterious was to explain his whole origin.  When it was cancelled they were planning to do a story called Lungbarrow that would have explained the Doctor's origin, but it later came out as a novel, which is currently available for free on the BBC site.

I like the other Doctors too, though.  I don't think Jon Pertwee has been mentioned yet, but he was great.  And recently I listened to the audio of The Daleks' Masterplan (with William Hartnell), and thought it was surprisingly good.

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
I'm a fan of Trial of a Time Lord (Colin Baker)
So you're the one!  I'd heard there was someone out there who liked that one.  I met Colin Baker and he seemed like a really cool guy, he unfortunately just ended up with some bad stories and a silly "new direction" for his Doctor.

And by the way, you should say you have a favorite story, not episode, since most Doctor Who stores are made up of multiple episodes.  And you call yourselves Who fans!
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« Reply #10 on: 09-24-2003 14:58 »

Not to speak ill of the dead, but, I really wish that John Nathan Turner had left the theme music alone.  I just thought that it was loud, garish, and not fitting in as much as I hoped.  That, and his idea to make the Doctor and Companions wear the same stuff all the time to make it easier for toys and such stuff, was a little silly.  I know that everybody had Star Wars on the brain back then, but the Doctor's adventures were someplace where you could get away from that.  Instead of overblown special fx extravaganzas, you had to have good writing and use imagination to get the best story possible.  I still think that over 26 years, Doctor Who was some of the best, consistently written sci-fi on TV.
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« Reply #11 on: 09-24-2003 15:13 »

All of the music was a fantastic showcase for the BBC Radiophonic Workshop.  It was all great, especially the incidental stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: 09-24-2003 15:42 »
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^ Yeah, what was with the Sylvester McCoy music?
Although I believe that was one of the earliest uses of CGI in the BBC ever (the McCoy opening credits)...pretty cool

...but when compared to the theme tune for the Fox TV movie...well
 
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Originally posted by Wonderbee31:
I don't know, the Daleks were as evil as could be, and that cream and gold livery in their last story was great looking.

If only the Dimension Dalek had actually got made (instead, the BBC decided to make that rubbish "3D" Dr Who speicial instead...)
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« Reply #13 on: 09-24-2003 17:08 »

Now, what was with that rumour that Dr Who would be coming back, in the hands of The League Of Gentlemen (with Mark Gatiss taking the role of the Doctor)?
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« Reply #14 on: 09-24-2003 17:16 »

I like Doctor Who, but I haven't watched it in the past couple of years so my memory's a little faded on it. I don't really have a favorite doctor, but I did like a lot of the Sylvester McCoy stuff. They were much scarier then some of the previous episodes (esp. Colin Baker's) and the Doctor seemed much more intelligent and, as you've said, mysterious. 'Curse of Fenric' and 'Ghostlight' were two episodes that spooked me, but I also loved 'The Happiness Patrol' for being so disturbing and yet so amusing too.
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« Reply #15 on: 09-24-2003 17:27 »

Well, from the last Tom Baker season to the last Colin Baker season the theme music was just, well, loud and a little obnoxious.  The McCoy theme music was ok, but still not as good as the opening music from the 10th to 17th seasons. 

Sometimes, when people talk about how dumb FUX was for cancelling Futurama, I want to tell them about how dumb auntie beeb was, because of all of the episodes of the first and second Doctors that just got...destroyed.

P.S. I understand that a few minutes of Fury from the Deep was found this month, so just maybe, one day, we'll find all of the episodes again.
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« Reply #16 on: 09-25-2003 05:21 »

Yes, I too must come out of the TARDIS and admit I'm a Who fan too.  My third ever memory is watching 'Stones Of Blood' in 1978.  I got my first issue of Doctor Who Magazine in 1981.  And now...well, now I have a house full of various Doctor Who stuff.  I don't even want to think how much I've spent on it over the last decade...  eek

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« Reply #17 on: 09-25-2003 06:22 »

Cool signature Mr Planet - That's one of my favourite lines too. My earliest memories of Doctor Who are some garbled ideas about what happened in "Planet Of Spiders", and Morbius' flashng brain. For most of my life Tom Baker has been my favourite Doctor, but as I get older my preference becomes less strong - I'm beginning to like them all equally. Colin Baker's television persona is probably my least favourite, but that is chiefly down to the script editor's choices, and nothing to do with Colin himself. In fact the comic strip version of the Sixth Doctor is one of my favourites - a sort of intergalactic Christopher Robin. Colin Baker was also very good in the stage show "Doctor Who - The Ultimate Adventure" and I hear he's very good in all the Big Finish stuff he's done.
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« Reply #18 on: 09-25-2003 11:11 »

I'm definitely a fan as well.  TVO started showing the Tom Baker era episodes in the early 80s, and that had me hooked -Sarah Jane Smith was my first pre-pubescent crush.

And of course I'm glad this topic came up, since it gives me a chance to shamelessly plug my recent Flash animation piece that, basically, is a manga-style comic set in the world of Doctor Who (Susan being the main character this time around).
 http://zed.cbc.ca/displayContent.do?item_id=53397

(be kind in your judgement; it's actually my first complete Flash animation project of any significant length)

In the beginning the Universe was created.  This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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« Reply #19 on: 09-25-2003 13:39 »

I'll also add my name to the list since I've been a follower of the good doctor for over 10 years thanks to the BBC2 repeats at the time.

Rather then list favourite doctors/stories, I'll list my favourite seasons.

Season 5: (1967-68): Although only 13 episodes out of 40 episodes still exist, this for me is the best season from the '60s. I'm very fond of Tomb Of The Cybermen and The Ice Warriors and I look forward to finally seeing the surviving episode from The Web Of Fear when it's released later this year.

Season 7 (1970): Jon Pertwee's first season and one of the best in the show's history. All the stories are great but I'm  particularly fond of Doctor Who And The Silurians and The Ambassadors Of Death. I also like the show's adult approach which was later regained when Tom Baker joined.

Season 14(1976-77): Every fan worth his salt loves this season and with good reason. Probably the most consistent season ever alongside season 7. As for a favourite story, Talons Of Weng-Chiang is great but The Deadly Assassin gets my vote for best story.

Season 18 (1980-81): Tom's last season and his best overall since season 14. The only real dud being Meglos. The show was suffering it's lowest ratings for over a decade at this point. Good thing they decided to move it for the next season otherwise it may not have lasted.

Season 26 (1989): The show's final season was it's best for almost a decade. Shame the beeb axed it at this point.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #20 on: 09-25-2003 18:16 »

I'm not entirely sure about this, but I don't think DOctor Who was ever announced as being cancelled.  It was put "on hiatus" in 1985 when the BBC were scraping the money to launch Eastenders, and I read somewhere that the show was put "on hiatus" again in 1990.  Sound familiar?

Picking my favourite Doctor is tough, because I've seen so many good stories from all eras.  Sylvester McCoy was severly underrated, and his final two seasons were phenomenal.  I felt Colin Baker was probably the poorest, but in defense of the guy, his era was sabotaged by crap writing and the inclusion of Bonnie Langford.
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« Reply #21 on: 09-25-2003 18:21 »

As a Dr Who fan who has neglected the show for a number of years, I have recently been moved to purchase them all on DVD... It'll be worth the cost.
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« Reply #22 on: 09-26-2003 06:22 »

Oh, and Doctor Who will be coming back on our screens come 2005.  Doubt me?  Look here  -  http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2003/09/26/7012.shtml

If the BBC say it, then it has to be true...  love
PCC Fred

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« Reply #23 on: 09-26-2003 06:26 »

It's true - I've read the news on no less than four reliable sources!  smile
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #24 on: 09-26-2003 08:09 »

Yes!  This is what I've been waiting for, for the last several years.  For awhile, I wondered if the BBC was a little ashamed of the Doctor or something, as it seemed like they would not do anything, besides release the videos.  But this is great, and on top of finding some more 2nd Doctor footage, this has been a great week for Whovians everywhere.  Go Doctor!
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« Reply #25 on: 09-26-2003 09:33 »
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Don't get too excited yet; remember the Dark Dimension debacle.  Of course, that was just one special while this is a whole new series that's being announced really early.  But still, Doctor Who hasn't had good luck with the BBC.

I know I've seen Russel T Davies's name tossed around before, but really, everyone's name has been tossed around.  But apparently he's been actively involved in trying for a new show since 2000 or earlier.  The new Doctor Who Magazine just came out, so I guess next month they'll have all the details.
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« Reply #26 on: 09-26-2003 12:45 »
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Wonderbee, what new footage did they find?   smile

Incidentally, a Radio Times poll pulished on Monday showed that Doctor Who was the show most of it's readers would like to return.
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« Reply #27 on: 09-26-2003 12:59 »

I'll believe it when I see it. So many rumours float around with these things that I'd rather not get excited about it only to feel bad when something else crops up. However, it will be great to see a classic British sci-fi show on the air again  smile

And I would also like to get Doctor Who on DVD but it would cost a small fortune. MVC and HMV have the DVDs on sale right now so I'll pick some of them up (god knows how old I'll be before they release all the episodes on DVD...)
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« Reply #28 on: 09-26-2003 13:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
I'll believe it when I see it...

Well, it's been around CNN, various UK frontpages...(but BBC Wales? - what's with that?)
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« Reply #29 on: 09-26-2003 13:12 »

 
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Wonderbee, what new footage did they find?

They found some three minutes of film footage from the episode 'Fury from the Deep', some actual footage, and some um, cut stuff, featuring the clacker? and the actors getting on their cues.  Hopefully, more of this stuff's out there, somewhere, la la la la la( Goes ahead and throws American Tail song reference in the pot). 

Yes Doctor, the Master lives, and he's not any beardless moron, but a truly evil genius, with a cool beard.  Muhahaha!
(The Master uses his TCE on everybody on the board)
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« Reply #30 on: 09-27-2003 04:54 »

For those who havn't heard of Dead Ringers (or just want to hear it again), there's some fantastic prank calls by Jon Culshaw who does a pretty amazing Tom Baker impression:

Dr Who rings Slyvester McCoy

Dr who rings himself

The Doctor tries to claim compensation

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« Reply #31 on: 09-27-2003 06:09 »

It was mentioned on Today this morning, apparently it won't be as scary as before... when they showed repeats of episodes from the '70s recently they cut them even though they were in the same time slot as shown originally, I guess children of the sixties and seventies where made of tougher stuff than today's youth  tongue
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« Reply #32 on: 09-27-2003 07:36 »

I've heard / read that Alan Davies (aka Jonathan Creek) is in the running to play the new Doctor Who.
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« Reply #33 on: 09-27-2003 08:49 »

I've been watching Jonathon Creek Alan Davis good do a very good job as the Doctor.  How about Alan Rickman as the Master?
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« Reply #34 on: 01-15-2004 23:15 »
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Episode two of The Daleks' Masterplan has been found!  All copies were thought to have been destroyed decades ago.  I think the last time an episode was rediscovered was around 1999, when the first episode of the story The Crusade was found.  Of course, nine of the twelve episodes of Masterplan are still missing (plus the prelude episode Mission to the Unknown), but that's better than it was.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/15/8897.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3400429.stm
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« Reply #35 on: 01-16-2004 09:05 »

Yes! That means that there's one more episode that can be checked off my list.  Hopefully some more episodes will be found in the near future.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #36 on: 01-16-2004 11:52 »

It's good news to an extent, as it means a complete Katarina/Bret Vyon episode finally exists, but it's a shame that it wasn't an episode that completed an entire story.

Incidentally, did anyone ever hear the tale about the BBC's attempt to locate the missing story "Marco Polo"?
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« Reply #37 on: 01-16-2004 12:06 »

 
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It's good news to an extent, as it means a complete Katarina/Bret Vyon episode finally exists, but it's a shame that it wasn't an episode that completed an entire story.
The only single episode that would complete a story is episode 4 of The Tenth Planet, which has long been the holy grail of missing episodes.  About twelve years ago they briefly thought they'd found it, but it remains missing.
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« Reply #38 on: 01-18-2004 22:36 »

Here's some latest news/rumours I saw on Teletext today:

*The new series will be 12 episodes long.

*The budget is quoted as being "over 4 million" for the series, about 330,000 per episode.  Although still well down on the budget for U.S. sci-fi shows, it's light-years ahead of the budget of the original series.

*Paul McGann should appear in the first episode, where'll he'll regenerate into the new Doctor.

*Expect appearences from the Daleks and/or the Cybermen.

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« Reply #39 on: 01-19-2004 10:32 »

I got Tomb of the Cybermen and Vengeance of Varos on DVD recently and it has revived my enthusiasm for the new series. Whetever happens, it'll be better than all the other sci-fi left on TV. Which amounts to, er, Star Trek.
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