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DrThunder88

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« Reply #40 on: 09-22-2003 17:04 »
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
I wouldn't have them killed, but I would cancel the show    evil laugh.

Final episode: Matt Groening's cartoon persona walks around Springfield apologizing and blowing away characters with a shotgun.

Groening: Oh god, is that what Homer has become?  I'm so sorry, folks. *rack-rack* *boom*
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« Reply #41 on: 09-22-2003 17:09 »

Hey, that'd make a really cool final episode!

Of course, I'd really love an episode where Gil and Lisa get hit by a car and die.
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« Reply #42 on: 09-22-2003 17:49 »

Who wouldn't.
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« Reply #43 on: 09-22-2003 19:23 »

How can you not like Gil?
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« Reply #44 on: 09-22-2003 19:26 »

People want to put him out of his misery. In my opinion he kinda drags the show down.
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« Reply #45 on: 09-22-2003 21:45 »

You don't need to kill off characters like Gil.  Just drop them.  Gil hasn't even appeared in about a year, so why complain?

All the complaints about Homer being mischaracterized would be very valid...if it were still somewhere in 1999-2001 right now.

As for killing off Lisa...why?  She's one of the best characters on the show.  Maybe not in 1999-2001, but everyone sucked then.

Anyways, you death-happy people will be getting your wish, sorta.  Someone is going to die this upcoming season, and I think I know who it is.....
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« Reply #46 on: 09-22-2003 22:12 »
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True, but nothing lends a sense of finality like having a character die.

The problem with Gil is that he's a pseudo-character.  There are a few throw-away characters that serve the same multi-faceted purpose as Gil (the sarcastic, moustached, Hank-Azaria-voiced guy comes to mind), but none of them are quite so irritating.  Clearly, the other guy is annoying, but too the point where you realize that he's annoying and personifies all the annoying bit characters in our lives.  Gil, on the other hand, is just a loser.  He is not a character enough to be a real character, and he isn't one-dimensional enough to be a throw-away.  His antics of failure are tired and overdone (much like everyone else's antics).
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« Reply #47 on: 09-22-2003 22:24 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
You don't need to kill off characters like Gil.  Just drop them.  Gil hasn't even appeared in about a year, so why complain?

All the complaints about Homer being mischaracterized would be very valid...if it were still somewhere in 1999-2001 right now.

As for killing off Lisa...why?  She's one of the best characters on the show.  Maybe not in 1999-2001, but everyone sucked then.

Anyways, you death-happy people will be getting your wish, sorta.  Someone is going to die this upcoming season, and I think I know who it is.....

Which episode is someone going to die in? And who do you think's going to die (put it in spoilers if you're postive that's who's going to die; me and the show have sort of gone seperate ways so it won't ruin the death much for me)
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« Reply #48 on: 09-22-2003 23:46 »

I don't KNOW who's going to die or which episode.  But based on common logic and some "hints" from an insider:

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« Reply #49 on: 09-23-2003 00:16 »

 
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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
The problem with Gil is that he's a pseudo-character.  There are a few throw-away characters that serve the same multi-faceted purpose as Gil (the sarcastic, moustached, Hank-Azaria-voiced guy comes to mind), but none of them are quite so irritating.  Clearly, the other guy is annoying, but too the point where you realize that he's annoying and personifies all the annoying bit characters in our lives.  Gil, on the other hand, is just a loser.  He is not a character enough to be a real character, and he isn't one-dimensional enough to be a throw-away.  His antics of failure are tired and overdone (much like everyone else's antics).

[Cubert snort]

Gil is/was a parody of the late Jack Lemmon's character in the film "Glengarry Glen Ross." Shelley "The Machine" Levine was a former real estate worker who fell on hard times after years of glory. Hence, Gil was first introduced in the episode "Realty Bites" (when Marge gets a job at a realtor.) That's the joke. Removed from that context, Gil really doesn't mean anything. It's a one-shot joke removed from its setting.

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« Reply #50 on: 09-23-2003 00:57 »

I don't even see what the big deal about Gil is anyway.  I thought he was funny.  Yeah, he was overused too...DURING 1998-2001.  He's probably shown up three times since.  What's the big deal?  He's essentially been dropped, let it go.  It would be too disturbing to kill him on the air.

Ya know, they overused Mr. Burns in season two.  They should have killed him off!
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« Reply #51 on: 09-23-2003 01:11 »

How come he hasn't died yet?? I mean Mr. Burns should already be in the grave by now... how many years has The Simpsons dragged on now, with him still alive?

And if he has died, we're going to forget this post ever existed.. hehe.
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« Reply #52 on: 09-23-2003 01:16 »

Burns is great, one of the best characters in the show!

He is still alive because of all the treatment he has.
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« Reply #53 on: 09-23-2003 01:21 »

Yeah, Burn's will never die inside the series. Outside however...
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« Reply #54 on: 09-23-2003 01:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
How come he hasn't died yet?? I mean Mr. Burns should already be in the grave by now... how many years has The Simpsons dragged on now, with him still alive?

That's a bit like saying, "Why is Bart still 11?"
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« Reply #55 on: 09-23-2003 01:32 »

And why isn't Homer dead yet?
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« Reply #56 on: 09-23-2003 01:55 »

Yeah, wasn't he supposed to die six months after "Homer the Heretic"? So, why was he still alive in "Lisa's Wedding" and "Bart to the Future"? Are we supposed to believe that this is some sort of magic Homer? Gee, I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.
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« Reply #57 on: 09-23-2003 01:58 »

What's with all the Simpsons trashing? Sure the last few seasons suck, but the damage has been done. It would have been better to have cancelled it after Season 10 or 11, but now it has jumped the shark and they might as well continue to make sucky episodes, because they are better than all the other programs on TV.

Of course shows like Futurama and Family Guy are way better, but hey, they're both cancelled, and stopping the Simpsons isn't going to get them back on TV.
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« Reply #58 on: 09-23-2003 02:06 »

 
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:

Of course shows like Futurama and Family Guy are way better, but hey, they're both cancelled, and stopping the Simpsons isn't going to get them back on TV.

By god, I have an idea!

Nah I'm just joshing you, I wouldn't try to cancel a Matt G. show (even if he's cut most all connections to it).
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« Reply #59 on: 09-23-2003 05:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Yeah, wasn't he supposed to die six months after "Homer the Heretic"? So, why was he still alive in "Lisa's Wedding" and "Bart to the Future"? Are we supposed to believe that this is some sort of magic Homer? Gee, I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.
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« Reply #60 on: 09-23-2003 17:05 »

Getting back to Gil, I just really hate the character.  I know he's supposed to have been a sort of substitute for Lionel Hutz, but what a poor substitute!  He's just plain annoying to the point of being so irritating that I want to reach into the TV screen and strangle him.  It's good to see that he barely appeared in the more recent episodes.  Even though I don't give a sh*t about the recent episodes.
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« Reply #61 on: 09-23-2003 17:20 »

This is probably an unpopular position but I think that season 14 showed signs of improvement.
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« Reply #62 on: 09-24-2003 00:13 »

My comment about Mr. Burns was sarcastic for anyone who hasn't caught on....

Gil was actually introduced in "Realty Bites", which featured Hutz.  They tinkered with using him as the Simpsons' lawyer later, but he only appeared in two episodes as a lawyer anyway(he doesn't even speak the second time) (and only one episode since then has featured him) so they must have abondoned the idea.  And yes, no one can replace Hutz, but that doesn't mean they can't try to find someone who is still funny on their own.  I enjoyed Gil the lawyer, personally.  Just because I liked Phil Hartman's Clinton, doesn't mean I didn't like Darrel Hammond's as well.

Leelaholic: I agree.  Personally, my standpoint is that seasons 10-12 just plain suck ass (and season 9 isn't that much better).  13 on the other hand was a HUGE improvement and enjoyable nearly week to week.  Season 14 started off very badly, but got much better near the end.  Dare I say "Moe Baby Blues" was one of the best episodes ever (top 50 for sure, anyway), and "Bart of War", "Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington" and "Three Gays of the Condo" were pretty much classic era quality was well.
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« Reply #63 on: 09-24-2003 16:08 »

Did it get okay at the end?  I quit watching it after that horrible episode where Homer sues the church in Springfield and wins it in a lawsuit.
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« Reply #64 on: 09-24-2003 16:29 »

I think the episode that made me stop watching was when Homer, once again, gets a ranch in some contest and Lisa falls in love with the ranchhand. That has to be one of the weakest episode, right up there with the NSync one.

Upon reflection, season 9 wasn't horrible, but the cracks were starting to show. Season 10 was pretty weak, aside from a few episodes. Aside from "Moe Baby Blues" and "Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington," I haven't seen anything in a few years that matches up to old-school Simpsons.

 
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Originally posted by Evil Fox Exec:
Getting back to Gil, I just really hate the character.  I know he's supposed to have been a sort of substitute for Lionel Hutz, but what a poor substitute!  He's just plain annoying to the point of being so irritating that I want to reach into the TV screen and strangle him.  It's good to see that he barely appeared in the more recent episodes.  Even though I don't give a sh*t about the recent episodes.

Gil: "You want me to do a dance for ya? But we're on the phone! You couldn't possibly....okay, okay, I'm-a dancin!"
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« Reply #65 on: 09-24-2003 16:52 »
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I think the first time I really hated an episode was the one where Maude dies, can't remember the name. Everything up until then had been at least watchable, but God it was awful. Any further episodes in that story arc were equally horrible.

As for season 14, there were some OK eps, but some of the very worst (Strummer Vacation and Pray Anything). Season 15 could go either way.

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« Reply #66 on: 09-24-2003 17:23 »

 
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Originally posted by DoTheBartman:
Dare I say "Moe Baby Blues" was one of the best episodes ever (top 50 for sure, anyway), and "Bart of War", "Mr. Spritz Goes to Washington" and "Three Gays of the Condo" were pretty much classic era quality was well.

I agree with ALL of that. I remember how surprised I was at the quality when season 13 came out. Now we have classics like "Bart vs. Lisa vs. the third grade", "The frying game", "I am fuious yellow", etc. I guess Matt just has more time for The Simpsons now that Futurama is over.
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« Reply #67 on: 09-24-2003 18:01 »

season  10,11 and 12 were still great
perhaps there was occasional detoriation starting from 9 that increased over the next few seasons
i think 13 and 14 has been the worst, but the u.k has'nt caught up yet so there still some episodes left so maybe i'll see some improvment.
but i cant belive someone can think 11 and 12 suck
thats just plain narrow mindedness.

one of my favourite qoutes ever comes from the christmas episode in season 11.

homer lisa and marge have just thrown the funzo dolls on the tire fire.
and
gary coleman comes along and argues
"dont you think its possible an evil doll can make people happy.
Lisa: Are you saying the ends justifies the means
Colemam: gee thats a pretty glib remark.
Bart: hey man dont talk to my sister that way
lisa: no bart he's right, i did oversimplify.
Homer: perhaps but lets not get bogged down in semantics.

the only things from season 12 that really makes me angry is that they made sideshow bob evil again.
in brother from another series he is released and has learnt his lesson, and chief wiggum wrongly arrests him at the end of the episode. but then he apperas again and tries to hypnotise bart into killing krusty.
so that was wrong but its still good damn all of you
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« Reply #68 on: 09-24-2003 18:25 »

For "The Simpsons," it's gotten to the point that I can only remember maybe 3 or 4 episodes per season. Ugh.
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« Reply #69 on: 09-24-2003 20:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I agree, kill 'em all, the show needs to die!

u should die bastard!!!!  up yours

RIP futurama
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« Reply #70 on: 09-24-2003 20:33 »

ur all bastards
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« Reply #71 on: 09-24-2003 21:54 »

And you're not here anymore.
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« Reply #72 on: 09-25-2003 01:18 »

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« Reply #73 on: 09-25-2003 06:47 »

 
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ur all bastards

Oh, sorry. I apologize for giving out my honest opinion about a subject without making false assumptions, needlessly offending anyone or coming across as a complete jackass. Perhaps you would like me to give you lessons on how to do this, as you seem a tad uneducated on the subject of general human interaction?   roll eyes
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« Reply #74 on: 09-25-2003 07:18 »

Milhouse... the most annoying character of the bunch (and from day one!)

Was great when he got 'blended' in that one Halloween Special segment (when Skinner was going to eat Bart's shorts -- LMAO!)
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« Reply #75 on: 09-25-2003 08:59 »
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Why Lisa Simpson, Shes smart, witty, independent cute girt who Focuses on her Goals, beliefs and shers a member of MENSA, Why Her?
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« Reply #76 on: 09-25-2003 10:25 »

Why do some people hate Milhouse? I mean, he's lame, but he's supposed to be.

"I am not a nerd! Nerds are smart."
"Remember that time your dog ate my goldfish and then you told me i didn't have any goldfish.  But why did I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

Also, I got nothing against Lisa.
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« Reply #77 on: 09-25-2003 16:59 »

 
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Why Lisa Simpson, Shes smart, witty, independent cute girt who Focuses on her Goals, beliefs and shers a member of MENSA, Why Her?

She's a whiny PC Person who's destroyed mankind several time's. And she smell's.

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« Reply #78 on: 09-25-2003 17:12 »

 
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LMAO!

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« Reply #79 on: 09-25-2003 23:34 »

 
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 She's a whiny PC Person who's destroyed mankind several time's. And she smell's.


I'd agree...if this was fucking seasons 9-12.  But not only is the character you describe not present in the first 8 seasons, she's not even present now (aside from Pray Anything, but nobody, hopefully, cared about that tripe).  In the normal seasons, Lisa is a wonderful character; an empathetical, world wary and caring child with both adult and childlike qualities. 

Just forget seasons 9-12 ever exsisted, and you will be at peace.

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