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nagrub

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« Reply #80 on: 01-18-2004 16:54 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2004 16:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Ew, live action movies baised on anime!?

well. 'ich the killer' although i hav'nt seen is meant to be one of the most violent films of all time, (it made people physically vomit in japanese cinemas) was based on a manga, an anime series was recently released on it actually. apparently covering his teenage years.
Crying freeman, although i once again hav'nt seen it is i believe mangas first live action film, probably based on an anime.
Not actually based on anime but , Avalon. made by the same guy who did ghost in the shell is live action. Its about a computer game alternate world, a bit like the matrix. He filmed it in polish 'because he thought thats how it should be filmed' and why not!?
Aaaaaand i believe there is a dbz live action film, floating around japan...somwhere.

oh and by the way, i'm dancing.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #81 on: 01-18-2004 18:38 »

DO NOT REMIND ME OF THE EVAmerica MOVIE.

That is all.
David A

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« Reply #82 on: 01-18-2004 23:14 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2004 23:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Ew, live action movies baised on anime!?

Well, I don't know about movies, but I can think of a few live-action TV series that were inspired by anime.

Firefly was basically just a bastardized live-action version of Outlaw Star; and Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
Well, I probably shouldn't say which anime series that was based on.  I don't wanna get lynched by all the Buffy fans.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #83 on: 01-18-2004 23:42 »

Buffy was based on an anime? Huh, that's weird. I've never seen the show, but anime origins usually don't equal popularity. (Besides "The Ring." )
evan

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« Reply #84 on: 01-19-2004 01:44 »

"Buffy" was based on a movie with Kristy Swanson. I don't know the anime connection.

Actually, now that I've read some more on the Live-Action Evangelion movie, I still have doubts, but they're not as strong. From what I read, they won't plan on shooting the whole series, just one or two story arcs. To leave room for sequels. And WETA's done good stuff with LotR, so the effects might be good. The only problem I have right now is with child actors. I can not imagine any kid who could pull of the three major roles.

But this is all hypothetical. If they started pre-production today, I'm sure it wouldn't be filmed until 2006-7. If it ever gets made, that is.
David A

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« Reply #85 on: 01-19-2004 01:59 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
"Buffy" was based on a movie with Kristy Swanson. I don't know the anime connection.

The Buffy TV series has very little to do with the movie of the same name; which is a shame, because I really like that movie.

Many of the storylines on Buffy were lifted from a certain well known shoujo anime series which shall remain unnamed.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #86 on: 01-19-2004 02:20 »

My last Eva comment floated away unnoticed.  tongue
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« Reply #87 on: 01-19-2004 02:29 »

Get used to it, Missy. It happens to me too.
evan

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« Reply #88 on: 01-19-2004 03:14 »

To make her feel better...

 
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Originally posted by luvnpeese:
In Japan, didn't some boy kill his mom because of Evangelion? I read an article about it.

Yes, I think I heard about this. However, from what I've heard, his case that "Evangelion made me do it" was pretty weak to begin with. Like he completely misunderstood the whole point of the series. Second of all, the killing happened like 8 years after Evangelion was on the air, so it's not like Evangelion's influence was right-away or anything...  tongue
winna

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« Reply #89 on: 01-19-2004 04:10 »

Mmmmmm, bloody eye...

I don't know what made me post that  roll eyes
Nurdbot

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« Reply #90 on: 01-19-2004 05:17 »

Bebop? I can't see.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #91 on: 01-19-2004 06:16 »

@David A
That's really starting to annoy me. I'm trying to think of the anime you mean but I keep hitting brick walls (hold on, no they are concrete). Come just put it in a spoiler. Screw the Buffy fans, they have their own thread to complain about us.
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« Reply #92 on: 01-19-2004 07:19 »

*Takes random stab at David A answer*
Either Blood: The last Vampire or Inayusha. Coz of all that demon stuff? Meh, I didn't watch either anime or Buffy anyway.  tongue
nagrub

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« Reply #93 on: 01-19-2004 10:47 »

bood was made aftre buffy started, surely. its good! anyway, its an anime chichť, school girl fights beasties in spare time and saves the wor;d frequently.
David A

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« Reply #94 on: 01-19-2004 11:16 »

Okay, I'll put it in spoilers.  If you're a fan of Buffy, you may never be able to look at the show the same way again after reading this.

Don't say that I didn't warn you.


Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
luvnpeese

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« Reply #95 on: 01-19-2004 12:01 »

[/Zoidberg] Now that's humorous! [/Zoidberg]

Did I type that right?
wu_konguk

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« Reply #96 on: 01-19-2004 14:16 »

My god that's brilliant :laugh:

on that note I must now say
Hail Illapalzzo

Just watch the first DVD of Excel Saga and it was great. Truely insane and truely wonderful. I will have o watch it again with Vid note to get all the reference.

I also wonder if there is a reason why Illapazzpo looks so much like Kagato.

Well I'll give a full review once I have seen the whole lot.

"Excellent Nabashin. You are still a ninja commando  from hell."
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #97 on: 01-19-2004 14:23 »
« Last Edit on: 01-24-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by luvnpeese:
Buffy was based on an anime?

Before buffy, before the magic knights, before sailor moon, there was only one:


In which the now legandary Hisakawa Aya developed a benchmark standard for the hot chick with a sword genre.  She would later go on to do a superstring of characters who have Osaka accents.  i.e. Tarta, kerberous,
it-chan.  Still, DHY was a stand-out role for her, also produced some pretty catchy J-pop...If your into that kind of thing. [/nonchalant]

Will somebody PLEAAAASE translate these mangas and send them over to the states?  Gaku Miyao is pretty cool.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #98 on: 01-19-2004 16:09 »

Yohko looks hot, I'd watch it for sure.
Just Chris

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« Reply #99 on: 01-19-2004 19:32 »

Go Planetes!

????????


I haven't seen a sci-fi anime as modest, yet genuinely good as this one. Its setting is the year 2075, when mankind has settled on the moon and there's a whole lot more space debris floating around. The anime Planetes and the manga center around the debris-cleaning crew. Now the premise may seem mundane, but it's really about regular people with regular lives, only in space. No flashy dogfights or mecha battles to be seen here. Tanabe is the newcomer to this job, and she has to deal with lots of issues out in space.

Now be warned: the anime (and especially Tanabe) tries to take morals into high ground, and sometimes it becomes cheesy. Tanabe's not ignorant though, just naive. The manga's a bit darker and focuses more on the worker, Hachimaki, who struggles with the same dead-end job picking up space trash in hopes of owning his private spacecraft. Planetes is good for its character information and for reasserting that socialism can extend into space. I suggest you give it a look.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #100 on: 01-24-2004 07:50 »

I'm not very keen on anime in it's pure form, but I like some of it's influence in popular culture.
nagrub

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« Reply #101 on: 01-24-2004 13:49 »

... what exactly does that mean Otis? Chris, that pic reminded me of wings of honamease. i bloody love that film, but i've lost it, yeah, i bloody lost it.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #102 on: 01-24-2004 16:02 »

I saw a bit of that, but Sci-Fi in the UK show anime at mind boggling times, 2-5 AM is typical for them.
Just Chris

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« Reply #103 on: 01-24-2004 16:06 »

It's kind of like Hornymayonnaise, but Planetes puts you in space from the beginning.
 www.planet-es.net

I don't know how many of you watch fansubs, but this is the only way to get it right now. It's as easy as looking up "Bittorrent (anime title)" in Google.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #104 on: 01-24-2004 16:17 »

 
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Originally posted by nagrub:
... what exactly does that mean Otis?

It's pretty self explanatory, I thought. The way anime has inspired more popular, more mainstream films and video games, and to a lesser extent in mainstream terms, some comics too. I'm not a huge fan of proper anime movies, but I like the artistic visual concepts, and styles, which have inspired other elements of popular culture.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #105 on: 01-24-2004 16:23 »

I get kinda sick of that too. I'd pay for a little bit of British influence in thing these days but sadly, we're not cool anymore. We need to show the world Sharpe.
green-gesus

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« Reply #106 on: 01-26-2004 06:08 »

---I donít plan on checking if this has been covered---
These are thing I dislike about anime, admittedly, these do not apear in the ones of better quality that do not apear often in US statewide
1.Most televised/mainstream anime state wide have cheesy plots. They bounce from the idioticly ridiculous, blunderingly melodromatic, to the boringly predictable. Lets take Innuyasha as a review, because Iím sure most have seen it on CN. Hereís a plot totally driven by how many new monsters are thrown into an episode. It was like watching Captain Kirk fight a Gorgon, You could ask, with no possible suspense, Is the main character going to die? Not to sound too ranting, I really canít see people enjoying the humor on such shows for the sake of the jokes, nor the suspenseful situation/plot developments with not knowing the outcome of a story. Ignoring the retread irony(?) of polarized characters falling in love, what interest could be found in these one sided bubblegum toons?
2.Surprise, rage, jerking fear, are all shown by the characters by vibrating facial lines around coupled with grunts, oo's, ah's. Cheap techiques, Like they couldnít imagine a more natural way to let us know what the characterís are feeling. Futurama didnít seem to have this problem, right? Wait, they do, They could just add more monologues! Serious offenders in this area are trigun, inuyasha, Dragon Ball, every american made anime style cartoon.

Thatís all I can think of now, if people respond about this Iíll [expand on these]* later, no guaranteeís Iíll remember this posts original intent.

*expatiate is a word
Nurdbot

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« Reply #107 on: 01-26-2004 15:37 »

Interesting point there. Retread?
wu_konguk

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« Reply #108 on: 01-26-2004 16:07 »

I think the mian problem here is that you should judge anime as whole. Anime incompasses alot of different sytles of shows. It is like putting all Sci fi under the same banner, there are some shows that some people will like and not others.
Also you have the cultural diffenences in presentation of things such as emotions. These faces and lines are just an extension from the manga's that most of the shows are derived from.

I do think, however, that you hit the problem on the nose with your opening point. These things appear more in mainstream anime because that's what the powers that be believe we want to watch. For good anime you often have to look outside of the mainstream, not always mind you after all Bebop seems pretty popular.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #109 on: 01-28-2004 10:58 »

 
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Originally posted by nagrub:
  well. 'ich the killer' although i hav'nt seen is meant to be one of the most violent films of all time, (it made people physically vomit in japanese cinemas) was based on a manga, an anime series was recently released on it actually. apparently covering his teenage years.
Crying freeman, although i once again hav'nt seen it is i believe mangas first live action film, probably based on an anime.
Not actually based on anime but , Avalon. made by the same guy who did ghost in the shell is live action. Its about a computer game alternate world, a bit like the matrix. He filmed it in polish 'because he thought thats how it should be filmed' and why not!?
Aaaaaand i believe there is a dbz live action film, floating around japan...somwhere..

Don't waste your money on Ichi the Killer. It sucks horribly. The story makes no sense, the acting sucks, the music is terrbile.

Just Chris

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« Reply #110 on: 02-02-2004 20:21 »

If you want to look outside the mainstream and have a broadband connection, get Bittorrent. I'd like to post a site that has torrent links to tons of fansubs, but I'm afraid that's like posting links to Futurama episode downloads.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #111 on: 02-03-2004 01:11 »

How do you work the damn thing?
Just Chris

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« Reply #112 on: 02-05-2004 22:10 »
« Last Edit on: 02-05-2004 22:10 »

Here's a Bittorrent FAQ.

Experimental client - more recommended. It lets you cap upload speeds.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #113 on: 02-10-2004 01:21 »

W00t. Excel Saga is on at 5:30 AM UK Sci-Fi!

I just watched the first episode, I loved the whackiness but I need to know the names of the characters and the pop culture references and what not.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #114 on: 02-11-2004 02:26 »

BUMP!

Just because you took forever, give me list of references from the 2nd episodes.
evan

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« Reply #115 on: 02-18-2004 01:19 »

*BUMP*

So I'm sitting here, watching the Big O for the second time, and I'm curious. Is it worthwhile to watch the show all the way through? I've only seen the first 13 episodes on DVD, and I wasn't much too impressed. Does the show get better on in the second season?

Yeah, and I'm also still on the fence for this "Witch Hunter Robin" show. (so I get anime via Adult Swim, screw you!) It's alright, but it reminds me way too much of Hellsing. That, and every character has. to. talk. very. slowly. Like there's more drama to your character if you're introverted. So, once again, anyone know any buzz about WH:R?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #116 on: 02-18-2004 01:26 »

God, how much does the boxed DVD set of Excel Saga cost?
wu_konguk

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« Reply #117 on: 02-18-2004 05:32 »

Nurdy they have not released the final DVD in England yet so not box set yet. Each in indervidual disc is about £17.

I just wat ADV to get a move on and release teh last one.

Oh and it would be best to look for a site with all the pop references. Since there is a huge amount per episode.
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« Reply #118 on: 02-18-2004 10:03 »

17£? for seven episodes? I like anime, but bugger that, I'm camping for the Boxset.
David A

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« Reply #119 on: 02-18-2004 13:52 »
« Last Edit on: 02-20-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
*BUMP*

So I'm sitting here, watching the Big O for the second time, and I'm curious. Is it worthwhile to watch the show all the way through? I've only seen the first 13 episodes on DVD, and I wasn't much too impressed. Does the show get better on in the second season?

Meh.  I'm tired of trying to sell you on The Big O, evan.  Watch it or don't.  You've already heard my opinions.

 
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Yeah, and I'm also still on the fence for this "Witch Hunter Robin" show. (so I get anime via Adult Swim, screw you!) It's alright, but it reminds me way too much of Hellsing. That, and every character has. to. talk. very. slowly. Like there's more drama to your character if you're introverted. So, once again, anyone know any buzz about WH:R?

All I know about it is what I've seen in the first two episodes that Cartoon Network has shown.  It looks pretty good so far.  The "good guys" seem to actually be good guys, which I like.

Oh, and there's nothing wrong with getting your anime from CN.  It's the best source of free anime that there is.  (Unless you count my friend who works at Blockbuster.)

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
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